Cooling package finally coming for C63
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Thanks for the warning. It's from a thread called "General announcements applicable to AMG owners." If they want to give me a hard time, I'll deal with the consequences.
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It's worded so as not to be an admission of a problem, but rather an optional upgrade to enhance cooling. However, they haven't said that it's not covered either, so once we start hearing back from dealers we will know more. I contacted mine this morning, and just waiting to hear back.
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It's worded so as not to be an admission of a problem, but rather an optional upgrade to enhance cooling. However, they haven't said that it's not covered either, so once we start hearing back from dealers we will know more. I contacted mine this morning, and just waiting to hear back.
Understood and thanks for the info. I guess the primary concern here is heat, and heat as we all know degrades performance and longevity of components so the argument could be made that this should be released as a TSB and remediated under warranty. If it is released as a "if you track your car" upgrade I suppose that is different.
I do however, find it difficult for AMG to present an argument that increased temperatures are not detrimental to engine longevity.
For those folks that have attended the AMG academy with face lifted cars did any ever go into limp mode?
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. Mostly you just saw the C63 Black Series on the actual track while I was there.
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Understood and thanks for the info. I guess the primary concern here is heat, and heat as we all know degrades performance and longevity of components so the argument could be made that this should be released as a TSB and remediated under warranty. If it is released as a "if you track your car" upgrade I suppose that is different.
I do however, find it difficult for AMG to present an argument that increased temperatures are not detrimental to engine longevity.
For those folks that have attended the AMG academy with face lifted cars did any ever go into limp mode?
I do however, find it difficult for AMG to present an argument that increased temperatures are not detrimental to engine longevity.
For those folks that have attended the AMG academy with face lifted cars did any ever go into limp mode?
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False. Only the BS doesn't have a cooling issue. This replaces both coolers with bigger ones and ducting to help direct air to them. Basically you are getting BS coolers and ducting to work with non-BS bumpers. Facelift cars just have the ADDITIONAL cooling issue of the MCT overheating also.
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False. Only the BS doesn't have a cooling issue. This replaces both coolers with bigger ones and ducting to help direct air to them. Basically you are getting BS coolers and ducting to work with non-BS bumpers. Facelift cars just have the ADDITIONAL cooling issue of the MCT overheating also.
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Yes. Especially on the track. On a 60 degree day with no traffic on the track, I easily hit 263. I was in traffic and then merged on the freeway today and hit 248 with a hard pull to get away from a cluster of morons trying to merge at 45 mph. Many people complain about oil temps and limp mode on the track and in hot countries, especially in the Private Lounge.
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Yes. Especially on the track. On a 60 degree day with no traffic on the track, I easily hit 263. I was in traffic and then merged on the freeway today and hit 248 with a hard pull to get away from a cluster of morons trying to merge at 45 mph. Many people complain about oil temps and limp mode on the track and in hot countries, especially in the Private Lounge.
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False. Only the BS doesn't have a cooling issue. This replaces both coolers with bigger ones and ducting to help direct air to them. Basically you are getting BS coolers and ducting to work with non-BS bumpers. Facelift cars just have the ADDITIONAL cooling issue of the MCT overheating also.
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Response from my dealer:
"This is the response from our AMG rep:
It is a little early to announce this enhancement for U.S. C63 models. From the MBUSA side we have to test this package. Then approve the procedure, create workshop instructions, define a process, work with the supply chain, legal, etc. Once we have finalized everything we will make an official announcement. Until then we have no ability to answer specific questions. So please stayed tuned. Thank you for being patient."
"This is the response from our AMG rep:
It is a little early to announce this enhancement for U.S. C63 models. From the MBUSA side we have to test this package. Then approve the procedure, create workshop instructions, define a process, work with the supply chain, legal, etc. Once we have finalized everything we will make an official announcement. Until then we have no ability to answer specific questions. So please stayed tuned. Thank you for being patient."
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Nevermind. Googled "916 engine support cooling" and found plenty of older C63s with that as a standard feature. Must relate to the normal cooling system.
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Someone on PL posted a response from their dealer basically stating pricing at $8000 CAD including installation after conversion from euro. Translates to roughly $7250 usd. So, much more than what people here paid for the upgrade to Black Series cooling including custom fab'd oil lines. If this pricing is accurate then not only is Mercedes making us pay for the fix, they appear to be seeking profit from it.
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unless you track your car you wont see cooling issues. It's not going to be free, a bulletin/tsb/recall or any of that. It's more of a hey guy, if you track your car and beat the snot out of it this would be a good idea.
