Trade-in value Question on your C63
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Trade-in value Question on your C63
I'm curious if anyone has done a dealer trade in with their former C63 recently. I have a 2012 sedan (non development, non leather) which retailed for approx. $65k new. The dealer trade in values I've looked at are all over the map -- from $41k on edmunds to almost $50k on KBB. I'm curious if anyone has traded theirs in recently and the ballpark value they got for it.
Btw, I am aware that trading in a C63 on anything is borderline insane. I don't think you can have more fun on public roads in anything south of $100k than you can have in a C63. I'm just considering going with something a tad more practical, unfortunately. Thanks.
Btw, I am aware that trading in a C63 on anything is borderline insane. I don't think you can have more fun on public roads in anything south of $100k than you can have in a C63. I'm just considering going with something a tad more practical, unfortunately. Thanks.
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You are better off selling your car to a private party. A 2012 C63 is a pretty desirable car, so you should be able to sell it easily. List it on Craigslist, Autotrader and in these forums as well.
If you have a low mileage 2013 C63 in great condition, it would easily go for $55k. A loaded 2012 C63 with leather, P31 and other options should sell for $60k+.
If you have a low mileage 2013 C63 in great condition, it would easily go for $55k. A loaded 2012 C63 with leather, P31 and other options should sell for $60k+.
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You are better off selling your car to a private party. A 2012 C63 is a pretty desirable car, so you should be able to sell it easily. List it on Craigslist, Autotrader and in these forums as well.
If you have a low mileage 2013 C63 in great condition, it would easily go for $55k. A loaded 2012 C63 with leather, P31 and other options should sell for $60k+.
If you have a low mileage 2013 C63 in great condition, it would easily go for $55k. A loaded 2012 C63 with leather, P31 and other options should sell for $60k+.
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I'm curious if anyone has done a dealer trade in with their former C63 recently. I have a 2012 sedan (non development, non leather) which retailed for approx. $65k new. The dealer trade in values I've looked at are all over the map -- from $41k on edmunds to almost $50k on KBB. I'm curious if anyone has traded theirs in recently and the ballpark value they got for it.
Btw, I am aware that trading in a C63 on anything is borderline insane. I don't think you can have more fun on public roads in anything south of $100k than you can have in a C63. I'm just considering going with something a tad more practical, unfortunately. Thanks.
Btw, I am aware that trading in a C63 on anything is borderline insane. I don't think you can have more fun on public roads in anything south of $100k than you can have in a C63. I'm just considering going with something a tad more practical, unfortunately. Thanks.
Whats more practical then a 4 door sedan with 450hp? a prius?
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Well that's a good trade off then...some of those SUVs haul ***!!! and they look sexy. At least you're not down grading in the HP department
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while shopping for my replacement car this week, I was offered $45k (Ferrari); $47k (Porsche) and $48k (BMW) on my loaded p31 2011 w/10,000 miles and perfect! I'm just in the inital phase of buying and would be happy to get $50k for my car on trade in, I too have high sales tax in my state, so private sale would have to be $54k to be worth it and I don't want the hassle.
BTW, after driving everything 2014 M6, 2014 Maserati GT MC, 2004 360, 2007 F430, 2014 911S (c2s)--I'm going 911S, all day long (if my budget allowed, I'd do the F430, but no warranty and me and a Ferrari = "operation light money on fire").
The 911S is an amazing car (and I'm not a huge P-car groupie) w/sport exhaust, it sounds as good or better than my C63 (yeah, I'm not kidding). And it's faster in every way and super fun to beat on! It'll be around $125k, but they'll take $10k off a 2014 and I have an amazing car to beat on with warranty for the next few years!!
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BTW, after driving everything 2014 M6, 2014 Maserati GT MC, 2004 360, 2007 F430, 2014 911S (c2s)--I'm going 911S, all day long (if my budget allowed, I'd do the F430, but no warranty and me and a Ferrari = "operation light money on fire").
