UOA: Mobil 1 0W-40 + Liqui Moly MoS 2
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UOA: Mobil 1 0W-40 + Liqui Moly MoS 2
Mobil 1 0W-40
1/2 bottle Liqui Moly MoS 2
Miles on sample: 4,423
Miles on engine: 56,373
Makeup oil added: 2.3 qts
ALUMINUM 4
CHROMIUM 1
IRON 16
COPPER 1
LEAD 0
TIN 0
MOLYBDENUM 138
NICKEL 1
MANGANESE 1
SILVER 0
TITANIUM 0
POTASSIUM 0
BORON 100
SILICON 7
SODIUM 7
CALCIUM 2745
MAGNESIUM 17
PHOSPHORUS 760
ZINC 874
BARIUM 0
SUS Viscosity @ 210°F 69.7
cSt Viscosity @ 100°C 12.87
Flashpoint in °F 405
Fuel % 0.5
1/2 bottle Liqui Moly MoS 2
Miles on sample: 4,423
Miles on engine: 56,373
Makeup oil added: 2.3 qts
ALUMINUM 4
CHROMIUM 1
IRON 16
COPPER 1
LEAD 0
TIN 0
MOLYBDENUM 138
NICKEL 1
MANGANESE 1
SILVER 0
TITANIUM 0
POTASSIUM 0
BORON 100
SILICON 7
SODIUM 7
CALCIUM 2745
MAGNESIUM 17
PHOSPHORUS 760
ZINC 874
BARIUM 0
SUS Viscosity @ 210°F 69.7
cSt Viscosity @ 100°C 12.87
Flashpoint in °F 405
Fuel % 0.5
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The rest of this post somehow disappeared while posting but these results are fantastic and consistent with my last UOA of 12k miles ago. Wear metals show no issues of any kind such as camshaft/lifters or bearings. Very, very happy to see this. For MoS 2 users, a prior UOA showed that a full bottle gave 446ppm of moly so a full initial bottle and a half bottle thereafter is the way to go.
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The rest of this post somehow disappeared while posting but these results are fantastic and consistent with my last UOA of 12k miles ago. Wear metals show no issues of any kind such as camshaft/lifters or bearings. Very, very happy to see this. For MoS 2 users, a prior UOA showed that a full bottle gave 446ppm of moly so a full initial bottle and a half bottle thereafter is the way to go.
Numbers and viscosity look right on though.
That's a little concerning.
Good to see someone else using Mos2. I dosed with Ceratec first a couple of oil changes ago, and am now using a bottle of Mos2 with subsequent changes.
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I'm guessing you used a "greater than" or "less than" sign. For whatever reason they make any part of the post that comes after disappear.
Numbers and viscosity look right on though.
That's a little concerning.
Good to see someone else using Mos2. I dosed with Ceratec first a couple of oil changes ago, and am now using a bottle of Mos2 with subsequent changes.
Numbers and viscosity look right on though.
That's a little concerning.
Good to see someone else using Mos2. I dosed with Ceratec first a couple of oil changes ago, and am now using a bottle of Mos2 with subsequent changes.
That is the hot ticket it seems - the first Ceratec dose and then MoS 2 thereafter. I'm a believer in both of these additives.
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Probably both. All I know is a hard 200 mile run with lots of over-5k revs driving = 1/2 qt of M1 consumption. City puttering around and it's one qt every 1.5k miles. Still, there's a huge difference between the two oils.
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One last thought about MoS 2 is that I was hoping/expecting it to work well for the bearings. So far, in two cars using MoS 2 for a while now the highest reading of the copper-lead-tin bearing trio has been 2ppm Cu and that in the C63. No lead ever in either car, these bearings look like they can soldier on forever.
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Dude. I had TWO track events (4 days total - 5 30min sessions per day) on my last oil because I got lazy (just over 3k miles). Didn't use any oil, and had less than an 1/8th of a cup in the catch can. Some of these engines use a lot, and some use none - no rhyme or reason.
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I'm like the other 99%. Add a quart every 1500-2000 miles. Just about the same as every other performance car I have owned.
Heck my X6 50i has a 4.4 twin turbo and it uses a quart every 1000 miles.
Oil analysis looks great on both cars.
Heck my X6 50i has a 4.4 twin turbo and it uses a quart every 1000 miles.
Oil analysis looks great on both cars.
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I'm guessing you used a "greater than" or "less than" sign. For whatever reason they make any part of the post that comes after disappear.
Numbers and viscosity look right on though.
That's a little concerning.
Good to see someone else using Mos2. I dosed with Ceratec first a couple of oil changes ago, and am now using a bottle of Mos2 with subsequent changes.
Numbers and viscosity look right on though.
That's a little concerning.
Good to see someone else using Mos2. I dosed with Ceratec first a couple of oil changes ago, and am now using a bottle of Mos2 with subsequent changes.
Where are you guys buying these products any special parts place or website ? I use ZMax. It's 20$ per oil change average. Is this in the additive your using price range? I haven checked my oil for mechanical parts per million by it does feel a lot better and smoother per shift while driving.
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Where are you guys buying these products any special parts place or website ? I use ZMax. It's 20$ per oil change average. Is this in the additive your using price range? I haven checked my oil for mechanical parts per million by it does feel a lot better and smoother per shift while driving.
Ceratec: https://www.amazon.com/Liqui-Moly-20.../dp/B001CZODH8
Analysis & Reviews: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
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Dude. I had TWO track events (4 days total - 5 30min sessions per day) on my last oil because I got lazy (just over 3k miles). Didn't use any oil, and had less than an 1/8th of a cup in the catch can. Some of these engines use a lot, and some use none - no rhyme or reason.
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Mine is a LOW oil consumption M156 as well. I do 3 day track events at CoTA with negligible loss - but swap oil each time. Then street driving for months produces the same results. I do add 1/2 to 1 qt here and there but maybe once a year.
Thx to you all regarding recommendations on these additives.
Thx to you all regarding recommendations on these additives.
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Thanks, OP, I'm going to start using these additives with my M1.
ETA: How much of the Ceratec do you use and do you also usr the Mos?
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ETA: How much of the Ceratec do you use and do you also usr the Mos?
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