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P.S you just joined in march 2015, talk about someone who doesn't know much.
And yet you have 1k+ posts and think you bolted on 200hp.
Dyno's are tuning tools. Take it to the local 1/4 mile and lets us know what you trap. Trap speeds filter out the bs rather well.
Back to the OP:
Tuned for tuned, from what I have seen posted about the tuned F80's, it's going to be a tough run for a C63. ~124-127 traps from the BMW seem to be the range. Stock vs stock, my money is on C63.
And yet you have 1k+ posts and think you bolted on 200hp.
Dyno's are tuning tools. Take it to the local 1/4 mile and lets us know what you trap. Trap speeds filter out the bs rather well.
Back to the OP:
Tuned for tuned, from what I have seen posted about the tuned F80's, it's going to be a tough run for a C63. ~124-127 traps from the BMW seem to be the range. Stock vs stock, my money is on C63.
a TUNE + Exhaust + ROW Boxes + Headers + 1-2 other bolt on's would be ROUGHLY 150-200 WHP
538 CRANK HP = roughly 430-450 WHP ...WOW IS THAT SO HOW TO COMPREHEND? WITH JUST A TUNE...Come on buddy - 20% Loss and you can't believe a C63 can have 430-450whp with just a tune
you don't know anything about C63's you don't even own one, 500whp is NOT hard to get on a N/A C63 - Look at jcart, the guys running 1400hp on his AMG and yet it's so hard for your brain to comphrend 500whp with a few bolt ons? Pal, These are 6.2L ENGINES, Not some cheap honda imported from korea
Whats next your going to say the AMG-GTS didn't run 472WHP STOCK? Please.
562 BHP with tune+straight pipes so roughly 460-470 WHEEL HORSE POWER. Eurocharge is one of the lower tunes too, OE is another 10-20whp over EC - Wait, theres probably a 200-300 HP loss in your eyes right? So 562BHP to you is probably what 200-250 whp?
Last edited by avery.whss; 03-20-2015 at 12:43 PM.
i said around 600whp if i added headers, and i've already posted the dyno sheet when i had my car dyno'd with just a tune..what don't you get, i had it dyno'd with a TUNE ONLY and it ran 486 WHP, since then i've added a exhaust, air intake, pulley and a few other things, i haven't gotten it dyno'd in like 1.5-2 years since
my city doesn't even have a race track, im not going to go out of my way to try and prove myself to some internet tough guy, some of us have better stuff to do then hit the track and try and act alpha
P.S congrats on buying an AMERICAN PRODUCT and modding it with AMERICAN parts that cost next to nothing, Ohh wow 680whp out of a dodge hemi...theres a 600WHP granny car online
Surely you can show me one NA C63 dyno near 600whp with bolt on's?
And i think you have the Hemi confused with LSX's and Mustangs, cause i'm fairly certain they're far from cheap to mod... lol
But again, what do I know.
Surely you can show me one NA C63 dyno near 600whp with bolt on's?
And i think you have the Hemi confused with LSX's and Mustangs, cause i'm fairly certain they're far from cheap to mod... lol
But again, what do I know.
even worse, LSX and mustangs have been around for 30+ years, I highly doubt headers for a dodge cost 4grand unlike the C63 , hell im pretty sure renntech sells C63 headers for almost 9k
without headers or exhaust, What don't you get, a after market exhaust and headers make more HP then just headers and a stock exhaust, not many guys have a after market exhaust + headers, it's either exhaust OR headers, not both
i mean we have many forum threads on here about guys crying over what tune to get, and you expect me to show you a guy whos modded out his C63 on this forum? Lol..............................................G uys on this forum can't even get their own damn tire size right, what makes you think they'll be chucking a bunch of mods on it?
listen, it isn't my fault you guys drive like grandmas in your "ooooo c class mercedes" ..maybe stop caring so much and attempt to blow the thing up so you can experience it's full power, Don't believe me? Drive the car tuned for 3 months, then chuck on a fresh tune file, the car is a hell of a lot more responsive because it ADAPTS to your driving habbits, so yeah no **** if your C63 NEVER see's WOT it's going to run like crap on the dyno or 1/4
Last edited by avery.whss; 03-20-2015 at 02:08 PM.
