Stage 3 BMW M4 F82 vs. Stage 3 MB C63AMG BlackSeries
#2
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Stage 3 C63 Black Series...what kind of "Stage 3"??? Now way that is a Wesitec Stage 3, my Stage 30 can hit 300 kph in under 30 seconds and that BMW could not get over 280 in over 36 seconds and that was a roll.
#3
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Take into account these are cars from different decades.
It's like comparing an E46 M3 to C63 Black Series.
Also the Twin Turbo engines are easily modifiable.
Can't wait to see the new 4.0TT in stage 3 form
It's like comparing an E46 M3 to C63 Black Series.
Also the Twin Turbo engines are easily modifiable.
Can't wait to see the new 4.0TT in stage 3 form
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#4
Senior Member
Agree.
I posted a question :
I posted a question :
Curious to have more information about the mods,
- PP does not exist for C63 BS , only regular C63
- what do you call Stage 3 ? Weistec Stage 3 on C63 BS is 769 HP and approx 900Nm of torque, so Stage 3 with only 600HP and 680Nm of torque seems strange
- speed seems not to climb very fast on the video.
- PP does not exist for C63 BS , only regular C63
- what do you call Stage 3 ? Weistec Stage 3 on C63 BS is 769 HP and approx 900Nm of torque, so Stage 3 with only 600HP and 680Nm of torque seems strange
- speed seems not to climb very fast on the video.
#5
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lol where's the intercooler on the CBS? From the sound of it, the C63 didn't even have headers. Perhaps a tune and that's it.
The M3/4 is light, it will definitely help. But I have a strong feeling that the C63 was not modded all that much.
The M3/4 is light, it will definitely help. But I have a strong feeling that the C63 was not modded all that much.
#6
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Can I laugh?? ![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
not to disrespect the new M3/M4 which I test drove. That car has probably potential based off their turbo engine but in no way that C63 BS was a stage 3 of what sort.
That car was probably stock or with issues!lol! Too quiet for a C63 with headers. I found as well that the M was being slow to reach 280km/h.
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not to disrespect the new M3/M4 which I test drove. That car has probably potential based off their turbo engine but in no way that C63 BS was a stage 3 of what sort.
That car was probably stock or with issues!lol! Too quiet for a C63 with headers. I found as well that the M was being slow to reach 280km/h.
#7
MBWorld Fanatic!
Can I laugh?? ![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
not to disrespect the new M3/M4 which I test drove. That car has probably potential based off their turbo engine but in no way that C63 BS was a stage 3 of what sort.
That car was probably stock or with issues!lol! Too quiet for a C63 with headers. I found as well that the M was being slow to reach 280km/h.
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
not to disrespect the new M3/M4 which I test drove. That car has probably potential based off their turbo engine but in no way that C63 BS was a stage 3 of what sort.
That car was probably stock or with issues!lol! Too quiet for a C63 with headers. I found as well that the M was being slow to reach 280km/h.
Stage 2 - P31/507 C63
Stage 3 - CBS
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#9
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Can I laugh?? ![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
not to disrespect the new M3/M4 which I test drove. That car has probably potential based off their turbo engine but in no way that C63 BS was a stage 3 of what sort.
That car was probably stock or with issues!lol! Too quiet for a C63 with headers. I found as well that the M was being slow to reach 280km/h.
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
not to disrespect the new M3/M4 which I test drove. That car has probably potential based off their turbo engine but in no way that C63 BS was a stage 3 of what sort.
That car was probably stock or with issues!lol! Too quiet for a C63 with headers. I found as well that the M was being slow to reach 280km/h.
I have no clue. I just posted a video that i saw. I honestly dont know what stage 3 and any other details other than the ones i saw in that video. Its not my car, neither is it owned by someone i know. Trust me it would make me happier to know that its not true. lol
#10
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Thread Starter
video description says
BMW M4 F82 with PP-Performance Stage 3 599HP 740NM !!!
MB C63 AMG BlackSeries PP-Performance Stage 3 600HP 680NM !!! we race from 60 till 280km/h
So its not a wesitec Stage 3
BMW M4 F82 with PP-Performance Stage 3 599HP 740NM !!!
MB C63 AMG BlackSeries PP-Performance Stage 3 600HP 680NM !!! we race from 60 till 280km/h
So its not a wesitec Stage 3