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Er... no. I am glad it worked for you though.Originally Posted by I am Jeff
I fixed my brake squeal issue by making sure to wash my rotors every time I wash my car. I take a hose and flush the center of the rotors with water until the water flowing out of the bottom of the rotors are no longer black. The squeal is just caused by excessive brake dust.
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that seems stiff, plus hard to believe all 4 rotors are shot at 29k miles
the factory usually puts soft pads on, so the pads wear (and make a lot of dust) but are easy on the rotors
my RS4 was on original rotors at 75k miles, only 70% worn front, only 50% rear when I mic'ed them
my e46 M3 got 80-90k from the rotors
the rotors on this car are actually pretty cheap
http://www.genuinemercedesparts.com/...w=11&maxRow=10
F pads 228
R pads 120
F rotor 2 x 128
R rotor 2 x 192
misc sensors, etc 35
total material ~1000
probably 6-8 hours of labor for me to do it
I like to do this work myself, much cheaper, I clean everything up better (inside of wheels, calipers, sliding surfaces, etc.) and usually flush the system, plus the sense of satisfaction....6 hours of my time is definitely worth 1500 to 5200 (2500 or 6200 - 1000) judging from the prices posted
the factory usually puts soft pads on, so the pads wear (and make a lot of dust) but are easy on the rotors
my RS4 was on original rotors at 75k miles, only 70% worn front, only 50% rear when I mic'ed them
my e46 M3 got 80-90k from the rotors
the rotors on this car are actually pretty cheap
http://www.genuinemercedesparts.com/...w=11&maxRow=10
F pads 228
R pads 120
F rotor 2 x 128
R rotor 2 x 192
misc sensors, etc 35
total material ~1000
probably 6-8 hours of labor for me to do it
I like to do this work myself, much cheaper, I clean everything up better (inside of wheels, calipers, sliding surfaces, etc.) and usually flush the system, plus the sense of satisfaction....6 hours of my time is definitely worth 1500 to 5200 (2500 or 6200 - 1000) judging from the prices posted
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the factory usually puts soft pads on, so the pads wear (and make a lot of dust) but are easy on the rotors
my RS4 was on original rotors at 75k miles, only 70% worn front, only 50% rear when I mic'ed them
my e46 M3 got 80-90k from the rotors
the rotors on this car are actually pretty cheap
http://www.genuinemercedesparts.com/...w=11&maxRow=10
F pads 228
R pads 120
F rotor 2 x 128
R rotor 2 x 192
misc sensors, etc 35
total material ~1000
probably 6-8 hours of labor for me to do it
I like to do this work myself, much cheaper, I clean everything up better (inside of wheels, calipers, sliding surfaces, etc.) and usually flush the system, plus the sense of satisfaction....6 hours of my time is definitely worth 1500 to 5200 (2500 or 6200 - 1000) judging from the prices posted
There's no way the front rotors are $128 each from MB if the rears are $200 a pop. Fronts go for $350-$400 a piece on eBay.Originally Posted by Ingenieur
that seems stiff, plus hard to believe all 4 rotors are shot at 29k milesthe factory usually puts soft pads on, so the pads wear (and make a lot of dust) but are easy on the rotors
my RS4 was on original rotors at 75k miles, only 70% worn front, only 50% rear when I mic'ed them
my e46 M3 got 80-90k from the rotors
the rotors on this car are actually pretty cheap
http://www.genuinemercedesparts.com/...w=11&maxRow=10
F pads 228
R pads 120
F rotor 2 x 128
R rotor 2 x 192
misc sensors, etc 35
total material ~1000
probably 6-8 hours of labor for me to do it
I like to do this work myself, much cheaper, I clean everything up better (inside of wheels, calipers, sliding surfaces, etc.) and usually flush the system, plus the sense of satisfaction....6 hours of my time is definitely worth 1500 to 5200 (2500 or 6200 - 1000) judging from the prices posted
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go to the linkOriginally Posted by Diabolis
There's no way the front rotors are $128 each from MB if the rears are $200 a pop. Fronts go for $350-$400 a piece on eBay.
it's a dealers parts site
rears are more expensive, they incorporate the drums
the fronts are 1 piece, not floating
BRAKES / BRAKE COMPONENTS / FRONT BRAKES / ROTOR ROTOR C63 AMG; w/o AMG Performance Pkg.
