fly2nite

Might want to delete your verbatim copy paste of that posting and rephrase it, all posts from PL are proprietary and they will boot you.

whoover

Thanks for the warning. It's from a thread called "General announcements applicable to AMG owners." If they want to give me a hard time, I'll deal with the consequences.

Euler

My 2008 already has an oil cooler and fan in the right front with another in front of the main radiator. Is this a replacement?

fly2nite

Nope, this is a fix for the 2012+ (facelift) models. the prior model years did not have a cooling issue so no fix was necessary.

ParkerK

So if they admit an issue, and your car is under warranty, why would they not fix for free?

fly2nite

It's worded so as not to be an admission of a problem, but rather an optional upgrade to enhance cooling. However, they haven't said that it's not covered either, so once we start hearing back from dealers we will know more. I contacted mine this morning, and just waiting to hear back.

ParkerK

Understood and thanks for the info. I guess the primary concern here is heat, and heat as we all know degrades performance and longevity of components so the argument could be made that this should be released as a TSB and remediated under warranty. If it is released as a "if you track your car" upgrade I suppose that is different.


I do however, find it difficult for AMG to present an argument that increased temperatures are not detrimental to engine longevity.


For those folks that have attended the AMG academy with face lifted cars did any ever go into limp mode?

fly2nite

I attended Laguna Seca back in October last year and they did not use the regular C63s for the Academy other than a short course on recovering from a drift. Not enough action to heat them up. However, they did tell me that the regular C63s they do use at the Academy have modified oil coolers . Mostly you just saw the C63 Black Series on the actual track while I was there.

SaphGreyC63

We drove them on the track at The Auto Club Speedway. I don't know about any oil coolers but after we would do our two laps, they would have us park the cars on the far right each car next to a big fan blowing air......

fly2nite

Would be interested in hearing once any of you have gotten a response from your dealership.

chrisridebike8

False. Only the BS doesn't have a cooling issue. This replaces both coolers with bigger ones and ducting to help direct air to them. Basically you are getting BS coolers and ducting to work with non-BS bumpers. Facelift cars just have the ADDITIONAL cooling issue of the MCT overheating also.

anthonymckay

Looking forward to pricing on this

fly2nite

You've had the issue on your 10? I may have missed a few posts then, you're the first I've heard of prior to the facelift which is when the bumper air ducts to the front right wheel well were modified.

bhamg

One of the things I dislike about the PL that makes it the weenie refuge it is.

chrisridebike8

Yes. Especially on the track. On a 60 degree day with no traffic on the track, I easily hit 263. I was in traffic and then merged on the freeway today and hit 248 with a hard pull to get away from a cluster of morons trying to merge at 45 mph. Many people complain about oil temps and limp mode on the track and in hot countries, especially in the Private Lounge.

fly2nite

Ironic because the reason I like PL is the lack of mbworld-esque comments.

fly2nite

Interesting, well you should definitely see what your dealer says then. I am waiting on two dealers to respond to my inquiry. Have a feeling the information train is going to be rather slow on this one.

abcut973

I have the feeling this will only be for the facelift C63.
We shall see.

Case1906

^^^ yes!

fly2nite

Response from my dealer:

"This is the response from our AMG rep:
It is a little early to announce this enhancement for U.S. C63 models. From the MBUSA side we have to test this package. Then approve the procedure, create workshop instructions, define a process, work with the supply chain, legal, etc. Once we have finalized everything we will make an official announcement. Until then we have no ability to answer specific questions. So please stayed tuned. Thank you for being patient."

cacmf

Recently built a MY15 W204 507 coupe and saw "916 engine support cooling" as standard option on the build sheet. Wondering if it has anything to do with this.

rickclass

That's interesting....Standard on 2015 , but $8000.00 for anyone to retrofit?

fly2nite

LOL wow. Got a copy of that anywhere?

Nevermind. Googled "916 engine support cooling" and found plenty of older C63s with that as a standard feature. Must relate to the normal cooling system.

fly2nite

Someone on PL posted a response from their dealer basically stating pricing at $8000 CAD including installation after conversion from euro. Translates to roughly $7250 usd. So, much more than what people here paid for the upgrade to Black Series cooling including custom fab'd oil lines. If this pricing is accurate then not only is Mercedes making us pay for the fix, they appear to be seeking profit from it.

roadtalontsi

unless you track your car you wont see cooling issues. It's not going to be free, a bulletin/tsb/recall or any of that. It's more of a hey guy, if you track your car and beat the snot out of it this would be a good idea.