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For those of you running aftermarket wheels and tires on your Black Series, could you share details regarding your setup? I'm brainstorming for my next set of wheels and tires, and I want them to be performance orientated (lighter, more grip) over the OEM setup. I'd like to run 265s in the front and 305s in the rear. Any advice would be much appreciated.
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I would say to have a 305 in the back you need to go for 11 x 19" not 20" and an offset of 52.
I would say 265 is possible on 9 x 19" in front with 20/25 offset.
I would say 265 is possible on 9 x 19" in front with 20/25 offset.
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I couldn't get 305's to work out back without rubbing over hard bumps. Was rubbing on inside, so slowly spaced it out and started rubbing on the outside. Ended up going with 295s instead. 265s work perfect up front, no rub whatsoever.
305s work fine if you're taking it easy on the street and driving hard in a straight line. Just be careful over bumps and you're good to go. It'll only rub on bumps, and some cornering scenarios. I'm too picky with rub, so I settled on 295s. My setup doesn't rub at all regardless of how I drive the car.
I'm out of town right now but will give you my wheel specs when I get home.
305s work fine if you're taking it easy on the street and driving hard in a straight line. Just be careful over bumps and you're good to go. It'll only rub on bumps, and some cornering scenarios. I'm too picky with rub, so I settled on 295s. My setup doesn't rub at all regardless of how I drive the car.
I'm out of town right now but will give you my wheel specs when I get home.
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I purchased aftermarket forged wheels for my winter setup (yes, my BS sees snow), but didn't alter the tire sizes. It turns out that the forged wheels I looked at were not much lighter than OEM.
And yes, my SUV has a smaller turning radius.
And yes, my SUV has a smaller turning radius.
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It's sad to hear we can't fit 305 tires in the rear of the BS w/o rubbing 
Nelly, stop the teasing.. Which monoblock HRE are u getting? 19's this time? Any takers for ur S101 yet?
Nelly, stop the teasing.. Which monoblock HRE are u getting? 19's this time? Any takers for ur S101 yet?
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I am also in the same situation, I even thought about leaving the front alone and only use a 295/30/19 ad08r for the rear stock wheel but apparently the rear is a 19x9.5? (If someone can confirm) and 295 needs a 10inch wheel at minimum. I haven't looked too closely since it is getting wrapped in paint protection films so once that is done I will definitely take a closer look.
I do not know what tires you guys had when the car came with but here in Asia I received continental 5p both in sedan and black series so I am not looking forward to use those tires for too long but 285/30/19 is definitely a hinderance for actual street performance. I read some other members ran 20s in 325 and it somewhat rubbed so I fully expect a 305/30/19 (which is a 911 rear size) to fit without rubbing is possible, I will definitely know more once I lift it on a rack and take a closer look. My current thought is a set of 19s in HRE P43SC to run as wide as possible so if other black series owners can share some feedback would be great.
Side note, since I am installing paint protection films on the entire car, it was a shame to discover the canards are not capable to be fully removed since there are plates blocking in the back which are revited on the back side of the bumper, it blocks access to the last clip on the lower canard and upper canard. So canard instllation looks to be an after thought job done at the factory, just a heads up to other owners.
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I do not know what tires you guys had when the car came with but here in Asia I received continental 5p both in sedan and black series so I am not looking forward to use those tires for too long but 285/30/19 is definitely a hinderance for actual street performance. I read some other members ran 20s in 325 and it somewhat rubbed so I fully expect a 305/30/19 (which is a 911 rear size) to fit without rubbing is possible, I will definitely know more once I lift it on a rack and take a closer look. My current thought is a set of 19s in HRE P43SC to run as wide as possible so if other black series owners can share some feedback would be great.
Side note, since I am installing paint protection films on the entire car, it was a shame to discover the canards are not capable to be fully removed since there are plates blocking in the back which are revited on the back side of the bumper, it blocks access to the last clip on the lower canard and upper canard. So canard instllation looks to be an after thought job done at the factory, just a heads up to other owners.
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Nelly - If you are looking for extreme lightweight - Im sure BBS can build a set of FI-R's.
I had the opportunity to see these bad boys up close and they are a special wheel to say the least. Top 3 all time for me.
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Thanks for all the replies! 