MSRP Core ? Online Price $160.00 $0.00$ 128.00
BRAKES / BRAKE COMPONENTS / REAR BRAKES / ROTOR ROTOR C63 AMG
MSRP Core ? Online Price $240.00 $0.00 $192.00
now what, lol
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The one where Mercedes Benz of Annapolis (the dealer that runs getmercedesparts.com) is charging me $987 (tax not included) for 2 front rotors, 2 rear rotors, set of OEM front pads and a set of OEM rear pads.... and no, the dealer does not sell parts at a loss.. which means that the markup is close to 150%.... so yes, I live on this planet, and that is insane dealer markup.Originally Posted by Diabolis
Four rotors and pads for $2500 is a high dealer markup? What planet do you live on?
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There's smart and then there's cheap. IMHO this is well over the line into the second category. Sure, go right ahead and put cheap Chinese aftermarket rotors by a cheap shop and save $200. Just don't complain about squealing, vibration when they warp because they're crap or were over-torqued by your cheap mechanic and if they crack or wear out in 5K miles.
See my quote above.. OEM MB parts from a dealer.. think again.There's smart and then there's cheap. IMHO this is well over the line into the second category. Sure, go right ahead and put cheap Chinese aftermarket rotors by a cheap shop and save $200. Just don't complain about squealing, vibration when they warp because they're crap or were over-torqued by your cheap mechanic and if they crack or wear out in 5K miles.
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Also, economies of scale, more front rotors are replaced then rears, resulting in lower cost.
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This whole el-cheapo mentality is really ****ing annoying. Maybe you're driving the wrong car if you can't afford to service it when it is clearly warranted.
Lol kid gtfo... You don't even know the situation. I told dealer to go ahead and replace everything but they weren't going to fix my fog light control module per policy as it was aftermarket. I wanted to get everything fixed all in one stop because I don't have time to deal with this. It's not the saving money but let's be real dealerships are called stealer ships for a reason.Originally Posted by Diabolis
Did you see that BOTH the rotors and the pads are at the wear limit? If they are worn they need to be replaced. Last time I checked, brakes were a wear and tear item. The price is more than reasonable for pads and rotors at all four corners. The rotors are worn to the minimum. Please explain to me how is the dealer trying to rape you? By replacing parts that need to be replaced?This whole el-cheapo mentality is really ****ing annoying. Maybe you're driving the wrong car if you can't afford to service it when it is clearly warranted.
I'm not being cheap, I'm being logical here. Of course I trust dealerships more than independent shops but dealership won't fix my fog light and the shop I'm taking it to does high end cars and will fix my dented fender as well. Knocking three birds with one stone.
Please think more logically next time you go ahead and click the submit reply.
P.S. I'm 23 and make $150k+ a year. Also the c63 is my daily driver and the weekend is a gallardo. Pretty sure you're some 50 year old reddit beard neck who doesn't even lift. Take care honcho
Also to add on, I'm changing 6k fog and low beam lights to 8k as well at the shop. So technically getting
Pads
Fogs
Low beams
Fender pdr
Fog light hid computer module replaced
So that would be 5 birds with one stone
Pads
Fogs
Low beams
Fender pdr
Fog light hid computer module replaced
So that would be 5 birds with one stone
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P.S. I'm 23 and make $150k+ a year. Also the c63 is my daily driver and the weekend is a gallardo. Pretty sure you're some 50 year old reddit beard neck who doesn't even lift. Take care honcho
Originally Posted by socalwdup
P.S. I'm 23 and make $150k+ a year. Also the c63 is my daily driver and the weekend is a gallardo. Pretty sure you're some 50 year old reddit beard neck who doesn't even lift. Take care honcho
I remember my 1st 150k a year...Don't be a cocky idiot...I make what you make in a year in almost a month now and I never chirp people like that and I'm 24.
P.S dumb finanical move to buy a lambo with a 150k/year income...no offence but put money into a portfolio and turn that 150k a year into 500 a year in no time...just my 2cents tho
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I believe the dealer quote includes labour, but whatever... if you can get a complete brake job for $1K, all the power to you. Buy them on-line, pay another $200 in shipping, add your 6-8 hours of labour and you're again at the $2K+ mark. Again, how is $2350 a rip-off?
