Wheel hop?? ('13 C63)
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Wheel hop?? ('13 C63)
Hey guys.
I've got about 1,800 miles on my new '13 C63.
Even with the traction control completely disabled, it feels like the rear of the car is about to explode/fall apart when I stab the throttle from a stop in S+.
Is what I'm experiencing just ultra-violent wheel spin?
Or is it wheel hop? I didn't think wheel hop was an issue on the C63.
Any feedback would be appreciated. I'd be happy to answer any follow-up questions.
Thanks in advance.
I've got about 1,800 miles on my new '13 C63.
Even with the traction control completely disabled, it feels like the rear of the car is about to explode/fall apart when I stab the throttle from a stop in S+.
Is what I'm experiencing just ultra-violent wheel spin?
Or is it wheel hop? I didn't think wheel hop was an issue on the C63.
Any feedback would be appreciated. I'd be happy to answer any follow-up questions.
Thanks in advance.
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Some additional information:
It's cold here right now (41 degrees Fahrenheit) and I'm still running my summer tires (OEM Continental tires).
I'm thinking it's time I put on my new Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32s.
It's cold here right now (41 degrees Fahrenheit) and I'm still running my summer tires (OEM Continental tires).
I'm thinking it's time I put on my new Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32s.
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I wasn't feathering the throttle at all. I was just flat-out mashing it (on purpose) to see how the car would respond.
I've used Race Start feature twice and have experienced a bit wheel hop using that as well.
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I don't seem to get any wheel hop...just two looooong black stripes and a ton of smoke accompanied by beautiful engine noise and a loud exhaust pop on the upshift. Didn't have wheel hop with stock conti 5Ps and stock alignment and don't with the S-04s and half the factory rear toe.
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I don't seem to get any wheel hop...just two looooong black stripes and a ton of smoke accompanied by beautiful engine noise and a loud exhaust pop on the upshift. Didn't have wheel hop with stock conti 5Ps and stock alignment and don't with the S-04s and half the factory rear toe.
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I do not have one, unfortunately.
Everything about the car feels strong. The engine, the brakes, etc.
Suspension has felt wonderful as well. I'm wondering if the wheel hop I'm encountering is a product of user error. Alternatively, I'm trying to determine if other variables (tire pressure, temperature, etc.) are contributing to its occurrence.
I've been researching C63 wheel hop thoroughly and cannot find a lot of information. I don't see how this could be an issue at all on such a strong-running, well taken care of, new car.
Everything about the car feels strong. The engine, the brakes, etc.
Suspension has felt wonderful as well. I'm wondering if the wheel hop I'm encountering is a product of user error. Alternatively, I'm trying to determine if other variables (tire pressure, temperature, etc.) are contributing to its occurrence.
I've been researching C63 wheel hop thoroughly and cannot find a lot of information. I don't see how this could be an issue at all on such a strong-running, well taken care of, new car.
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I don't seem to get any wheel hop...just two looooong black stripes and a ton of smoke accompanied by beautiful engine noise and a loud exhaust pop on the upshift. Didn't have wheel hop with stock conti 5Ps and stock alignment and don't with the S-04s and half the factory rear toe.
I don't seem to remember any wheel hop issues at all during the scorching September we just had here.
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If that's the case, I'll put on the Blizzaks immediately. I was waiting because I still have a 750i xDrive that I use for the winter.
Thanks.
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Thanks for the reply. Can you elaborate?
So do you think the fact that I'm still running the summer tires in cold(er) weather is playing a significant role in this?
If that's the case, I'll put on the Blizzaks immediately. I was waiting because I still have a 750i xDrive that I use for the winter.
Thanks.
So do you think the fact that I'm still running the summer tires in cold(er) weather is playing a significant role in this?
If that's the case, I'll put on the Blizzaks immediately. I was waiting because I still have a 750i xDrive that I use for the winter.
Thanks.
I do have a factory LSD.
What tires are you running?
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I'm running the OEM Continental tires.
Would be happy to answer any other questions. Trying to diagnose this ASAP. Thanks.
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Thanks for the extra info. I can see why you have likely never experienced it then. If you've got great grip, it shouldn't be an issue. If you have no grip, then it shouldn't be an issue.
When your grip somewhere in between, prepare for your spine to be punched. Hard.
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in my Vette when the tires aren't warmed up yet it's wheel hop city all day, especially now that the temperature is cooler. Once the tires are warmed up I don't experience any wheel hop. YMMV.
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I noticed today that, despite the cooler temperatures (and despite the fact that I'm still running my summer tires), I did not experience any wheel hop.
The difference: I made sure the tires were warmed up.
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Was that you?
I've heard from several people now that they have indeed experienced it at one point or another. Consider yourself fortunate that you've always had phenomenal grip!
Wheel hop is also relatively common for the E9X M3s, I've come to learn.
I've checked out the car. Everything looks good, as suspected (it is a brand new car with less than 2,000 miles on it, after all).
In any event, it looks like cold temperatures and cold tires played a major role.
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I’ve read that wheel hop is primarily caused by deflection in the drive train/suspension. Since these are still Mercedes the rubber they use in the bushes is probably pretty soft for a car with this kind of power. Maybe that makes it more susceptible to wheel hop from other factors, since the suspension is barely rigid enough to fully eliminate the hopping. That could also be why only slightly deteriorated bushes/shocks, which by all appearances still seem fine, are no longer rigid enough to keep wheel hop from happening. I have a ‘12 C63 coupé with 43,000mi and I also get wheel hop pretty frequently when I attempt to make an eleven from a stop sign. At the time of writing this it is quite cold also (15F) and I’m on oem Conti 5P’s. The low temps and old tires also seem to be a factor according to your guy’s accounts. I’ll have to revisit this when we come out of winter again. I’m just wondering how the heck I’m supposed to heat up the tires before a run at the track if all I get is that god awful, car destroying, shuddering. I can’t afford to blow up a diff damn it!
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I’ve read that wheel hop is primarily caused by deflection in the drive train/suspension. Since these are still Mercedes the rubber they use in the bushes is probably pretty soft for a car with this kind of power. Maybe that makes it more susceptible to wheel hop from other factors, since the suspension is barely rigid enough to fully eliminate the hopping. That could also be why only slightly deteriorated bushes/shocks, which by all appearances still seem fine, are no longer rigid enough to keep wheel hop from happening. I have a ‘12 C63 coupé with 43,000mi and I also get wheel hop pretty frequently when I attempt to make an eleven from a stop sign. At the time of writing this it is quite cold also (15F) and I’m on oem Conti 5P’s. The low temps and old tires also seem to be a factor according to your guy’s accounts. I’ll have to revisit this when we come out of winter again. I’m just wondering how the heck I’m supposed to heat up the tires before a run at the track if all I get is that god awful, car destroying, shuddering. I can’t afford to blow up a diff damn it!
You are also playing with the devil if you are really running summer tires at 15f (if you mean celsius then you are ok but in the low end of use) your 5P's should not be used under 45F/7C, Continental will deny warranty due to cracking as the rubber gets so hard below freezing it will damage the tires and probably end up killing someone as they are almost useless at low temps.
