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Old 04-23-2012, 01:14 PM
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DIY oil change is PITA on C63

Did my oil change for the first time last night. I didn't have a mityvac and prefer the old fashion drain from the ground.

I think it took me like 2 hrs lol.

I had to jack the car up. remove all the underpanels because I wasn't sure which one to remove. After that I had to locate the oil drain on the pan and oil cooler.

I ended up jacking the car up on both sides because the drain plug is facing the driver side while the oil cooler drain is on the passenger side!

This is the first car that changing the oil seems like a PITA. The design of the underbody panels did not acct for quick release like other cars. Then again I only done oil changes on Japanese cars.

Next oil change I will probably take it to my local Euro shop that runs all day special of $100 oil change mobile one 0-40w.

My two hr is worth more then the $30 I save doing this oil change, but not enough to pay the dealer $300 for it. lol
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The Mityvac way is a lot easier.
1) I just start the car and warm it up for about 5 mins and then shut off the engine.
2) Pull the dipstick out
3) Insert the Mityvac extractor tube down the dipstick until it hits the bottom.
4) Pump 10 times and wait till it's done.
5) Keep pumping till you get most of it out.
6) Pour in 8.5-9 quarts of oil.
7) Change out filter

You're done. Takes me about 30 mins because I'm usually surfing the web while I wait or talking on the phone.
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Good job on the oil change! At least you can say you did it =O)

The evac system is so much easier. I use a Motive product. Took me no more then 1/2 an hour.

BTW
Use 5W40 oil.
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yea I might have to purchase a Mityvac.

I don't think they sell 5-40w mobil one down here.

My euro shop told me they use 0-40w and I believe the dealership told me the same thing.

They quoted me something $225 for Service A, but then said to get mobil one they will add another $70 so $295. So I just decided to take it home and do it.
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Originally Posted by linjy2
yea I might have to purchase a Mityvac.

I don't think they sell 5-40w mobil one down here.

My euro shop told me they use 0-40w and I believe the dealership told me the same thing.

They quoted me something $225 for Service A, but then said to get mobil one they will add another $70 so $295. So I just decided to take it home and do it.
WTF....was this at the dealer? They are SUPPOSED to give your mobil 1 standard! thats the OEM oil for MBs!
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WTF....was this at the dealer? They are SUPPOSED to give your mobil 1 standard! thats the OEM oil for MBs!
They told me standard is Valvoline. and to upgrade to mobile one was another $70. I told them I will think about it and walked out.
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The sticker on the engine compartment says Mobil 1...
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Originally Posted by linjy2
They told me standard is Valvoline. and to upgrade to mobile one was another $70. I told them I will think about it and walked out.
seems like they belong in here

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...stay-away.html

ALL mb cars recommend mobil 1
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The Mobil 1 sticker is there because Exxon-Mobil paid them to put the sticker there. There are dozens of synthetic oils that are certified by MB to meet the requirements of these engines, including Valvoline, Total, Quaker State, etc.

The dealership does not have to use Mobil 1 if it doesn't want to.
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Lol glad you got it done.
The next DIY oil changes will be easier since you know were everything is.
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This says M156 is 0W-40 and 5W-40 only

229.5
229.51

I like the 229.5 because the low SPAsh (229.51) is a reduction in wear inhibitors.

The AMG Academy, the guys from Germany introducing the C63BS, and the SL65BS uses Mobil1 0W-40.

Drain is recommended, do a search in the PL.
Yes, it is a bit of a PITA with the panels.
I skip the oil cooler.
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Really? It's not difficult and if you run GOOD oil it's not like you do that often. We knocked my 09 out in under 30 mins for first time. **** most race bikes harder. But best is getting Motul sponsorship so I get to run Motul 300v 5/40 free. really guys shouldn't take more than an hour.
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You should NOT be using a mityvac to do oil changes. You risk gunk and deposits forming over time, which obviously isn't good for the engine; especially an engine like ours. It may be a PITA, but old-school is the way to go.