Yes, I know the fronts are not the P31 ones - those rotors are $1K each.
Yes, I know the fronts are not the P31 ones - those rotors are $1K each.
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Let me guess you also happen to rock a Mandingo? Pls goOriginally Posted by avery.whss
I remember my 1st 150k a year...Don't be a cocky idiot...I make what you make in a year in almost a month now and I never chirp people like that and I'm 24.
Mods feel free to delete thread I don't have time for this
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No...I have a slightly successful internet business actually...just remember bro whatever you make...someone makes 100000x more..even I know this which is why I don't throw around the "income" bull**** because it's childish..you don't see dudes making 150k a day on forums talking down people and yeah..people do make 150k in a day..infact theres people who make 10x that a dayOriginally Posted by socalwdup
Let me guess you also happen to rock a Mandingo? Pls goMods feel free to delete thread I don't have time for this
Uh oh...big boy now that you're making 6 figures...Lol...like I said man..that attitude will get you no where long-term with wealth...all I'm saying is stay humble, the guys over in the SLS section would seriously laugh at you.
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It seems this thread has turned into who has the bigger dick. Well, for the record, I make 150m a minute, so there...my dick is bigger.
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Man... you're such a class act. I couldn't stoop down to your level even if I tried.Originally Posted by socalwdup
P.S. I'm 23 and make $150k+ a year. Also the c63 is my daily driver and the weekend is a gallardo. Pretty sure you're some 50 year old reddit beard neck who doesn't even lift. Take care honcho
If you are so ****ing rich at 23, why are you buying a 5-year old used car and then b!+ching about spending money to patch it up - on a budget? Is the meth supply you've been selling drying up or are a$$h0135 in such an abundance now that you can no longer charge the same rate for your butt?
P.S. If you're making $150K a year, you should probably be doing better things with it than buying a Lambo. Just sayin'.
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Yes, I know the fronts are not the P31 ones - those rotors are $1K each.
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I believe the dealer quote includes labour, but whatever... if you can get a complete brake job for $1K, all the power to you. Buy them on-line, pay another $200 in shipping, add your 6-8 hours of labour and you're again at the $2K+ mark. Again, how is $2350 a rip-off?Yes, I know the fronts are not the P31 ones - those rotors are $1K each.
the P31 are not $1000 each
BRAKES / BRAKE COMPONENTS / FRONT BRAKES / ROTOR ROTOR C63 AMG; w/AMG Performance Pkg.
MSRP Core ? Online Price $885.00 $0.00 $708.00
funny, my estimate was dang close to the $987 someone actually paid
buy the parts for 1200 (w/shipping)
install in 6 hours, that equals $220/hour
do you make 450k/year, wait, that 1300 is after tax so closer to 1800 or 300/hr or 625k/year
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P.S dumb finanical move to buy a lambo with a 150k/year income...no offence but put money into a portfolio and turn that 150k a year into 500 a year in no time...just my 2cents tho
Originally Posted by avery.whss
I remember my 1st 150k a year...Don't be a cocky idiot...I make what you make in a year in almost a month now and I never chirp people like that and I'm 24.P.S dumb finanical move to buy a lambo with a 150k/year income...no offence but put money into a portfolio and turn that 150k a year into 500 a year in no time...just my 2cents tho

on multiple counts
you don't make 1.8 mil year
and you can't get a 333% return in a year 150k to 500k Mr. Buffet, lol
you are so full of it
btw: 'in a year' is not 'no time', it is 1 year
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on multiple counts
you don't make 1.8 mil year
and you can get a 325% return in a year 150k to 500k
you are so full of it
I never said you go from 150k a year to 500k a year in 1 year...throw 50k a year into dividends or something with med or high risk..do that for a few years and it adds up.Originally Posted by Ingenieur

on multiple counts
you don't make 1.8 mil year
and you can get a 325% return in a year 150k to 500k
you are so full of it
I never said I make 150k a month..but it's more then the average family makes in a year..who cares though...this thread shouldn't be about who makes more
Btw I said. turn that 150k a year into 500 a year in no time... I never said "In a year" i said..."a year" meaning it could take you 2 years 3 years 10 years to build up a portfolio that makes you that much
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BRAKES / BRAKE COMPONENTS / FRONT BRAKES / ROTOR ROTOR C63 AMG; w/AMG Performance Pkg.