I was running 265 fronts (10") and 295 rears (11") PSS tires on my 20" S101 wheels with no rubbing no matter how hard I drove the car. Tons of grip. I decided for my next setup I'll run 265/35/19 front (10") and 295/30/19 rear (11") with PSS tires and titanium lugs on a forged monoblock wheel. That should be as light as OEM but with more grip.
As for my next wheel choice, it'll most likely be a set of HREs but BBS is also an option.
Still no buyer for my S101s. I'm tempted to put them back on the car in the mean time but Michelin PSS 295/25/20 is on back order nationwide.
I was running 265 fronts (10") and 295 rears (11") PSS tires on my 20" S101 wheels with no rubbing no matter how hard I drove the car. Tons of grip. I decided for my next setup I'll run 265/35/19 front (10") and 295/30/19 rear (11") with PSS tires and titanium lugs on a forged monoblock wheel. That should be as light as OEM but with more grip.
As for my next wheel choice, it'll most likely be a set of HREs but BBS is also an option.
Still no buyer for my S101s. I'm tempted to put them back on the car in the mean time but Michelin PSS 295/25/20 is on back order nationwide.
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S101's are bad *** wheels buddy. A set of brushed S101's on your white BS would be stellar imho.
Thanks for all the replies!
I was running 265 fronts (10") and 295 rears (11") PSS tires on my 20" S101 wheels with no rubbing no matter how hard I drove the car. Tons of grip. I decided for my next setup I'll run 265/35/19 front (10") and 295/30/19 rear (11") with PSS tires and titanium lugs on a forged monoblock wheel. That should be as light as OEM but with more grip.
As for my next wheel choice, it'll most likely be a set of HREs but BBS is also an option.
Still no buyer for my S101s. I'm tempted to put them back on the car in the mean time but Michelin PSS 295/25/20 is on back order nationwide.
I was running 265 fronts (10") and 295 rears (11") PSS tires on my 20" S101 wheels with no rubbing no matter how hard I drove the car. Tons of grip. I decided for my next setup I'll run 265/35/19 front (10") and 295/30/19 rear (11") with PSS tires and titanium lugs on a forged monoblock wheel. That should be as light as OEM but with more grip.
As for my next wheel choice, it'll most likely be a set of HREs but BBS is also an option.
Still no buyer for my S101s. I'm tempted to put them back on the car in the mean time but Michelin PSS 295/25/20 is on back order nationwide.
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I run 305 on a 12x19 Klassen M-52R. Car is lowered about 18mm and tracked(hard) on a regular basis with no rubbing issues whatsoever. Not sure why some of the other guys claim to have rubbing issues, they must have gone with the inccorect offset or backspacing or something. DO NOT GO WITH 20's!!!
Side note my rear Klassens are actually a couple ounces heavier than the factory forged BS wheels, most likelty due to them being a couple inches wider than the stock. The foactry wheels are very light and difficult to beat the weight of.
Side note my rear Klassens are actually a couple ounces heavier than the factory forged BS wheels, most likelty due to them being a couple inches wider than the stock. The foactry wheels are very light and difficult to beat the weight of.
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I couldn't get 305's to work out back without rubbing over hard bumps. Was rubbing on inside, so slowly spaced it out and started rubbing on the outside. Ended up going with 295s instead. 265s work perfect up front, no rub whatsoever.
305s work fine if you're taking it easy on the street and driving hard in a straight line. Just be careful over bumps and you're good to go. It'll only rub on bumps, and some cornering scenarios. I'm too picky with rub, so I settled on 295s. My setup doesn't rub at all regardless of how I drive the car.
I'm out of town right now but will give you my wheel specs when I get home.
305s work fine if you're taking it easy on the street and driving hard in a straight line. Just be careful over bumps and you're good to go. It'll only rub on bumps, and some cornering scenarios. I'm too picky with rub, so I settled on 295s. My setup doesn't rub at all regardless of how I drive the car.
I'm out of town right now but will give you my wheel specs when I get home.
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Sidewall profile on various tire makes play a factor as well. Some tires have a stiff squared sidewall, which sometimes cause rubbing. Others have narrower more rounded side walls which give way for some extra clearance.
A few variables to be taken into consideration, I'm sure a 305 can fit at the back of the CBS.
A few variables to be taken into consideration, I'm sure a 305 can fit at the back of the CBS.
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Kriston,
that is
a.) an opinion, and
b.) an unreasonable generalization.
