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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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Exclamation I need help with my tires on my 2009 C63 with brabus wheels (PIC)

Hi guys, I recently changed my tires and it keeps scraping on stock suspension.

My previous rear tires were michelin pilot super sports.

Now my current rear tires are michelin pilot AS3.

Both 275/30/19

But now, my rear tires keep scraping on the quarter panel like the picture... I took it to the dealership and they said my suspension is perfectly fine.

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Any ideas on how to fix this rubbing issue? brabus wheels are 9.5 rear, 45 offset all around.


Thanks so much
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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Will getting an alignment or tire balancing fix this?
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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You on springs or coilovers?
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
You on springs or coilovers?
Hello purpleheartamg I am on stock suspension so springs
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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That looks pretty low to be a complete OEM setup.

The only noise you hear is rubbing right? No clunking or anything crazy?
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
That looks pretty low to be a complete OEM setup.

The only noise you hear is rubbing right? No clunking or anything crazy?
Yeah no clunking or anything, only tire rubbing when i go over bumps kinda fast like 10-15mph but before i used to be able to go over bumps at like 20-25 mph without any problems. tire is 275/30/19 and my wheels are 9.5 rear, 45 offset all around.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
That looks pretty low to be a complete OEM setup.

The only noise you hear is rubbing right? No clunking or anything crazy?
Yeah i know, this is completely stock OEM. I even took it to the mechanics they said i had no suspension problems it was perfectly fine
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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seems you have an aggressive offset
the wheel guys can chime in more
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:15 PM
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that height is nuts; i find it hard to believe that this stock set up is problem-free. but if it is, i would think you would need to lathe off some of the mating surface of your wheel to reduce the offset.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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Factory offset for 18" and 19" wheels is 45 front but 54 rear. That spec would move your tire in by about 1/3". If you have room on the inside, that's the most likely explanation. I know that's not a real helpful fact now that you have your wheels. (Factory 19's are 9", wearing 255/30-19, so it's not absolutely certain that even 9.5 with 54 would solve the problem, but it's a fact that all rear C63 factory wheels are 54mm offset rear.)

By the way, it's very common to find one brand of tire a little wider than another.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by m a x i m u s
that height is nuts; i find it hard to believe that this stock set up is problem-free. but if it is, i would think you would need to lathe off some of the mating surface of your wheel to reduce the offset.
Well it looks like this normally




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Also on left side of the car I can stick two fingers between the gap of the wheel and fender, but on the right side I can stick only one finger
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by m a x i m u s
that height is nuts; i find it hard to believe that this stock set up is problem-free. but if it is, i would think you would need to lathe off some of the mating surface of your wheel to reduce the offset.
The height is hard to gauge because of the angle the picture is taken at. If the camera were held lower and back a bit, it would probably look more normal.
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Originally Posted by socalwdup
Also on left side of the car I can stick two fingers between the gap of the wheel and fender, but on the right side I can stick only one finger
Uh, that's not right.

I'd take it to another mechanic who will admit that's not right.
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Originally Posted by socalwdup
Also on left side of the car I can stick two fingers between the gap of the wheel and fender, but on the right side I can stick only one finger
I'm thinking that CAN'T be right...
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I'm thinking that CAN'T be right...
wtf i took it to my dealership
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Originally Posted by whoover
The height is hard to gauge because of the angle the picture is taken at. If the camera were held lower and back a bit, it would probably look more normal.

wait let me go take some normal pictures on a level surface give me like 5 minutes brb pulling it out of the garage and taking normal pics
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Originally Posted by socalwdup
Also on left side of the car I can stick two fingers between the gap of the wheel and fender, but on the right side I can stick only one finger
With the updated pictures I am surprised you have rubbing issues.

As for the gap, before jumping the gun saying something is wrong, do you have any additional weight in the car/trunk on a particular side of the car and did you take the pictures on level ground?

Still scratching my head as to how you are rubbing with that much room. For reference, here were my rears when I had them and rubbed once on sloped shoulder...

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Originally Posted by socalwdup
wait let me go take some normal pictures on a level surface give me like 5 minutes brb pulling it out of the garage and taking normal pics
Ha posted same time. Yes, go see what it is like on a level surface.

Take a shot like the one I posted as well!!!! (Shouting so maybe you hear me while you're outside...)
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Ok this is the right side where it rubs the most




this is the left side





I edited it for your convenience so you can tell more easier
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the finger gauge method isnt always accurate. besides, the ground isnt always perfectly flat, and also none of these cars are perfectly even side to side. at least that's what ive seen.
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Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
With the updated pictures I am surprised you have rubbing issues.

As for the gap, before jumping the gun saying something is wrong, do you have any additional weight in the car/trunk on a particular side of the car and did you take the pictures on level ground?

Still scratching my head as to how you are rubbing with that much room. For reference, here were my rears when I had them and rubbed once on sloped shoulder...


No I only have an umbrella in my trunk
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Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG



like this??

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With your new pictures the height looks fine. Also, the Brabus wheel only comes out an additional 15mm from OEM spec.

Honestly, I have no idea why you're rubbing. Maybe because you're going over bumps at 15mph. When you're driving down the highway and street (no bumps) you aren't rubbing correct?

Also, over those bumps, any passengers in the car?

Edit - yup, thats the pic I wanted. Still looks like there is plenty of room to me
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Originally Posted by PurpleHeartAMG
With your new pictures the height looks fine. Also, the Brabus wheel only comes out an additional 15mm from OEM spec.

Honestly, I have no idea why you're rubbing. Maybe because you're going over bumps at 15mph. When you're driving down the highway and street (no bumps) you aren't rubbing correct?

Also, over those bumps, any passengers in the car?

Edit - yup, thats the pic I wanted. Still looks like there is plenty of room to me
Yeah I have no idea either this never happened and I don't want my bumper popping out due to me not seeing a bump and accidentally blowing it out

When I drive off the freeway ramp that's in a sharp corner/circle and on a decline, my tires rub. this is my DD so I want to be able to drive it comfortably without any rubbing issues idk what's going wrong! The tires I've had before were michelin pilot super sports but on tirerack they were out of stock until 6/1/14 and my tires were bald so I just got the AS3.
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