Boostane Octane Boost-Tried and Tested
01-01-2017, 12:57 PM
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Yeah it's nasty stuff. It's magnesium based and is very corrosive. Newer systems like what we have in our cars cannot take MMT. Their are some areas around the world where they still use it as a fuel additive like China and Canada, but they keep knocking down the amount used.
Many auto makers are against the use of it because what it does to their systems.
If this product has it in there, I would avoid it like the plague.
Many auto makers are against the use of it because what it does to their systems.
If this product has it in there, I would avoid it like the plague.
01-01-2017, 01:00 PM
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01-01-2017, 01:05 PM
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Race gas 
Seriously, I look at it like oil additives. There better be a shtton of information available demonstrating the benefits to the health of my engine, first and foremost, before I'm going to pour any in.
Would you purposefully put low-quality oil in your car, and then add a can of goop and think to yourself that you're doing what's best for your engine? No. You start with the absolute best base and go from there, if possible. Most would argue against oil additives for this reason - that you can't measurably improve on the best oils with a can of almost anything. And the additives that do demonstrate some benefit, are made by companies that have the resources and R&D budgets to believably make such a product, with independent tests and hard data to back it up.
This stuff doesn't pass any of those tests. Race gas is refined/designed and tested to be the highest and purest quality, with the associated performance benefit. The finest high-performance and racing oils are made by companies with infinite budgets to create those specific formulations for each specific purpose, and have truckloads of tests and data to back up the benefits. They don't just dump in a bottle of stuff and call it a day. Just like I'm not dumping a bottle of unknown stuff made by some guys in their garage in my gas tank, all because a few dyno pulls showed horsepower gains. I wouldn't think that would be enough for anyone.
Seriously, I look at it like oil additives. There better be a shtton of information available demonstrating the benefits to the health of my engine, first and foremost, before I'm going to pour any in.
Would you purposefully put low-quality oil in your car, and then add a can of goop and think to yourself that you're doing what's best for your engine? No. You start with the absolute best base and go from there, if possible. Most would argue against oil additives for this reason - that you can't measurably improve on the best oils with a can of almost anything. And the additives that do demonstrate some benefit, are made by companies that have the resources and R&D budgets to believably make such a product, with independent tests and hard data to back it up.
This stuff doesn't pass any of those tests. Race gas is refined/designed and tested to be the highest and purest quality, with the associated performance benefit. The finest high-performance and racing oils are made by companies with infinite budgets to create those specific formulations for each specific purpose, and have truckloads of tests and data to back up the benefits. They don't just dump in a bottle of stuff and call it a day. Just like I'm not dumping a bottle of unknown stuff made by some guys in their garage in my gas tank, all because a few dyno pulls showed horsepower gains. I wouldn't think that would be enough for anyone.
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01-01-2017, 01:22 PM
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Where do you get all this miss-information?
Yeah it's nasty stuff. It's magnesium based and is very corrosive. Newer systems like what we have in our cars cannot take MMT. Their are some areas around the world where they still use it as a fuel additive like China and Canada, but they keep knocking down the amount used.
Many auto makers are against the use of it because what it does to their systems.
If this product has it in there, I would avoid it like the plague.
Many auto makers are against the use of it because what it does to their systems.
If this product has it in there, I would avoid it like the plague.
01-01-2017, 01:27 PM
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Methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl (MMT) is a gasoline octane enhancer produced by the Afton Chemical Corporation (Afton), formerly known as the Ethyl Corporation. MMT is allowed in U.S. gasolineat a level equivalent to 1/32 grams per gallon manganese (gpg Mn).
Check out BITOG threads.
It seems to be a fact that it is not often used in the US anymore, and that manufacturers have largely phased out the use of MMT. It's also an actual fact that MMT creates deposits. That's enough for me.
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01-01-2017, 01:36 PM
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But you miss-stated only Canada and China-
The INFORMATION is readily available in a number of places on the internet.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...&Number=781023
It's a fact that manufacturers are phasing out MMT. It's also a fact that MMT creates deposits. That's enough for me.
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...&Number=781023
It's a fact that manufacturers are phasing out MMT. It's also a fact that MMT creates deposits. That's enough for me.
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01-01-2017, 01:44 PM
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Boy oh boy - what an attitude -- did you forget that you stated that only Canada and China allow MMT ??? Are you not aware of the fact that Canada tried to ban it but was not allowed by NAFTA? Canada spend millions trying to fight this but lost?? Even in your USA environmental legislation tried to ban it but it seems that NAFTA supersedes most of your laws placing emphasis on profits over population and environmental health.. WE'RE all in the same hopeless boat.
Mazspeed's post was 100% factual.
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01-01-2017, 02:10 PM
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All is good
I'm not arguing with you man, relax, no attitude. I'm just pointing out facts. I edited my post already prior to yours. What is your point exactly? Are you arguing that it's not used in the US, that it's good or bad or what? Just because it's allowed by law doesn't mean that manufacturers haven't mostly phased it out already.
Mazspeed's post was 100% factual.
Mazspeed's post was 100% factual.
Happy 2017 to all.
01-01-2017, 02:20 PM
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As the others stated, race gas is good. In Cal I can get 100 oct out of some union 76 stations and I can either run it straight or mix it half and half with 91. I don't think our cars running in NA need more than 95 oct anyways. That's just my guess. If it was FI it might be happier with even higher oct. But since most guys are running NA C63's I can't see how anything higher than 95 would be needed for detonation kill.
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01-01-2017, 02:24 PM
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Methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl (MMT) is a gasoline octane enhancer produced by the Afton Chemical Corporation (Afton), formerly known as the Ethyl Corporation. MMT is allowed in U.S. gasolineat a level equivalent to 1/32 grams per gallon manganese (gpg Mn).
The problem with MMT is on many levels. It's very harmful to the environment and also to your car. I don't know if "Boostane" is using this at all. But "if" it is, I would not use it.
01-01-2017, 02:47 PM
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