The 911S is an amazing car (and I'm not a huge P-car groupie) w/sport exhaust, it sounds as good or better than my C63 (yeah, I'm not kidding). And it's faster in every way and super fun to beat on! It'll be around $125k, but they'll take $10k off a 2014 and I have an amazing car to beat on with warranty for the next few years!!
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while shopping for my replacement car this week, I was offered $45k (Ferrari); $47k (Porsche) and $48k (BMW) on my loaded p31 2011 w/10,000 miles and perfect!
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but they'll take $10k off a 2014 and I have an amazing car to beat on with warranty for the next few years!!
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but they'll take $10k off a 2014 and I have an amazing car to beat on with warranty for the next few years!!
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For a reference point:
My previous 2010 C63 had all the options, just no LSD or PP. With 45k on the odometer, I received $47k for it. I think that it is a hell of a deal. I'm pretty sure it all depends on the person/dealership that you are dealing with. Just adding my experience.
My previous 2010 C63 had all the options, just no LSD or PP. With 45k on the odometer, I received $47k for it. I think that it is a hell of a deal. I'm pretty sure it all depends on the person/dealership that you are dealing with. Just adding my experience.
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you just lost all your credability on that one. not that the c63 is the end all exhaust note by any means. But that porsche is far from a desirable sound. the flat 6 sounds terrible regardless of make or car its in. Im sure it drives great but sounds great? not happening. it sounds tolerable at maybe 5k+rpm other than that it sounds like a gay billy goat growling.
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You are better off selling your car to a private party. A 2012 C63 is a pretty desirable car, so you should be able to sell it easily. List it on Craigslist, Autotrader and in these forums as well.
If you have a low mileage 2013 C63 in great condition, it would easily go for $55k. A loaded 2012 C63 with leather, P31 and other options should sell for $60k+.
If you have a low mileage 2013 C63 in great condition, it would easily go for $55k. A loaded 2012 C63 with leather, P31 and other options should sell for $60k+.
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it's become sort of cultish, with people saying if you dis it, you never owned one...I never owned a Corvair but know it is not a good performance layout
and no one else makes a rear engined car, for good reason, it's not the optimum layout for performance...Dr. Ing., honorary certificate (h.c.), F. Porsche happed to have some beetles laying around in the rubble after WWII, so he improvised and made some sporters. creative, yes, innovative, possibly, best layout...nope
the layout was chosen for manufacturing/assemby ease, not performance
(although it does do well in German winters)
imho an M3 coupe is the best hipo tourer out there...it's much cheaper, more practical, equal or better performance than the base 911, and on par with an S...
granted, the GT3 is a special car, purpose built and a great weekender, but I'm betting if the good Dr. could do it again with better resources and materials at his disposal he would do it different, and his successors have borne that out...you can only lengthen the wheelbase and shorten the drivetrain (move engine forward) so much, until you have to flip it over an make it mid engined
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I've owned 2 911 series, they are great cars, possibly even iconic, but a compromise none the less...all their new designs are mid or front engined
it's become sort of cultish, with people saying if you dis it, you never owned one...I never owned a Corvair but know it is not a good performance layout
and no one else makes a rear engined car, for good reason, it's not the optimum layout for performance...Dr. Ing., honorary certificate (h.c.), F. Porsche happed to have some beetles laying around in the rubble after WWII, so he improvised and made some sporters. creative, yes, innovative, possibly, best layout...nope
the layout was chosen for manufacturing/assemby ease, not performance
(although it does do well in German winters)
imho an M3 coupe is the best hipo tourer out there...it's much cheaper, more practical, equal or better performance than the base 911, and on par with an S...
