Need some advice got a Ticket
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Need some advice got a Ticket
Hey guys today as I was driving in an intersection the light was about to change, so because I didnt want to get caught up in it I gave my car some gas got up to 45mph at most (wasnt looking). Then when I come to a stop sign this motorcycle cop pulls me over. He was like you were going 60+++, and I said was I ? Then he asked for my license not even for insurance or registration. He wrote me a ticket for going 60+ mph in 30 mph zone. I asked him if it was possible to contest it, and his reply was "you better contest it, judge wants to see a lot of you guys there" What the hell does that mean ? Besides my girlfriend was next to me and she says that I was not going anywhere near 60+... What can I do about this ? I just think he gave me a ticket assuming I was going fast because our cars are loud and maybe he was hating I have no clue. What could I do ?
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Well go to court and challenge it
They will pressure you to plead guilty is some sort of latin jargon. I forget the term.
Dont cave in.
Unfortunately in traffic cases you have to prove to the judge that you werent going 60. The officers word will always prevail over yours. Show the judge the following:
How was the cop was able to gauge how fast you were going? By eye? What did he use as the benchmark? Was it an estimated guess? You were written up for going 60 mph in a 30 mph. How does he know it wasnt 50? Ask the cop if he had any devices on him to measure speed? Your GFs testimony wont count as she was in the car. You may want to hire a traffic attorney to fight this for you. ie the "Ticket Clinic".
I was going to say something smart like ask "BSmooth7" but you will prob end up in jail like he did.
They will pressure you to plead guilty is some sort of latin jargon. I forget the term.
Dont cave in.
Unfortunately in traffic cases you have to prove to the judge that you werent going 60. The officers word will always prevail over yours. Show the judge the following:
How was the cop was able to gauge how fast you were going? By eye? What did he use as the benchmark? Was it an estimated guess? You were written up for going 60 mph in a 30 mph. How does he know it wasnt 50? Ask the cop if he had any devices on him to measure speed? Your GFs testimony wont count as she was in the car. You may want to hire a traffic attorney to fight this for you. ie the "Ticket Clinic".
I was going to say something smart like ask "BSmooth7" but you will prob end up in jail like he did.
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If a cop in Poland gave me a ticket for going 60mph and judged it only by his guts or sight, I would laugh in his face.
I can't believe this is really happening on the other side of the pond. Crazy stuff.
Good luck OP, hope you get this resolved with no serious financial harm.
I can't believe this is really happening on the other side of the pond. Crazy stuff.
Good luck OP, hope you get this resolved with no serious financial harm.
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In California, there's supposed to be a record your speed with a specific type of equipment noted. If he doesn't have any of that information on how he obtained your speed or even what your exact speed reading was, then his word doesn't mean squat in court. You just need to know to ask for it.
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The cop most likely assume the speed. Yeah, how likely do you think that cop really had the equipment up and aimed at his car when he decided on the last minute to speed up through the yellow?!
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I would say OP has a good chance at beating it. He has a witness and the cop doesn't have a confirmed reading. I wouldn't even admit to 45mph. Just say you entered on a yellow, which should be totally legal, and that you accelerated slightly to cross the intersection. You can cite 30-60 stats and indicate that you car isn't capable of that within the distance of an intersection.
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In California, there's supposed to be a record your speed with a specific type of equipment noted. If he doesn't have any of that information on how he obtained your speed or even what your exact speed reading was, then his word doesn't mean squat in court. You just need to know to ask for it.
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I had the cops call me and say someone called me in crying because I was "going 200" down a road where there was pot holes every 10 feet due to construction...Goto court or call the supervisor at the police dept and tell him his deputies are drunk on the job and handing out false claim tickets...seriously..the only evidence he has is his eyes..big deal..tell the judge your car is a 6.3L engine and isn't some toyota prius so no **** it's going to sound loud...cops think they own you..but forget that we own them..don't let them walk all over you..I use to..ever since I told them to basically F off they've left me alone (thank god) just remember they are PUBLIC SERVANTS they aren't above you!!!!!
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If you are in CA, then you can do trial by written declaration where you don't even have to show up to court. Just find a good, reputable traffic court lawyer to do all the paperwork for you and mail it off when you are ready along with the bail. They will cash the bail, but you should receive your decision in the mail after a few months. Usually the police officer will not file anything and your case will be dismissed. It doesn't hurt to try and fight it because most law firms will give you your money back unless you win the case.
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On topic, you're innocent until proven guilty. "Estimating" speed isn't proof. It's hearsay. I'm sure I got pulled once because of my red car and my loud exhaust. He couldn't cite me for speeding because he didn't clock me. My V1 never went off.
On topic, you're innocent until proven guilty. "Estimating" speed isn't proof. It's hearsay. I'm sure I got pulled once because of my red car and my loud exhaust. He couldn't cite me for speeding because he didn't clock me. My V1 never went off.
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Oh man its only a speed ticket im sure u can settle it with a few hundreds out of ur pocket, costing less than one of the nice wheels u v got. My lawyer friend once told me, that if i was having too much free time to go thru all the hassle of fighting a speed ticket? Fact is u did go over the limit, be it a 10mph or 100mph over, who cares, but u did break the law.
Pay the bill n be a happy guy again. The cop was only doing his job, which itself would have stopped a few ppl got killd in a road accident due to speeding.