If only there were a C63 that had been NA modded to hell and back that gave us the numbers... oh wait! Dads C63 had everything! Heads, cams, airboxes, headers, tune, racegas, etc. and he made around 500 whp. 700 whp on spray. You don't add numbers up when they come to modding. 100 hp for headers and 20 hp for airboxes are each separately compared to stock. Together they may only make 105 hp gain over stock. And that 100 hp figure you are talking about with headers is most certainly with a tune. So you can't just add all of them together and claim 600 whp. A modded M159 barely makes that woth weistec's insane headers. And the M159 has a different intake system. Wake up, bro.
If only there were a C63 that had been NA modded to hell and back that gave us the numbers... oh wait! Dads C63 had everything! Heads, cams, airboxes, headers, tune, racegas, etc. and he made around 500 whp. 700 whp on spray. You don't add numbers up when they come to modding. 100 hp for headers and 20 hp for airboxes are each separately compared to stock. Together they may only make 105 hp gain over stock. And that 100 hp figure you are talking about with headers is most certainly with a tune. So you can't just add all of them together and claim 600 whp. A modded M159 barely makes that woth weistec's insane headers. And the M159 has a different intake system. Wake up, bro.
Ok, I'll be sure to tell my friend with a heavily moddified R32 GTR thats been Vbox verified that my car puts down <450WHP and yet some how i still pull him off the line with him lauching at 6K, I'll make sure to record him laughing his *** off at you idiots,
You guys are so fuking brain dead, theres a post of a guy with 562BHP WITH A TUNE AND CAT DELETE LOL, And you claim that 562HP won't make 460-470 WHP...PLEASE send me whatever it is you guys smoke or drink, PLEASE, Wait let me guess...a C63 AMG has a 50% Loss right? Because we all know that 538 CRANK HP = 300 WHP
I'm glad i stopped coming on this forum so much, you guys are so brain dead it isn't even funny anymore, no wonder all the decent members left,
P.S Mike, I posted a link to a guy running 562 BHP with a tune and straight pipes, But yet some how in your little mind if you add headers and custom exhaust work, 550whp-600whp isn't possible...OKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Hey it aint my fault you guys live cities with thick *** air polluted full of junk, why do you think they put turbos on everything now? because the air we breathe is so garbage that even the cars don't stay consistant.
@chrisridebike8 big deal, theres a few guys in alberta 1 province over from me who have headers, exhaust, tune and run 300-350whp ...all because they live 20,000 feet in the moutians ..whats your point? these are N/A engines that breathe air..it does effect it, it doesn't have 2 turbos forcing air down it's throat
Last edited by avery.whss; 03-20-2015 at 02:18 PM.
Pulling on a 6k rpm launching GT-r off the line ...lol
Get's better with every posts.
https://i.imgur.com/zqC2pdy.png hey man it came from his mouth, i running bald tires too...get rekt kid, he even admits he wound his car right up, 3rd gear came and i pulled him, he's doing a stroker kit to it now, maybe he'll pull me off the line after it's rebuilt
pretty sure i have a text of the stage 2 M3 talking trash after we raced too some where, give me a bit to look through my phones and ill post it up,
Actually nevermind, the friend in the GTR witnessed me walk a S/C'd M3
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Avery, you need to wake up bro. With every post, you look more and more foolish. Especially with the personal attacks. If you have 600whp, then show us. Otherwise don't come in here spouting what's clearly nonsense, to people who know better than you. You just have HP mixed with WHP. It's ok.
Avery, you need to wake up bro. With every post, you look more and more foolish. Especially with the personal attacks. If you have 600whp, then show us. Otherwise don't come in here spouting what's clearly nonsense, to people who know better than you. You just have HP mixed with WHP. It's ok.
i said i have probably around 550whp now with the other mods ive done since i dyno'd, ive had a custom exhaust and some other things done since i've dyno'd it 2 years ago ...if i added headers i said it'd probably be close to 600whp
and im not a push over, if someone wants to call me and my friends a liar then their stupid as **** and don't even deserve an ounce of respect. it's that simple, i'm not going to let some human being try and belittle me
i provided PROOF and you guys seem to be blind or cannot read..not my problem
and nope, i know exactly what crank HP and WHP is, it's you retards who think a modern AMG has a 25%+ crank to WHP loss..not me, go online and find a converter and type in 562 CRANK HP and come back with the corrected WHP for the AMG, I'm going to guess it's roughly 450-470 WHP ...but yet some how 500WHP+ isn't "possible" with a custom exhaust, stright pipes, row boxes, pulley, and a few other engine mods...OK
not my fault you guys live in cities with polluated air that makes your car run like junk, maybe go drive by a ocean once in awhile and see the difference with cold crisp air VS crappy garbage city air.