granted, the GT3 is a special car, purpose built and a great weekender, but I'm betting if the good Dr. could do it again with better resources and materials at his disposal he would do it different, and his successors have borne that out...you can only lengthen the wheelbase and shorten the drivetrain (move engine forward) so much, until you have to flip it over an make it mid engined
it's become sort of cultish, with people saying if you dis it, you never owned one...I never owned a Corvair but know it is not a good performance layout
and no one else makes a rear engined car, for good reason, it's not the optimum layout for performance...Dr. Ing., honorary certificate (h.c.), F. Porsche happed to have some beetles laying around in the rubble after WWII, so he improvised and made some sporters. creative, yes, innovative, possibly, best layout...nope
the layout was chosen for manufacturing/assemby ease, not performance
(although it does do well in German winters)
imho an M3 coupe is the best hipo tourer out there...it's much cheaper, more practical, equal or better performance than the base 911, and on par with an S...
granted, the GT3 is a special car, purpose built and a great weekender, but I'm betting if the good Dr. could do it again with better resources and materials at his disposal he would do it different, and his successors have borne that out...you can only lengthen the wheelbase and shorten the drivetrain (move engine forward) so much, until you have to flip it over an make it mid engined
wow so many good points indeed...
BTW that video is exactly how some M3 sounds in high rev...
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That being said, the 997TT sounds pretty blah. Those two compressors in the middle of the exhaust tend to muffle any decent sound that the engine produces, so they're rather muted.
I've owned 2 911 series, they are great cars, possibly even iconic, but a compromise none the less...all their new designs are mid or front engined
it's become sort of cultish, with people saying if you dis it, you never owned one...I never owned a Corvair but know it is not a good performance layout
and no one else makes a rear engined car, for good reason, it's not the optimum layout for performance...Dr. Ing., honorary certificate (h.c.), F. Porsche happed to have some beetles laying around in the rubble after WWII, so he improvised and made some sporters. creative, yes, innovative, possibly, best layout...nope
the layout was chosen for manufacturing/assemby ease, not performance
(although it does do well in German winters)
imho an M3 coupe is the best hipo tourer out there...it's much cheaper, more practical, equal or better performance than the base 911, and on par with an S...
granted, the GT3 is a special car, purpose built and a great weekender, but I'm betting if the good Dr. could do it again with better resources and materials at his disposal he would do it different, and his successors have borne that out...you can only lengthen the wheelbase and shorten the drivetrain (move engine forward) so much, until you have to flip it over an make it mid engined
it's become sort of cultish, with people saying if you dis it, you never owned one...I never owned a Corvair but know it is not a good performance layout
and no one else makes a rear engined car, for good reason, it's not the optimum layout for performance...Dr. Ing., honorary certificate (h.c.), F. Porsche happed to have some beetles laying around in the rubble after WWII, so he improvised and made some sporters. creative, yes, innovative, possibly, best layout...nope
the layout was chosen for manufacturing/assemby ease, not performance
(although it does do well in German winters)
imho an M3 coupe is the best hipo tourer out there...it's much cheaper, more practical, equal or better performance than the base 911, and on par with an S...
granted, the GT3 is a special car, purpose built and a great weekender, but I'm betting if the good Dr. could do it again with better resources and materials at his disposal he would do it different, and his successors have borne that out...you can only lengthen the wheelbase and shorten the drivetrain (move engine forward) so much, until you have to flip it over an make it mid engined
But I also agree that if you want a Porsche sports-car, you're better off looking at a Cayman. The 911 may still be classified as a sports-car, but it's probably drifted more towards sports-touring (ala M3 or C63) than pure sports-car. The Cayman is Porsche's proper sports-car now. The biggest challenge Porsche faces is their reluctance to build a real, high HP version of the Cayman (which would quite quickly chew into 911 sales). If they ever built a "Cayman GT3" it would be a pretty stunning car.
As to trade-in values on a C63, I was offered between $45K and $50K for my '12 C63 Coupe with PP (fully loaded as well), with 15K miles on it. That's basically a $30,000 hit from brand new, 12 months ago. It's not the worst depreciation I've seen, but it's right up there.
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IMHO, $60k or thereabouts for a low mileage '12 coupe or sedan with a $80k MSRP is fair value if you can find the right buyer. I wouldn't sell the car for much less unless I really had to sell it.
There are a few factors that would determine what it would actually sell for, including but not limited to the seller's desperation, location, remaining warranty, condition and color/options.