For a $200+ A service, you're better off getting a higher-end oil (i.e. Motul, Redline, etc.) and doing it yourself. You get the satisfaction of doing the job yourself and you save about half of what you would normally pay.

The only time you should be taking your car to the dealership for anything, is to get a problem fixed under warranty. Otherwise you're flushing money down the drain with their "service." I got my C63 with about 2.5 years of warranty (it's been a little over a year now) left on it, and I have never taken it back to the dealership for maintenance.

Just my 0.02.
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New piece of information.

If you change your oil and your cam adjusters star causing the cams to make a large tapped noise for a couple secondsduring start, then the valve that allows the oil to drain from the filter housing did not seat properly when replacing the oil filter.

Had this happen on the previous change. I had tried reseating the filter a couple times to ensure it would come up with the cap so oil would not spill out the top. So, I messed with it.

This last change I did not. The noise went away. Oil analysis shows no detrimental wear. Lucky.
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here in australia in sydney & brisbane MB australia own what they call there flagship dealerships i belive melbourne is the same. sydney & brisbane only use fuchs oil for engine oil changes. i contaced fuchs head office to enq. where to buy some & was told they only supply mb dealers in bulk & when i asked they could not supply any specs. on that product which is a pain as i am not a fan of changing brands of oil & fuchs has been used since new in my engine
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Originally Posted by aussie e55
here in australia in sydney & brisbane MB australia own what they call there flagship dealerships i belive melbourne is the same. sydney & brisbane only use fuchs oil for engine oil changes. i contaced fuchs head office to enq. where to buy some & was told they only supply mb dealers in bulk & when i asked they could not supply any specs. on that product which is a pain as i am not a fan of changing brands of oil & fuchs has been used since new in my engine
Interesting....

Where I get my car done I use either motul or Mobil
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Question about oil cooler and mityvac. Will the vac suck out oil from cooler too? Or should it be drained separately?
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hi mr747
do u use a mb dealer or a indi workshop i understand the mb dealer on the kingsway at south melb. is owned by mb aust. it would b intresting to know brand oil they use.
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Originally Posted by aussie e55
hi mr747
do u use a mb dealer or a indi workshop i understand the mb dealer on the kingsway at south melb. is owned by mb aust. it would b intresting to know brand oil they use.

I use both and I'm pretty sure mb kings way use Mobil

I have 2 India shops ones uses mobile other uses motul
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Question about oil cooler and mityvac. Will the vac suck out oil from cooler too? Or should it be drained separately?
The mityvac method only sucks out the oil from the engine. The cooler will need to be drained separately.

FYI - Most dealerships use the extraction method when you take your car in for service.
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The mityvac method only sucks out the oil from the engine. The cooler will need to be drained separately.

FYI - Most dealerships use the extraction method when you take your car in for service.
So you're saying most dealerships don't drain? Just extraction? What about oil cooler?
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I've done oil changes on my C63 multiple times and spend over $100 on oil and filter.

I accidentally stripped my drain plug and took it to the dealer for a new plug and the subsequent oil change... and the (FULL) oil change with new filter cost me $50...

That has literally been the only time I was glad I stripped any bolt.
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If you guys are running 0w-40 Mobil 1, go to walmart and get the jugs. They are like $22.57 per 5 quart jug.
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I use the air compressor version of the Mityvac. Hook it up the compressor and let it suck. Doesn't get all of the oil out, but I'm not too concerned since my oil changes are due by time instead of mileage. Bought the car 7/09 and currently at 9428 mi.
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
If you guys are running 0w-40 Mobil 1, go to walmart and get the jugs. They are like $22.57 per 5 quart jug.
Be a bit cautious with that particular oil. Even though it says 0w40, it may be the diesel version. As far as I know, Wal-Mart doesn't carry the correct version for our engines.

Also, the recommended oil is now 5w40 for our engines.


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