Last edited by avery.whss; 03-20-2015 at 03:46 PM.
Anyway I havent raced an M3/M4 yet but it will be a hell of a race for me. I have full bolt-ons and giggle juice and I put down 580whp. M3/M4's with E85 running an aggressive map have put down 600whp..
Dont know about you guys, but I'm counting down the days until I get into a M157 or a 2016 C63..
Looking at recent c&d m3 dct test result, I think it will be a close call. It seems that m3 dct is a bit faster than stock c63 507
I agree, but the C&D review of the 2012 C63 Coupe with the PP had it running about even with the current M3 DCT.
I own an M4 and my wife has a 2012 C63 sedan with PP. I believe that with a tune (particularly one that speeds up the MCT shifts) the C63 can at least stay even with and likely might edge out a stock M3/4.
i said i have probably around 550whp now with the other mods ive done since i dyno'd, ive had a custom exhaust and some other things done since i've dyno'd it 2 years ago ...if i added headers i said it'd probably be close to 600whp
and im not a push over, if someone wants to call me and my friends a liar then their stupid as **** and don't even deserve an ounce of respect. it's that simple, i'm not going to let some human being try and belittle me
i provided PROOF and you guys seem to be blind or cannot read..not my problem
and nope, i know exactly what crank HP and WHP is, it's you retards who think a modern AMG has a 25%+ crank to WHP loss..not me, go online and find a converter and type in 562 CRANK HP and come back with the corrected WHP for the AMG, I'm going to guess it's roughly 450-470 WHP ...but yet some how 500WHP+ isn't "possible" with a custom exhaust, stright pipes, row boxes, pulley, and a few other engine mods...OK
not my fault you guys live in cities with polluated air that makes your car run like junk, maybe go drive by a ocean once in awhile and see the difference with cold crisp air VS crappy garbage city air.
Avery mthis on this forum is the fastest guy on mbworld with a n/a car and his barley making 500rwhp and his car is almost stripped then he runs at the track
600 hp is a bit big jump and can only be done with a blower or nos
480to 500hp is e absolute limit you can make without opening up the engine
I believe you have about 480-500hp but if you have anymore then that you are lying
without headers or exhaust, What don't you get, a after market exhaust and headers make more HP then just headers and a stock exhaust, not many guys have a after market exhaust + headers, it's either exhaust OR headers, not both
Xtyper's(Eric) car was with headers and a catless X pipe into the stock mufflers. Those numbers were not on his usual dyno. He went back to his usual shop and got the following.
So after my surprising 500whp dyno pull at MD Automotive last week, I had a chance to re-visit my usual shop (Specialty Z in Chatsworth, CA) yesterday afternoon to verify the results. As expected, the numbers were lower but proved amazingly consistent with my last pulls done here. Again the best pull came in at 472whp/430wtq SAE corrected
Xtyper's(Eric) car was with headers and a catless X pipe into the stock mufflers. Those numbers were not on his usual dyno. He went back to his usual shop and got the following.
I owned a C63 for 3 years, been a member for 10 and I have never seen a 600 rwhp N/A C63 and I probably never will.
How's it going Mike? It's good to see you back on here!
There's no reasoning with Avery. He refuses to take his car to the strip, but he'll take his car to the shop with the most overly optimistic dyno to get his inflated numbers and brag about it. I'm honestly surprised that he didn't say that with LT's, he'll have 650 RWHP. He has previously stated that LT's will give you 100 rwhp, and he currently has 550rwhp with just tune and some exhaust work. In his mind 550 rwhp + 100 rwhp = 600 rwhp. lolz
03-20-2015, 09:49 AM
oh wait! Dads C63 had everything! Heads, cams, airboxes, headers, tune, racegas, etc. and he made around 500 whp. 700 whp on spray. You don't add numbers up when they come to modding. 100 hp for headers and 20 hp for airboxes are each separately compared to stock. Together they may only make 105 hp gain over stock. And that 100 hp figure you are talking about with headers is most certainly with a tune. So you can't just add all of them together and claim 600 whp. A modded M159 barely makes that woth weistec's insane headers. And the M159 has a different intake system. Wake up, bro.