MSRP Core ? Online Price $885.00 $0.00 $708.00
funny, my estimate was dang close to the $987 someone actually paid
buy the parts for 1200 (w/shipping)
install in 6 hours, that equals $220/hour
do you make 450k/year, wait, that 1300 is after tax so closer to 1800 or 300/hr or 625k/year
I was thinking along the lines of the $150/hr rate that MB charges here in Toronto (6 hrs is $900, 8 is 1.2K). And the P31 composite rotors here are $1K a pop. Even with the exchange rate of 0.95, the prices there are still lower than what I had expected. Thanks for the heads-up.Originally Posted by Ingenieur
the P31 are not $1000 eachBRAKES / BRAKE COMPONENTS / FRONT BRAKES / ROTOR ROTOR C63 AMG; w/AMG Performance Pkg.
MSRP Core ? Online Price $885.00 $0.00 $708.00
funny, my estimate was dang close to the $987 someone actually paid
buy the parts for 1200 (w/shipping)
install in 6 hours, that equals $220/hour
do you make 450k/year, wait, that 1300 is after tax so closer to 1800 or 300/hr or 625k/year
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I never said I make 150k a month but I make close to 6 figures a month...who cares though...this thread shouldn't be about who makes more
again, BSOriginally Posted by avery.whss
I never said you go from 150k a year to 500k a year in 1 year...throw 50k a year into dividends or something with med or high risk..do that for a few years and it adds up.I never said I make 150k a month but I make close to 6 figures a month...who cares though...this thread shouldn't be about who makes more
you don't make 100,000/month, which btw is not close to 150,000
it's 33% less, you don't make 1.2 mil/year
50k a year will not yeild 500k in a 'few' (2 or 3) years
it would take at least 7 years at 10%, good luck on finding that consistently
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you don't make 100,000/month, which btw is not close to 150,000
it's 33% less, you don't make 1.2 mil/year
50k a year will not yeild 500k in a 'few' (2 or 3) years
it would take at least 7 years at 10%, good luck on finding that consistently
Ok mr.i know everyones financial information LOL.Originally Posted by Ingenieur
again, BSyou don't make 100,000/month, which btw is not close to 150,000
it's 33% less, you don't make 1.2 mil/year
50k a year will not yeild 500k in a 'few' (2 or 3) years
it would take at least 7 years at 10%, good luck on finding that consistently
Listen dude I'm not here to throw around numbers...but you don't even know me...so don't go around calling me a liar after I've worked my *** off for 15 hours a day for the last 7 years to achieve what I have.
Thanks.
Oh yeah totally forgot that 50k a year in a high risk investment only stays 50k a year...Go smoke another one...

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I never said I make 150k a month..but it's more then the average family makes in a year..who cares though...this thread shouldn't be about who makes more
Btw I said. turn that 150k a year into 500 a year in no time... I never said "In a year" i said..."a year" meaning it could take you 2 years 3 years 10 years to build up a portfolio that makes you that much
Agreed on all counts (and not because you're taking my side here). Income has nothing to do with it what car you drive, but as someone who also owns their own business I agree that there are better things to do with your $150K a year than spend it all on a Lambo.Originally Posted by avery.whss
I never said you go from 150k a year to 500k a year in 1 year...throw 50k a year into dividends or something with med or high risk..do that for a few years and it adds up.I never said I make 150k a month..but it's more then the average family makes in a year..who cares though...this thread shouldn't be about who makes more
Btw I said. turn that 150k a year into 500 a year in no time... I never said "In a year" i said..."a year" meaning it could take you 2 years 3 years 10 years to build up a portfolio that makes you that much
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my point is your time can be an investment (and a learning experience)Originally Posted by Diabolis
I was thinking along the lines of the $150/hr rate that MB charges here in Toronto (6 hrs is $900, 8 is 1.2K). And the P31 composite rotors here are $1K a pop. Even with the exchange rate of 0.95, the prices there are still lower than what I had expected. Thanks for the heads-up.
you can bank 1300 by doing it yourself, 1800 pre-tax
which is 300/hr, not too shabby for an afternoon of sipping beer, watching the alma mater get clobbered, and doing a brake job, lol
the only way I can justify cars like these is doing the maintenance
I said justify, not afford, but why squander hard earned $$$ ?
