So...Why used C63?
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So...Why used C63?
This is a question for people who bought C63 used and using C63 as only car. I see used C63 goes for around 45k - 65k depending on model years, but with that price range you can buy other luxury performance cars like:
M5, E63, S63, S6, S8...
These cars were more expensive when it was new, but they depreciate much faster and they are in the pretty similar price territory with used C63...So, why did you guys went for C63 instead of other cars I listed? Other cars I listed have same 4 doors, much better interior and used better materials than C63 and performance is great also.
M5, E63, S63, S6, S8...
These cars were more expensive when it was new, but they depreciate much faster and they are in the pretty similar price territory with used C63...So, why did you guys went for C63 instead of other cars I listed? Other cars I listed have same 4 doors, much better interior and used better materials than C63 and performance is great also.
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although its not my only car bu it is my dd, i bought a used 2011. I test drove an m3, s5, gran turismo, m5, cts V, and nothing even comes remotely close to the fun of the c63. it was a no brainer
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No offense but this is kind of a dumb question. I personally prefer a C63 to an E63 despite it being slower in a straight line, lacking features in comparison, etc. E is just too big. The other cars you mentioned also might be older, with more miles, etc. An 09 C63 with 20k may go for 45k....what's the comparable S63 for example?
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Well, S63 will be higher than 45k, but you can get very good deal on S63 with decent low miles for 55-60k. Used C63 10-11 are around that price range. I'm just quoting prices from cars.com, autotrader etc.
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I wanted a smaller car than my Acura TL, so that ruled out the E63. When you travel to a city like SF and have a nice car, it's easier to have something compact and easy to park. And I do drive the C63 as my main car now. I've put on over 6k miles in 2 months.
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What is the car going to be used for is a big consideration for a daily.
Regardless of price, I doubt someone shopping for an S63 is interested in a C63 or vice versa.
You can go through the pros and cons of all the cars you’ve mentioned and you will still come back to the first question, what is it going to be used for.
A C63 as a daily driver may not be as luxurious as similar priced used competition but it will still be near the top of the list for the performance oriented buyer for one simple reason (drive one and find out).
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Regardless of price, I doubt someone shopping for an S63 is interested in a C63 or vice versa.
You can go through the pros and cons of all the cars you’ve mentioned and you will still come back to the first question, what is it going to be used for.
A C63 as a daily driver may not be as luxurious as similar priced used competition but it will still be near the top of the list for the performance oriented buyer for one simple reason (drive one and find out).
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Other things to consider are driving experience, maintenance, etc. Audis have a reputation of higher maintenance costs because of where they put things. You may have to drop the engine to work on something, which you may not have to do in a MB or BMW.
Also, I realize that the M3 might be a better track car, but no one drives on a track everyday. I find the C63 to feel more visceral. I can't speak to the craftsmanship of BMW interiors since I've never owned one, but I am perfectly happy with my interior - features and quality.
Here are my personal reasons why I wanted a C63 compared to other cars in the same category:
--power
--practicality (compared to a 2-door or even a CLS with 2+2 seating)
--exterior length (just a few inches goes a long way in cities like SF)
--look (I think a C63 looks much more aggressive than an E63)
Also, I realize that the M3 might be a better track car, but no one drives on a track everyday. I find the C63 to feel more visceral. I can't speak to the craftsmanship of BMW interiors since I've never owned one, but I am perfectly happy with my interior - features and quality.
Here are my personal reasons why I wanted a C63 compared to other cars in the same category:
--power
--practicality (compared to a 2-door or even a CLS with 2+2 seating)
--exterior length (just a few inches goes a long way in cities like SF)
--look (I think a C63 looks much more aggressive than an E63)
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I have always been a fan of performance luxury 4 door sedans. I'm a sucker for vehicles that I can use for everyday purposes like driving the kid around town or going to the supermarket but at the same time it is a total monster when I want it to be.
For the longest time, my it car was the E39 .. absolutely adored that car. But when BMW updated to E60, it didnt appeal to me at all. Ironically enough, the W203 bodystyle never appealed to me but when Mercedes introduced the W204, I was instantly hooked.
The S63 and its bmw and audi comparables are a bit too big for my tastes. The e63 is very nice too and maybe I will look into that someday in the future. However, I feel the C63 is definitely able to satisfy both the family obligations and the "fun" wants very well... and at its price point, the value is very good!
