Unfortunately Auto Talent and FI exhaust cant change any part of the design because they didn't design it. They knocked of the design from us. Not to mention after looking at the inside of the header flange, I feel bad for anyone who buys these. The welding and left on the inside of the flange and the cold welds on the joints is not anywhere near our standards.

Then again Mercedes 63 owner likes to deal with top shops and products, not companies that sell knock offs and cheap copies.

 

Stay salty, my friend.

 

This is your sell buddy. I'm one of those types who have used lesser quality parts and in the end have paid for the part twice. Post pictures of the quality welds that you all have - anyone can see the difference (I mean compare the FI picture on this thread to any MBH pictures - its noticeable).

I plan to be a MBH customer in the future.

 

I am reminded of a recent video where someone took a sledge hammer to a set of headers and damn near crushed every tube and only saw a 2hp loss on the top end.

 

We have ran FI for years with 0 issues. Makes the same power on the dyno as well. No bad quality here

 

No issues on my black series. Couldn't be happier with my FI LT headers. The sound is amazing.

 

Just purchased FI LTH, looking forward to receiving and subsequently installing. Stay tuned for product review and videos post install.

 

Can't wait. I still need to get some videos of mine out on the streets. What tune are you going with?

 

Oh ya what happened to those? I will trade you those videos for your OEM headers

 

The video did not come out good because of the wind. Going to try again next weekend after C&C in La Jolla.

 

I have the Eurocharged V6 tune. I will be installing ethanol upgrade and headers at the same time. Hopefully within the next month, as time and life permits. Patience and priority setting is very difficult.

 

Bump!

 

 

Drop your price and become more competitive or lose your market share.. that is the nature of business.

 

Bump!

 

Bump!

 

As I'm interested at some point soon to choose a good header when the warranty lapses. This is a really good movie. Still wondering whose the good guy and the bad guy though. Hmmmm

 

No good guy or bad guy just a winner. I'm gonna spoil the plot for you but the winner is the consumer.

 

Sour grapes. I say buy what gives you the most value. IF MBH wants to be competitive then they should lower their price and capture more market share. I will not give MBH a single dime of my money because of the way they have whined and cried like spoiled babies.

 

Good point....

 

I like how MBH keeps saying WE and OUR and MY. Sir you are a vendor reselling headers that you don't make and hardly stock. You haven't made an order for more headers for a while now.

 

Alright so what's the best header for the money. Haha. Sorry I had to do it. I'm done until something relevant occurs. I promise....

 

You my friend are way wrong. Stop spreading false info about things you know nothing about.

 

I will say I believe Mag1c Carp3t has MBH headers and so he did business with you at some degree? So I think he knows of something about your company/product. As well as he seems very very knowledgeable on his understanding of our cars. He's getting his heads port and polished right now for god sake?? Like that Sh*t ain't easy. So he is pretty smart and an avid member and enthusiast. But back on track because this is a bit long. I'm sorry for those who are reading this.... I had a couple and so yeah... In no case or circumstance including now Is never a good time to publicly call a member out and make him wrong the way you did. No matter if he is wrong or right. It just isn't the way to speak to a client/customer in public. Yes this is online. But this is still public and In no circumstance should you call out a customer or potential customer with an audience of being wrong the way you did. You are the vendor or business owner or whatever. Your the one we go to for needing stuff for our cars. The car that we spent a Sh*t ton of money for. You need to take the high road and put your frustration into innovation, pricing, and being better for clients/customers. That's your job! Humble up your message in public and have a conversation privately with what you disagree on. You have been ranting for some time now and I have watched your words and I agree with some of your frustration but you sir are going about it the wrong way in the way that your doing it. I'm 28 years old and I own 3 businesses. Well about to be 4 once this app goes through. But that's another topic and I'm not gloating at all! I'm using that on the basis of fact that I know a little bit of how to go about how your going about it when comes to people and clients and other businesses mirroring your stuff. And it's not the right way. You sir need to be more well rounded as a business professional selling a product. Well rounded you ask? Well you make a great header from what I hear. Your pricey but that's a mirror of the quality you apply right? Well that's all great and all but your attitude and professionalism doesn't match that quality in public based on the choice of words and the attitude your using by defending yourself and your product. If your that great you don't need to be fighting for it the way you are. Every time you speak I see your kudos points go down based on the choice of words your using. You need to humble up in times of adversity and sticking to your guns as a professional and or business owner or designer or whatever you are to this company called MBH. The last thing you want to do is create a bad name for yourself. It doesn't matter how good your headers are or how long you been in business. It takes 20 years to make a great reputation and it takes only 20 seconds to ruin it. For the fact that FI copied your headers or whatever the case is I would do what you need to behind the scenes to protect your work or company name. And in some weird way find the idk the word I'm looking for but I guess the joy In the fact you make something so good someone is willing to copy it. And if in case that is the fact and you want to protect what you have created do it as a professional behind the scenes. Win or lose you'll have the fact that people like Mag1c Carp3t have used and still use your headers and people still talk about how great your headers are and that's worth something isnt it? I normally charge $100 an hour for mindset training but since I have been drinking and I care about my fellow 63 members as they have been so kind to me and in have learned so much from them it's free. If you analyze what I said it could make you a crap ton more money and as a genuine, reputable, go to company for whatever your product is.

 

NO, I had no dealings with Mag1c Carp3t. He got his headers from a local shop who tried to use shady avenues to get them. We caught on to them and were subsequently paid. The shop even tried to spin them off as the name of my partners side business that builds UTV parts.
To be honest I've been staying out of this. Remember I am just about forced to protect our product. If you dont you risk losing it to the public domain. That will not be the case with all the hard work Ive put into making these headers. Golan and Auto Talent amongst others will soon be receiving correspondence from my attorneys letting them know they are selling a product that violates our protected design. I may come off as the bad guy and thats fine. As long as the cause is right... and protecting our design is a just cause. Dont get me wrong this whole situation sucks. I'd rather make cool parts and talk headers and exhausts all day than deal with this.