I make a good living, not 1.8 mil at 24 years old, but definitley top 5% household
I figure working on my cars since 1990 (e30 M3, e36 M3, e46 M3 and RS4) I've saved 25k, with interest that's worth an easy 75k, which would have paid for a car!
oil changes alone
500k miles at least 75 oil changes or , at least 100 cheaper than the dealer, 7500 bucks, >10k pre-tax
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I hope the discussion on brakes is more accurate than on investments and projected returns.
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you can bank 1300 by doing it yourself, 1800 pre-tax
which is 300/hr, not too shabby for an afternoon of sipping beer, watching the alma mater get clobbered, and doing a brake job, lol
the only way I can justify cars like these is doing the maintenance
I said justify, not afford, but why squander hard earned $$$ ?
I make a good living, not 1.8 mil at 24 years old, but definitley top 5% household
I figure working on my cars since 1990 (e30 M3, e36 M3, e46 M3 and RS4) I've saved 25k, with interest that's worth an easy 75k, which would have paid for a car!
oil changes alone
500k miles at least 75 oil changes or , at least 100 cheaper than the dealer, 7500 bucks, >10k pre-tax
I'd love to do my own brakes...but am I confident? hell no...I don't want to screw something up and then it costs me thousands to fix..maybe when I'm older and have worked on other cars but not everyone has worked on a ton of cars.Originally Posted by Ingenieur
my point is your time can be an investment (and a learning experience)you can bank 1300 by doing it yourself, 1800 pre-tax
which is 300/hr, not too shabby for an afternoon of sipping beer, watching the alma mater get clobbered, and doing a brake job, lol
the only way I can justify cars like these is doing the maintenance
I said justify, not afford, but why squander hard earned $$$ ?
I make a good living, not 1.8 mil at 24 years old, but definitley top 5% household
I figure working on my cars since 1990 (e30 M3, e36 M3, e46 M3 and RS4) I've saved 25k, with interest that's worth an easy 75k, which would have paid for a car!
oil changes alone
500k miles at least 75 oil changes or , at least 100 cheaper than the dealer, 7500 bucks, >10k pre-tax
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you're not helping your case
did you look at the yeilds
the graph is 20 years
20k hit 60k (3:1 return, same as 150 to 500) in 10 years or so (as I said!
1996 to 2007
now it's still worth ~60k, so 20k in 1996, 60k in 2013, 17 years
the 5 year return is 1.78%
perhaps you need a new banker squire, lol
never said liar, you did (Freudian?) that you don't make between 1.2 and 1.8 million per year
did you look at the yeilds
the graph is 20 years
20k hit 60k (3:1 return, same as 150 to 500) in 10 years or so (as I said!
1996 to 2007
now it's still worth ~60k, so 20k in 1996, 60k in 2013, 17 years
the 5 year return is 1.78%
perhaps you need a new banker squire, lol
never said liar, you did (Freudian?) that you don't make between 1.2 and 1.8 million per year
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Listen dude I'm not here to throw around numbers...but you don't even know me...so don't go around calling me a liar after I've worked my *** off for 15 hours a day for the last 7 years to achieve what I have.
Thanks.
Oh yeah totally forgot that 50k a year in a high risk investment only stays 50k a year...Go smoke another one...

Maybe you need to find a new banker or finanical advisor
Originally Posted by avery.whss
Ok mr.i know everyones financial information LOL.Listen dude I'm not here to throw around numbers...but you don't even know me...so don't go around calling me a liar after I've worked my *** off for 15 hours a day for the last 7 years to achieve what I have.
Thanks.
Oh yeah totally forgot that 50k a year in a high risk investment only stays 50k a year...Go smoke another one...

Maybe you need to find a new banker or finanical advisor