Pay the bill n be a happy guy again. The cop was only doing his job, which itself would have stopped a few ppl got killd in a road accident due to speeding.
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Oh man its only a speed ticket im sure u can settle it with a few hundreds out of ur pocket, costing less than one of the nice wheels u v got. My lawyer friend once told me, that if i was having too much free time to go thru all the hassle of fighting a speed ticket? Fact is u did go over the limit, be it a 10mph or 100mph over, who cares, but u did break the law.
Pay the bill n be a happy guy again. The cop was only doing his job, which itself would have stopped a few ppl got killd in a road accident due to speeding.
Pay the bill n be a happy guy again. The cop was only doing his job, which itself would have stopped a few ppl got killd in a road accident due to speeding.
This is one of those cases that you have to fight, at a minimum to it dropped to a lesser charge.
Also, some states like Virginia Maryland and DC, the judges will accept a cops testimony in lieu a mechanical speed check. It is possible to determine speed based on the time it takes to pass 2 points. However, that would require significantly more distance than just an intersection to be even remotely close to your actual speed. The shorter the distance, the greater the error in guessing.
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Oh man its only a speed ticket im sure u can settle it with a few hundreds out of ur pocket, costing less than one of the nice wheels u v got. My lawyer friend once told me, that if i was having too much free time to go thru all the hassle of fighting a speed ticket? Fact is u did go over the limit, be it a 10mph or 100mph over, who cares, but u did break the law.
Pay the bill n be a happy guy again. The cop was only doing his job, which itself would have stopped a few ppl got killd in a road accident due to speeding.
Pay the bill n be a happy guy again. The cop was only doing his job, which itself would have stopped a few ppl got killd in a road accident due to speeding.
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Get the Valentine 1 (i havnt got a single ticket since i got it) and GL!
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A lot of people have a vague conception of how traffic court works
Many assume that you are assumed to be innocent before guilty
That is not the case. In traffic court the burden of proof is on the defendant. The cop's word will always overtake that of the defendant. In order to prove your innocence you will have to challenge the cop's testimony in court. The judge will not review the circumstances pertaining to your case unless you present it. The fact that the police offer did not use equipment to accurately measure your speed will get you off regardless of your past violations.
If you are not comfortable challenging the police office directly in front of a judge, I would get a traffic court attorney. I know ticket clinic is out there. The only advantage they have is they do the work for you. There are no strings or acts behind the magic curtain. You are only paying them to defend you which you could do yourself
Many assume that you are assumed to be innocent before guilty
That is not the case. In traffic court the burden of proof is on the defendant. The cop's word will always overtake that of the defendant. In order to prove your innocence you will have to challenge the cop's testimony in court. The judge will not review the circumstances pertaining to your case unless you present it. The fact that the police offer did not use equipment to accurately measure your speed will get you off regardless of your past violations.
If you are not comfortable challenging the police office directly in front of a judge, I would get a traffic court attorney. I know ticket clinic is out there. The only advantage they have is they do the work for you. There are no strings or acts behind the magic curtain. You are only paying them to defend you which you could do yourself
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A lot of people have a vague conception of how traffic court works
Many assume that you are assumed to be innocent before guilty
That is not the case. In traffic court the burden of proof is on the defendant. The cop's word will always overtake that of the defendant. In order to prove your innocence you will have to challenge the cop's testimony in court. The judge will not review the circumstances pertaining to your case unless you present it. The fact that the police offer did not use equipment to accurately measure your speed will get you off regardless of your past violations.
If you are not comfortable challenging the police office directly in front of a judge, I would get a traffic court attorney. I know ticket clinic is out there. The only advantage they have is they do the work for you. There are no strings or acts behind the magic curtain. You are only paying them to defend you which you could do yourself
Many assume that you are assumed to be innocent before guilty
That is not the case. In traffic court the burden of proof is on the defendant. The cop's word will always overtake that of the defendant. In order to prove your innocence you will have to challenge the cop's testimony in court. The judge will not review the circumstances pertaining to your case unless you present it. The fact that the police offer did not use equipment to accurately measure your speed will get you off regardless of your past violations.
If you are not comfortable challenging the police office directly in front of a judge, I would get a traffic court attorney. I know ticket clinic is out there. The only advantage they have is they do the work for you. There are no strings or acts behind the magic curtain. You are only paying them to defend you which you could do yourself
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I got 4 total tickets last year on 2 occasions and nothing on my record. Get a lawyer and most likely you will not have to show up to court or do anything else. It does cost more but MOST likely no points and no extra car insurance is worth the extra cost IMO. YMMV
My state requires you answer the ticket in 15 days, so depending on your state laws I would get one right away and get the ball started. At least you won't have to think about it anymore. First lawyer I spent 300 and the 2nd lawyer I used was only 200 from a referral. I had to spend ~125 for each ticket, which was dropped to a cell phone violation and 1 ticket was dropped all together..
Good luck!
My state requires you answer the ticket in 15 days, so depending on your state laws I would get one right away and get the ball started. At least you won't have to think about it anymore. First lawyer I spent 300 and the 2nd lawyer I used was only 200 from a referral. I had to spend ~125 for each ticket, which was dropped to a cell phone violation and 1 ticket was dropped all together..
Good luck!