For the longest time, my it car was the E39 .. absolutely adored that car. But when BMW updated to E60, it didnt appeal to me at all. Ironically enough, the W203 bodystyle never appealed to me but when Mercedes introduced the W204, I was instantly hooked.
The S63 and its bmw and audi comparables are a bit too big for my tastes. The e63 is very nice too and maybe I will look into that someday in the future. However, I feel the C63 is definitely able to satisfy both the family obligations and the "fun" wants very well... and at its price point, the value is very good!
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No offence lol, but the back seat of the C63 clearly sux. Even my little sister doesnt like the hard plastic feeling. And family car... LOL. I think a hyundai is even more comfortable than the back of my Car haha
I have always been a fan of performance luxury 4 door sedans. I'm a sucker for vehicles that I can use for everyday purposes like driving the kid around town or going to the supermarket but at the same time it is a total monster when I want it to be.
For the longest time, my it car was the E39 .. absolutely adored that car. But when BMW updated to E60, it didnt appeal to me at all. Ironically enough, the W203 bodystyle never appealed to me but when Mercedes introduced the W204, I was instantly hooked.
The S63 and its bmw and audi comparables are a bit too big for my tastes. The e63 is very nice too and maybe I will look into that someday in the future. However, I feel the C63 is definitely able to satisfy both the family obligations and the "fun" wants very well... and at its price point, the value is very good!
For the longest time, my it car was the E39 .. absolutely adored that car. But when BMW updated to E60, it didnt appeal to me at all. Ironically enough, the W203 bodystyle never appealed to me but when Mercedes introduced the W204, I was instantly hooked.
The S63 and its bmw and audi comparables are a bit too big for my tastes. The e63 is very nice too and maybe I will look into that someday in the future. However, I feel the C63 is definitely able to satisfy both the family obligations and the "fun" wants very well... and at its price point, the value is very good!
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When you guys say E63, M5, S6, S8 being too big of a car, are you guys talking about the handling in the corners? Since it wont be as nimble as smaller C63?
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I downgraded from a E63 to a C63 when the kids left home, the E was too big for just the 2 of us.
My next door neighbour did the opposite. He went from a C Class to a E350 because his 3 little boys grew into teenagers.
It was either amputate at the knees or a bigger car. Existing laws as they are meant a new car.
Plus the C feels a little better in the handling department but loses out on appointments.
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My next door neighbour did the opposite. He went from a C Class to a E350 because his 3 little boys grew into teenagers.
It was either amputate at the knees or a bigger car. Existing laws as they are meant a new car.
Plus the C feels a little better in the handling department but loses out on appointments.
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haha no offence taken. Sure the back seats might not be the most comfortable but it definitely is functional. I personally dont mind it at all. It fits 2 car seats in there easily and like I mentioned in my earlier post, I want a car that does the practical stuff and can do the fun stuff. Hyundai just doesnt cut it for me in the fun stuff section. Plus i'm a european car fan... for now at least
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I downgraded from a E63 to a C63 when the kids left home, the E was too big for just the 2 of us.
My next door neighbour did the opposite. He went from a C Class to a E350 because his 3 little boys grew into teenagers.
It was either amputate at the knees or a bigger car. Existing laws as they are meant a new car.
Plus the C feels a little better in the handling department but loses out on appointments.
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My next door neighbour did the opposite. He went from a C Class to a E350 because his 3 little boys grew into teenagers.
It was either amputate at the knees or a bigger car. Existing laws as they are meant a new car.
Plus the C feels a little better in the handling department but loses out on appointments.
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The loss of luxury wasn’t a big thing as the E was being sold no matter what. It sat in the garage for months on end without being driven and was only taking up space.
The ‘seat of the pants’ power difference wasn’t noticeable and wouldn’t have mattered if I had been cross shopping the two.
I had intended to buy an M3 for myself after buying the wife a 135i and while waiting to test one I walked across the road and also arranged to test a C63. I loved it and the rest is history.
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No offense but this is kind of a dumb question. I personally prefer a C63 to an E63 despite it being slower in a straight line, lacking features in comparison, etc. E is just too big. The other cars you mentioned also might be older, with more miles, etc. An 09 C63 with 20k may go for 45k....what's the comparable S63 for example?
