Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
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You mentioned -3.8° front camber. What's the rest of your specs?
I was planning on giving this a try as a starting point.
F Camber: -4°
F Toe: 0
R Camber: -3°
R Toe: 1/8" Toe In
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Dont give it to much Camber in front. -3.8 is too much for me. I will lower it. -3.5 front and -2.5 rear would be great.
If you only track it, give the front a little bit toe out. Back Toe in is good.
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New wheels will happen when I chop out the rear fenders but that's so far down the priority list.
You saw the interior pic right? lol. This is a track only trailer to/from.
What suspension are you running?
Why are you reducing from -3.8 to -3.5? Too much inside wear on the track or because you still drive it on the street?
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I drive a KW Clubsport. But now I change to a KW Competition 2a.
Tire temperature measured and wear pattern viewed. With the Toyo I do not yet completely drive off the outer flank. The tyre is not fully used. Same in the back. I reduce from 2.7 to 2.5.
More camber is not always good. You have to look at the tire temperature, air pressure and then the outside flanks when you drive. If there is still space up to the flank, reduce the camber until the complete tyre is used.
In addition, too much camber is extremely disturbing when braking on the straight before the corner.
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There are enough people in Germany who still drive such a car on the road ![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I drive a KW Clubsport. But now I change to a KW Competition 2a.
Tire temperature measured and wear pattern viewed. With the Toyo I do not yet completely drive off the outer flank. The tyre is not fully used. Same in the back. I reduce from 2.7 to 2.5.
More camber is not always good. You have to look at the tire temperature, air pressure and then the outside flanks when you drive. If there is still space up to the flank, reduce the camber until the complete tyre is used.
In addition, too much camber is extremely disturbing when braking on the straight before the corner.
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I drive a KW Clubsport. But now I change to a KW Competition 2a.
Tire temperature measured and wear pattern viewed. With the Toyo I do not yet completely drive off the outer flank. The tyre is not fully used. Same in the back. I reduce from 2.7 to 2.5.
More camber is not always good. You have to look at the tire temperature, air pressure and then the outside flanks when you drive. If there is still space up to the flank, reduce the camber until the complete tyre is used.
In addition, too much camber is extremely disturbing when braking on the straight before the corner.
The problem is, there's just no real data to go off for this particular car with nearly 600lbs removed from it. The starting point is essentially guesswork.
There was this build https://mbworld.org/articles/meet-amg-c63-tracktool/
And cracklin's post in the thread https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ml#post7433046
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What do you mean? 9,5x19 fits great around the car without any bigger mods.
Dont give it to much Camber in front. -3.8 is too much for me. I will lower it. -3.5 front and -2.5 rear would be great.
If you only track it, give the front a little bit toe out. Back Toe in is good.
Dont give it to much Camber in front. -3.8 is too much for me. I will lower it. -3.5 front and -2.5 rear would be great.
If you only track it, give the front a little bit toe out. Back Toe in is good.
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Really positive Toe in the rear? How come?
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A couple easy shake down laps from last week. Had a buddy follow to watch how the suspension was performing. Didn't have the gopro set properly so the contrast is bad.
Still had street tires on the rear. The KW Club Sport were set in the middle for rebound and compression out of 21 clicks. I have since gone 2 clicks + compression in the rear and 4 clicks + compression in the front to see how that feels.
I couldn't get my hands on trofeo r rears unfortunately so sport cup 2s will go on. Other than barely much grip in the rear with the PS4S the car was surprisingly stable
Still had street tires on the rear. The KW Club Sport were set in the middle for rebound and compression out of 21 clicks. I have since gone 2 clicks + compression in the rear and 4 clicks + compression in the front to see how that feels.
I couldn't get my hands on trofeo r rears unfortunately so sport cup 2s will go on. Other than barely much grip in the rear with the PS4S the car was surprisingly stable
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Very nice. It seems you are very close to 55% fr 45% rear balance, did that change as you lightened the car, or was this the same approximate balance as stock?
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