Keeping Your Cool!!
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C63 507 with BS Body; 2008 SLK 55
Seriously, ducting coolers, guiding airflows directionally can help, but the C63 needs bigger oil coolers, plain and simple. The 44O kit works great and is actually good value (for an AMG). It's a no brainer for anybody tracking their car.
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C63 amg Custom 67 Camaro GLK 350 4matic 2017 AMG GTS
Just having some fun.
Yes, the 440 kit I hear works brilliantly. I want one.
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Quick update. For those of you who think this will help you in summer heat, think again. I was just at NJMP this morning for a trackday on their Lightning course. My 44O kit has not yet been installed, but I thought I would make the drive and hope that early morning temps would be low enough for me to get a few sessions in. Well, by the time I got out on track, it was already 92F. I got 3 laps in (it's a short track) and the car went into limp mode at 275F. Tried to get back on it after cooling for a few turns, and hit limp mode in another half lap. I drove off the track, packed up my things, and drove home. So annoyed.
Anyway, this air guide works really well in the spring and fall, when the temps are at or below 80F or so. Also seems to be a benefit on long high-speed tracks, even up to about 90F. Once you get much above 90F though, forget about it, the air guide does practically nothing.
Anyway, this air guide works really well in the spring and fall, when the temps are at or below 80F or so. Also seems to be a benefit on long high-speed tracks, even up to about 90F. Once you get much above 90F though, forget about it, the air guide does practically nothing.
I quickly ran into limp mode problems if I was running the engine up to red line on every shift. I found that I could run a long time, even on a hot day, if I didn't let it rev as far and shifted early enough to keep revs under about 6,800. Not as much fun as 7,200 rpm shifts but it beats going home early.
BLKROKT, I look forward to hearing that your 440 kit is installed and you are back out tearing up the tracks again.
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It's not hard at all to make. Just takes some measuring and fitting. If you used a standard piece of plastic (like the kind used for the other air ducting on the car), you could easily do it start-to-finish in one afternoon.
Last edited by BLKROKT; Aug 9, 2016 at 01:13 AM.
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Hey I'm really sorry guys got two made and just aren't getting any good quality out of the mould. At this time don't feel comfortable with charging for something that isn't good. My suggestion is to get a pre made plate and do the cutting that way the measurements that are on thi thread are really great.
Sorry for the lack of communication on my part .
Sorry for the lack of communication on my part .
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That pretty closely matches my experience. I'm not seeing any value from the air guide on my 2012 cpe - I'm fine on the streets but a road course on a hot day will quickly drive up engine oil temp and force you into limp mode . . . unless you manage rpms carefully.
I quickly ran into limp mode problems if I was running the engine up to red line on every shift. I found that I could run a long time, even on a hot day, if I didn't let it rev as far and shifted early enough to keep revs under about 6,800. Not as much fun as 7,200 rpm shifts but it beats going home early.
BLKROKT, I look forward to hearing that your 440 kit is installed and you are back out tearing up the tracks again.
I quickly ran into limp mode problems if I was running the engine up to red line on every shift. I found that I could run a long time, even on a hot day, if I didn't let it rev as far and shifted early enough to keep revs under about 6,800. Not as much fun as 7,200 rpm shifts but it beats going home early.
BLKROKT, I look forward to hearing that your 440 kit is installed and you are back out tearing up the tracks again.
I have tried this also. Especially on slower more technical tracks, this works quite well, not as fun of course. But the 44O package is probably the right thing to get if you are planing to tack car more often.
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2014 C63 Sedan (SOLD), 2011 SLS Gullwing (SOLD), 2009 SLK55 (SOLD), 2015 C7 Z06 7MT, 2016 C450amg
Has anyone made one using ABS instead of the CF plate? Just curious as I dont really care what the finish looks like, just want the functionality.
https://www.amazon.com/ABS-Sheet-Thi...s%2Bsheet&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/ABS-Sheet-Thi...s%2Bsheet&th=1
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Has anyone made one using ABS instead of the CF plate? Just curious as I dont really care what the finish looks like, just want the functionality.
https://www.amazon.com/ABS-Sheet-Thi...s%2Bsheet&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/ABS-Sheet-Thi...s%2Bsheet&th=1
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I finally powered on my Solidworks computer for a long time. I am able to draw this up and have made. Someone can give me the dimensions i'll draw it up. Or i'll just mock one up on my car and draw it up.
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I just finished fabbing a blockout plate for a 2012 coupe. Finding carbon on short notice wasn't doable so I tried first using acrylic (plexiglas). I found some smoke-gray stuff that looked pretty good but proved to fragile and was really sensitive to stress cracking. Next attempt was using plywood (3/8" luan). It isn't sexy and probably won't last long. However it is cheap and really easy to fab with just a jigsaw. I'll put a couple coats of primer on it to get through the season, spray it with some black to hide it and then build a better one over the winter.
In anticipation of making another in the future, I traced a template and saved it as a pdf. In hopes of saving someone else a lot of time measuring and fitting, I've attached a copy. It's 4 pages, full size, something you can just tape together and trace onto your material. When you print, be sure to print 'full size' and not as 'fit to page'. There are inch markings across the top so you can confirm that the size is correct.
Note that this fits a 2012+ coupe, probably fits a 2012+ sedan, and definitely does NOT fit a PFL car.
In anticipation of making another in the future, I traced a template and saved it as a pdf. In hopes of saving someone else a lot of time measuring and fitting, I've attached a copy. It's 4 pages, full size, something you can just tape together and trace onto your material. When you print, be sure to print 'full size' and not as 'fit to page'. There are inch markings across the top so you can confirm that the size is correct.
Note that this fits a 2012+ coupe, probably fits a 2012+ sedan, and definitely does NOT fit a PFL car.
Using double-sided tape?
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I used 1.7mm carbon fiber plate. Perfect thickness. Definitely use a respirator and cut it outside, carbon fiber particulate is very bad to inhale.
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I'll make plate from sizes that you have shown before. They accurate?
Last edited by Emkovich; Feb 10, 2017 at 08:33 AM.