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This. Although I'm not in a C63... yet, I feel that the OP is not making a realistic comparison. Yes, how and where the car is utilized would affect the decision, but for those looking for it as their DD/only car, the huge price range you listed does make a difference. People probably would not be cross shopping a 45k C63 with a 65k S63 (and even then, the S63 would probably be older with more miles). As asked in my quoted text, can you find a comparable 45k S63? For 65k, a used C63 would be nearly pristine. Also, you can probably find a really old used Ferrari in that range, but would you buy that?
As for why I said the s63 is too big.. this is just a personal preference. I'm not a very tall guy so when I took a S class on a test drive, it felt too large for me. Someone who is 6 feet plus may find it just perfect. Plus, I live in Markham... with the drivers we have on the roads, a smaller car might make the difference between a ding or near miss
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Well, you can take out S63 of the list because of the price difference since it's in more of the upper budget, but with $50k you can get good mileage CPO M5, E63, S6 or even S8. Most of you guys bought C63 for DD not track anyway, so why go for C63 when you can get same power plus more luxurious cars like M5, E63, S6 or S8 for DD?
I'm shopping around for my next car, and thought, hey, with the similar budget for CPO C63, I can get more expensive cars like the list I mentioned for DD. At the end, C63 is a cheapest MB model with AMG tweaks, so why not get E63 (or other) with better build quality with AMG tweaks instead with the same price?
I'm shopping around for my next car, and thought, hey, with the similar budget for CPO C63, I can get more expensive cars like the list I mentioned for DD. At the end, C63 is a cheapest MB model with AMG tweaks, so why not get E63 (or other) with better build quality with AMG tweaks instead with the same price?
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Well, you can take out S63 of the list because of the price difference since it's in more of the upper budget, but with $50k you can get good mileage CPO M5, E63, S6 or even S8. Most of you guys bought C63 for DD not track anyway, so why go for C63 when you can get same power plus more luxurious cars like M5, E63, S6 or S8 for DD?
I'm shopping around for my next car, and thought, hey, with the similar budget for CPO C63, I can get more expensive cars like the list I mentioned for DD. At the end, C63 is a cheapest MB model with AMG tweaks, so why not get E63 (or other) with better build quality with AMG tweaks instead with the same price?
I'm shopping around for my next car, and thought, hey, with the similar budget for CPO C63, I can get more expensive cars like the list I mentioned for DD. At the end, C63 is a cheapest MB model with AMG tweaks, so why not get E63 (or other) with better build quality with AMG tweaks instead with the same price?
S8 and S6 are slow in comparison, and really not the same ballpark. The M5 more than likely the same reasons as the E63.
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then your point makes no sense, the warranty isn't up yet or will possibly be a CPO car on the C63, you are absolutely screwed on the s63 which will probably cost more to fix on non engine parts.
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Well, you can take out S63 of the list because of the price difference since it's in more of the upper budget, but with $50k you can get good mileage CPO M5, E63, S6 or even S8. Most of you guys bought C63 for DD not track anyway, so why go for C63 when you can get same power plus more luxurious cars like M5, E63, S6 or S8 for DD?
I'm shopping around for my next car, and thought, hey, with the similar budget for CPO C63, I can get more expensive cars like the list I mentioned for DD. At the end, C63 is a cheapest MB model with AMG tweaks, so why not get E63 (or other) with better build quality with AMG tweaks instead with the same price?
I'm shopping around for my next car, and thought, hey, with the similar budget for CPO C63, I can get more expensive cars like the list I mentioned for DD. At the end, C63 is a cheapest MB model with AMG tweaks, so why not get E63 (or other) with better build quality with AMG tweaks instead with the same price?
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honestly, it doesn't matter why we got a C63. drive all the cars you think you might want, and then pick the one you like the best. here are the list of cars I drove:
E60 M5 (stick and SMG):
pros
-lots of room
-sweet engine
-infinite settings
cons
-reliability and maintenance
-wear on the interior on all examples seen was terrible!
-awkward gear box (SMG)
-trucklike shift linkage (Manual)
-NO TORQUE!
