C63 to Black Series

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Mar 1, 2016 | 11:22 PM
  #1  
Hello, I know this topic has been addressed before but I am still on the search for a company that manufactures this parts for a reasonable price and not the OEM?.

I dont want a poser mobile but I do like the look of the Black Series and cannot trade my car back.

Thank you.
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Mar 1, 2016 | 11:29 PM
  #2  
Define "reasonable price"
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Mar 2, 2016 | 04:09 AM
  #3  
And are you looking for the cosmetic changes only or the functional ones as well (bigger brakes, larger oil coolers, rear E-class spindles, shocks / struts etc.)?
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Mar 2, 2016 | 06:56 AM
  #4  
Quote: And are you looking for the cosmetic changes only or the functional ones as well (bigger brakes, larger oil coolers, rear E-class spindles, shocks / struts etc.)?
Good point. I am just looking for the cosmetic changes on the exterior. Thank you
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Mar 2, 2016 | 06:57 AM
  #5  
Quote: Define "reasonable price"
I am curious about other possible prices since I only know how much it would cost to order from fractory.
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Mar 2, 2016 | 10:08 AM
  #6  
Quote: I am curious about other possible prices since I only know how much it would cost to order from fractory.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-widebody.html

Some kits on ebay for 3-5k. Most kits though will cost you at least 8-10k. Then factor in labor/custom work & adjustments/paint.
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Mar 2, 2016 | 11:53 AM
  #7  
Not exactly a full BS conversion but check out this thread if you have already not.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...group-buy.html

This is just for the rear wide fender like the BS. In my opinion just doing this with some wider rear wheels/tires will give you a very aggressive look.
Still not exactly a full BS look... but pretty close.
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Mar 2, 2016 | 02:09 PM
  #8  
Wobble64 did it the right way - he converted his 507 coupe to a BS-look car using OEM MB parts and sheet metal (not a cheap fiberglass kit which IMHO has no business on a proper AMG - those are for the C250 posers). Search for his posts here and I'm sure you'll find links to the build. You could PM him for more info if you need it.

AFAIK now he also has the enhanced cooling package (a must if you're ever going to track the car) and massive brakes.

P.S. Here's one of the posts: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ck-series.html

P.P.S. Sorry - just re-read your original post and saw that you're not looking for OEM parts. My apologies.
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Mar 2, 2016 | 03:33 PM
  #9  
Quote: Wobble64 did it the right way - he converted his 507 coupe to a BS-look car using OEM MB parts and sheet metal (not a cheap fiberglass kit which IMHO has no business on a proper AMG - those are for the C250 posers). Search for his posts here and I'm sure you'll find links to the build. You could PM him for more info if you need it.

AFAIK now he also has the enhanced cooling package (a must if you're ever going to track the car) and massive brakes.

P.S. Here's one of the posts: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ck-series.html

P.P.S. Sorry - just re-read your original post and saw that you're not looking for OEM parts. My apologies.
But for the amount of money he's put into the car, he won't get get back because it's not an actual BS.
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Mar 2, 2016 | 04:06 PM
  #10  
As you said subject already discussed.
Dad's and member Craiger were the first ones to do a widebody conversion with success. Don't forget to think about new wheel specs in order to fill in the wider fender!
Also do not think this will increase the value of your car. All that money spent will most likely not be recovered. I would only recommend a BS conversion if you plan on keeping your car forever.
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Mar 2, 2016 | 07:36 PM
  #11  
[QUOTE
Also do not think this will increase the value of your car. All that money spent will most likely not be recovered. I would only recommend a BS conversion if you plan on keeping your car forever.[/QUOTE]

Agree 100% with him. Unless you got money to blow.
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Mar 3, 2016 | 04:10 AM
  #12  
Quote: But for the amount of money he's put into the car, he won't get get back because it's not an actual BS.
With very few exceptions (i.e. collector vehicles), none of us will never get our money back that we put into any car that we actually end up driving.
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Mar 3, 2016 | 12:22 PM
  #13  
Quote: Wobble64 did it the right way - he converted his 507 coupe to a BS-look car using OEM MB parts and sheet metal (not a cheap fiberglass kit which IMHO has no business on a proper AMG - those are for the C250 posers). Search for his posts here and I'm sure you'll find links to the build. You could PM him for more info if you need it.

AFAIK now he also has the enhanced cooling package (a must if you're ever going to track the car) and massive brakes.

P.S. Here's one of the posts: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ck-series.html

P.P.S. Sorry - just re-read your original post and saw that you're not looking for OEM parts. My apologies.
I looked at online dealers but none of them seem to provide all Black Series parts. Also I have seen eBay body kits but the user does not have a website or looks trust worthy.
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Mar 3, 2016 | 04:42 PM
  #14  
Quote: With very few exceptions (i.e. collector vehicles), none of us will never get our money back that we put into any car that we actually end up driving.
Yeah I know but dumping 20-30k on a widebody, you would be losing even more money. It would probably even scare away most buyers. Those that would want a widebody would just go for a real BS.
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Mar 3, 2016 | 06:32 PM
  #15  
Random question without using the search button...

What if all I wanted was the 507/BS hood? I tried a quick google-fu search but came up empty.
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Mar 3, 2016 | 06:44 PM
  #16  
Quote: Random question without using the search button...

What if all I wanted was the 507/BS hood? I tried a quick google-fu search but came up empty.
Call any MB parts department and they'll get you one!
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Mar 3, 2016 | 09:04 PM
  #17  
Quote: Yeah I know but dumping 20-30k on a widebody, you would be losing even more money. It would probably even scare away most buyers. Those that would want a widebody would just go for a real BS.
True - but then again, your argument relies on the assumption that at some point in the future the person modifying said car would have the specific intention to sell it and recoup their money. I agree with your assessment that from a financial perspective it is a losing proposition - but then again, so is every single other mod you ever do on said car, or for that matter, every single repair. A five-year-old C63 with worn brake rotors costs the same amount of money as one with new brakes; one with 80K miles and new camshafts and lifters costs the same as one with the original cams and lifters. It's the same with mods - unless the mod is easily removable and you are able to resell it separately, it's not going to increase the value of the vehicle. A five-year-old car with a CF front splitter and diffuser costs the same as an otherwise similar car without them.

The bottom line is that if you do mods of this kind to a vehicle, you are doing them FOR YOUR OWN ENJOYMENT. I had the 44O enhanced cooling package installed on mine and then had to come up with a solution to make sure that I don't crunch the new oil cooler in the passenger wheel well that is completely exposed after the mod when it snows here in the winter and I pack the wheel well with snow, but that doesn't mean that if and when I decide to sell my car that I have any expectation of getting more money for it than someone that doesn't have the same mod on theirs. On average I change the oil four times a year (during which time I only drive ~6K km if that), I flush my brake fluid and get the car fully detailed at least twice a year, hand wash it weekly and condition the seats every two months, but again, I am not expecting to see more money because my car and engine are going to be in much beter shape than the average owners' similar car with half the mileage of mine.
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Mar 4, 2016 | 08:56 AM
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Quote: Random question without using the search button...

What if all I wanted was the 507/BS hood? I tried a quick google-fu search but came up empty.
You can get just the hood from ECS Tuning.
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