Don't get me wrong, I like BBS. But statements like those above are not really helping.
that is
a.) an opinion, and
b.) an unreasonable generalization.
Don't get me wrong, I like BBS. But statements like those above are not really helping.
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Hey Wobble,
Not sure why you are upset, its the truth not my opinion.
There's a handful of original equipment manufacturers that supply your stock wheels to many large automobile companies. BBS being the largest of the bunch, Rays Engineering / Enkei are 2 other brands that make many original equipment wheels.
Why I say they are second to none? BBS / Enkei and Rays have put in the time and resources to continue to push the envelope for wheel manufacturing.
Im not talking about your flavour of the day design, I'm talking about investing in new composite research / weight reduction all while strengthening the wheel.
Please do some research and you will see for yourself.
Don't get me wrong I like HRE and BBS, but on a global level. There really is no comparison.
http://www.bbs-usa.com/oem.cfm
Not sure why you are upset, its the truth not my opinion.
There's a handful of original equipment manufacturers that supply your stock wheels to many large automobile companies. BBS being the largest of the bunch, Rays Engineering / Enkei are 2 other brands that make many original equipment wheels.
Why I say they are second to none? BBS / Enkei and Rays have put in the time and resources to continue to push the envelope for wheel manufacturing.
Im not talking about your flavour of the day design, I'm talking about investing in new composite research / weight reduction all while strengthening the wheel.
Please do some research and you will see for yourself.
Don't get me wrong I like HRE and BBS, but on a global level. There really is no comparison.
http://www.bbs-usa.com/oem.cfm
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I run 305 on a 12x19 Klassen M-52R. Car is lowered about 18mm and tracked(hard) on a regular basis with no rubbing issues whatsoever. Not sure why some of the other guys claim to have rubbing issues, they must have gone with the inccorect offset or backspacing or something. DO NOT GO WITH 20's!!!
Side note my rear Klassens are actually a couple ounces heavier than the factory forged BS wheels, most likelty due to them being a couple inches wider than the stock. The foactry wheels are very light and difficult to beat the weight of.
Side note my rear Klassens are actually a couple ounces heavier than the factory forged BS wheels, most likelty due to them being a couple inches wider than the stock. The foactry wheels are very light and difficult to beat the weight of.
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Kriston,
I was not upset at all. I just wanted to suggest to be way more specific with inputs, like which specific wheel with what dimensions/offset works particularly well for a certain use (daily street, track, etc.) rather than saying BBS (or any other brand) are the best in general. It depends on many things. That is all.
I was not upset at all. I just wanted to suggest to be way more specific with inputs, like which specific wheel with what dimensions/offset works particularly well for a certain use (daily street, track, etc.) rather than saying BBS (or any other brand) are the best in general. It depends on many things. That is all.
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Hey bud,
I made a wheel suggestion and posted pics above in post #10.
In terms of sizing I cannot speak to that as I do not have direct experience with the BS.
If you are looking for wheel options for your car, it may not be the same as the factory spec CBS. The rears axles are from an E class platform. I'm unsure if you changed that as well when you did the conversion. The mounting points for the suspension are also different.
All of these play a factor on custom
Sizing and offsets. If you are looking for new wheels, please feel free to message me. I would be happy to help.
I made a wheel suggestion and posted pics above in post #10.
In terms of sizing I cannot speak to that as I do not have direct experience with the BS.
If you are looking for wheel options for your car, it may not be the same as the factory spec CBS. The rears axles are from an E class platform. I'm unsure if you changed that as well when you did the conversion. The mounting points for the suspension are also different.
All of these play a factor on custom
Sizing and offsets. If you are looking for new wheels, please feel free to message me. I would be happy to help.
Kriston,
I was not upset at all. I just wanted to suggest to be way more specific with inputs, like which specific wheel with what dimensions/offset works particularly well for a certain use (daily street, track, etc.) rather than saying BBS (or any other brand) are the best in general. It depends on many things. That is all.
I was not upset at all. I just wanted to suggest to be way more specific with inputs, like which specific wheel with what dimensions/offset works particularly well for a certain use (daily street, track, etc.) rather than saying BBS (or any other brand) are the best in general. It depends on many things. That is all.
Last edited by Kriston; Jan 17, 2015 at 04:49 PM.