-too many settings
E9x M3 (M-DCT):
pros
-great chassis, engine, gearbox
-feels light and tossable
-trackday usage
cons
-bland interior
-less torque than C63
-EVERYONE HAS ONE! (ugh! I hate that!)
Audi S4 DSG:
pros:
-gearbox
-interior
-AWD
cons:
-lack of power
-too many settings! just give me one that works all the time
-nose heavy
Cayman 6MT
pros
-amazing chassis, engine, gearbox, brakes, etc
-great noises
feels like a race car
cons
-small inside
-ride quality, kind of choppy for a DD
-IMO looks kind of chicky on the exterior
-I never get to see the engine
E63 W211
pros
-TORQUE
-lots of room
-did I mention torque?!
-ride quality
-I love the look
-panoramic sunroof
cons
-air suspension (too soft and possible maintenance issues down the road)
-it's a big car
S5 DSG V8
pros:
-AWD
-interior
cons:
-numb, no feeling in the steering or chassis
-engine noises seem synthetic (am I a truck or a muscle car?)
-heavy
Now for what I ended up with....the C63
Pros
-Torque! everyone in the car giggled during both test drives
-set up out of the box, no stupid settings to fiddle with
-styling (wheels, brakes, diffuser...badass)
-seats
-TOOOOORQUE!
-low maintenance costs (well...depends how you are on tires)
-exhaust note
-chassis feels planted but not harsh
cons
-headbolts
-rattles (I have a few)
-gearbox is a little slow, would prefer a DSG or a 6 speed stick
-no LSD on mine (ESP kicks in all the time in the rain)
-possible cooling issues on the track
-it's not a stick so my wife can drive it...dangit!
Don't let anyone tell you what you should get. and obviously we are all biased on our opinions. ask yourself what you want to use it for. DD with only you in the car, track every weekend, long trips with 4 people in the car. also ask yourself what type of weather you will be driving in. always sunny San Diego, harsh winters up north, occasional ski trip to the mountains, etc. have fun driving those cars! I know I had fun
E60 M5 (stick and SMG):
pros
-lots of room
-sweet engine
-infinite settings
cons
-reliability and maintenance
-wear on the interior on all examples seen was terrible!
-awkward gear box (SMG)
-trucklike shift linkage (Manual)
-NO TORQUE!
-too many settings
E9x M3 (M-DCT):
pros
-great chassis, engine, gearbox
-feels light and tossable
-trackday usage
cons
-bland interior
-less torque than C63
-EVERYONE HAS ONE! (ugh! I hate that!)
Audi S4 DSG:
pros:
-gearbox
-interior
-AWD
cons:
-lack of power
-too many settings! just give me one that works all the time
-nose heavy
Cayman 6MT
pros
-amazing chassis, engine, gearbox, brakes, etc
-great noises
feels like a race car
cons
-small inside
-ride quality, kind of choppy for a DD
-IMO looks kind of chicky on the exterior
-I never get to see the engine
E63 W211
pros
-TORQUE
-lots of room
-did I mention torque?!
-ride quality
-I love the look
-panoramic sunroof
cons
-air suspension (too soft and possible maintenance issues down the road)
-it's a big car
S5 DSG V8
pros:
-AWD
-interior
cons:
-numb, no feeling in the steering or chassis
-engine noises seem synthetic (am I a truck or a muscle car?)
-heavy
Now for what I ended up with....the C63
Pros
-Torque! everyone in the car giggled during both test drives
-set up out of the box, no stupid settings to fiddle with
-styling (wheels, brakes, diffuser...badass)
-seats
-TOOOOORQUE!
-low maintenance costs (well...depends how you are on tires)
-exhaust note
-chassis feels planted but not harsh
cons
-headbolts
-rattles (I have a few)
-gearbox is a little slow, would prefer a DSG or a 6 speed stick
-no LSD on mine (ESP kicks in all the time in the rain)
-possible cooling issues on the track
-it's not a stick so my wife can drive it...dangit!
Don't let anyone tell you what you should get. and obviously we are all biased on our opinions. ask yourself what you want to use it for. DD with only you in the car, track every weekend, long trips with 4 people in the car. also ask yourself what type of weather you will be driving in. always sunny San Diego, harsh winters up north, occasional ski trip to the mountains, etc. have fun driving those cars! I know I had fun