Paddle shift issue?
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2010 C63 P31 AMG
Paddle shift issue?
I was wondering if anyone has had any issue with our paddle shifter? I can't make a proper shift from 1st to 2nd under m mode in my 2010. It will not shift and just bounces off rev limiter. One I release throttle and upshift it will get the 2nd but then run into same issue with 3rd. No issue to 4th and on. No issue on sport mode as I think it starts in 2nd anyway. ESP is on and no there is no wheel spin. It feels like signal from paddle not as quick as I'd hoped. If I don't use the paddle it works at times. Let me if any of you have experienced this and any fixes? Much appreciated.
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It's known that its not going to be as quick to respond as an SMG or a dual clutch box. You have to shift up early to not bounce off the limiter. A tune helps the responsiveness of the paddles. Whether or not the shifts are faster, I'm not sure. But the time from when I pull the paddle to when the car shifts is much shorter, especially downshifts where with a stock tune I feel like the car ignores my downshift requests half the time.
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It's known that its not going to be as quick to respond as an SMG or a dual clutch box. You have to shift up early to not bounce off the limiter. A tune helps the responsiveness of the paddles. Whether or not the shifts are faster, I'm not sure. But the time from when I pull the paddle to when the car shifts is much shorter, especially downshifts where with a stock tune I feel like the car ignores my downshift requests half the time.
which tune do you have?
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It's known that its not going to be as quick to respond as an SMG or a dual clutch box. You have to shift up early to not bounce off the limiter. A tune helps the responsiveness of the paddles. Whether or not the shifts are faster, I'm not sure. But the time from when I pull the paddle to when the car shifts is much shorter, especially downshifts where with a stock tune I feel like the car ignores my downshift requests half the time.
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I have a similar "problem" with WOT shifts in M. I actually found that shifting with the gear shifter seems faster at times, which kinda sucks, since I'd prefer to have both hands on the wheel at times 
I find that letting off the gas pedal just a touch (just above kickdown position) before shifting in M mode helps with shifts. I took my car out for a good hour drive yesterday and must have bounced off the rev limiter 4-5 times, but I'm outta sync with the car at the moment, she just came out of hibernation mode and so did I
I find that letting off the gas pedal just a touch (just above kickdown position) before shifting in M mode helps with shifts. I took my car out for a good hour drive yesterday and must have bounced off the rev limiter 4-5 times, but I'm outta sync with the car at the moment, she just came out of hibernation mode and so did I
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I have a similar "problem" with WOT shifts in M. I actually found that shifting with the gear shifter seems faster at times, which kinda sucks, since I'd prefer to have both hands on the wheel at times
I find that letting off the gas pedal just a touch (just above kickdown position) before shifting in M mode helps with shifts. I took my car out for a good hour drive yesterday and must have bounced off the rev limiter 4-5 times, but I'm outta sync with the car at the moment, she just came out of hibernation mode and so did I
I find that letting off the gas pedal just a touch (just above kickdown position) before shifting in M mode helps with shifts. I took my car out for a good hour drive yesterday and must have bounced off the rev limiter 4-5 times, but I'm outta sync with the car at the moment, she just came out of hibernation mode and so did I
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TBH our car's manual shifting response is pretty hopeless; when I first upgraded to my c63 from 335i I was totally shocked how bad the shifting response was compare to BMW. Took a while to adapt to this turtle response. My 335i didn't have dual clutch and a lot slower of course, but the handling and shifting is like night & day compare to the C63.
However, the sound and speed of our cars makes up for all those cons
However, the sound and speed of our cars makes up for all those cons
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TBH our car's manual shifting response is pretty hopeless; when I first upgraded to my c63 from 335i I was totally shocked how bad the shifting response was compare to BMW. Took a while to adapt to this turtle response. My 335i didn't have dual clutch and a lot slower of course, but the handling and shifting is like night & day compare to the C63.
However, the sound and speed of our cars makes up for all those cons
However, the sound and speed of our cars makes up for all those cons
But beside this I love everything else with the C63 :-)
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Of course 1st-2nd happens so fast that sometimes you'll hit the limiter anyways, especially if you have wheelspin.
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Anyone drag the c63? Do you guys just race in s mode or start in 2nd m mode?
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I have about 2,500 miles on my '13 C63 AMG coupe, and I am very disappointed with the paddle shifting in manual mode. Twice in the last week, I have gone past redline in heavy onramp acceleration because of a delayed response when using the paddle. The warning light seems to come on early, but perhaps it does that to take into account the delayed response. I have also had problems using the left paddle to downshift to the optimal gear; if I am applying my hand too high on the paddle, it does not work. I have not tried using the shift lever instead. It would disappoint me if that is the only solution, but that would be better than no solution at all.
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This ended being the ultimate solution for my original concerns....1-2nd gear...shift about 6.8k rpm and it should stick to 2nd without bouncing off the limiter.....gear shifter better but I hate the sideways upshift...would rather pull down vs slap the stick to the right....for me best launches were in sport...upshift to 2nd when car is still....floor it and your good thru the gears in sport....tranny still goes through first even if indicator says 2nd gear. No issues so far anymore for me.
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The transmission is the only negative for me with the C63. My M3 with DCT was flawless in its' shifts--up, down, rev matching, it did it all. Having said that, I am looking forward to having some fun in the C63.........
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On the track, I never use manual mode. Always sport +, and down shift only with paddle shifter.
Car up shifts only then going through gears, never hitting rev limiter.
Car up shifts only then going through gears, never hitting rev limiter.
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I have about 2,500 miles on my '13 C63 AMG coupe, and I am very disappointed with the paddle shifting in manual mode. Twice in the last week, I have gone past redline in heavy onramp acceleration because of a delayed response when using the paddle. The warning light seems to come on early, but perhaps it does that to take into account the delayed response. I have also had problems using the left paddle to downshift to the optimal gear; if I am applying my hand too high on the paddle, it does not work. I have not tried using the shift lever instead. It would disappoint me if that is the only solution, but that would be better than no solution at all.
This is what I ended up doing with the C63 I drove for about a day, I think I can live with it. Ah can't decide if I should pull the trigger a C63 coupe this winter or wait for the DCT C63...
