Potentially a New C63 owner, Question on NA limits
#27
Not quite. What you actually did was say that you're going to use meth and an underdrive pulley among other things. Even though the first just isn't going to be materially useful on an NA car, and the second isn't generally a great idea given the accessory demands and nature of the big 6.2L M156. And then when experienced people gave you opinions, you said something like "I'm sure it'll work great" and "I believe I'll be pushing over 500whp for sure", without any actual facts to back up either statement.
So either you're just trolling, or you're looking for someone to come in and support your dumb ideas. Your answers don't indicate someone who is looking for opinions. Go search for meth and see how many people have used it in the 10yrs this platform has been out. What's relevant in the smaller displacement forced induction world rarely holds true for this platform which is the polar opposite.
But whatever dude, if you're so sure have at it man and let us know how it turns out.
So either you're just trolling, or you're looking for someone to come in and support your dumb ideas. Your answers don't indicate someone who is looking for opinions. Go search for meth and see how many people have used it in the 10yrs this platform has been out. What's relevant in the smaller displacement forced induction world rarely holds true for this platform which is the polar opposite.
But whatever dude, if you're so sure have at it man and let us know how it turns out.
if you actually read my post you would understand that we have terrible gas up here and that’s the whole reason I wanted to use methanol, so I could run a higher octane. But again you don’t really read so there in lies the problem. 😂😂 thank you for saying something of substance instead of just comment trolling
#28
Not quite. What you actually did was say that you're going to use meth and an underdrive pulley among other things. Even though the first just isn't going to be materially useful on an NA car, and the second isn't generally a great idea given the accessory demands and nature of the big 6.2L M156. And then when experienced people gave you opinions, you said something like "I'm sure it'll work great" and "I believe I'll be pushing over 500whp for sure", without any actual facts to back up either statement.
So either you're just trolling, or you're looking for someone to come in and support your dumb ideas. Your answers don't indicate someone who is looking for opinions. Go search for meth and see how many people have used it in the 10yrs this platform has been out. What's relevant in the smaller displacement forced induction world rarely holds true for this platform which is the polar opposite.
But whatever dude, if you're so sure have at it man and let us know how it turns out.
So either you're just trolling, or you're looking for someone to come in and support your dumb ideas. Your answers don't indicate someone who is looking for opinions. Go search for meth and see how many people have used it in the 10yrs this platform has been out. What's relevant in the smaller displacement forced induction world rarely holds true for this platform which is the polar opposite.
But whatever dude, if you're so sure have at it man and let us know how it turns out.
And I actually provided website links from this for him to back up my claims
#29
Ok I'm going to chime in because I'm bored and there is nothing really going on the forum lately.
Meth injection is good for dropping air intake temps.i had it on my e55 and that thing would hit 200 degree air temps in an 80 degree day doing a few wot pulls.
Meth injection helps drop air temps and will do absolutely **** to help your poor gas quality.we have amazing intakes and the factory setup is perfect.
Go log your car and you will see how cold the air us compared to a boosted car.
If you have crap gas invest in mmt based octane boosters but be ready to go through O2 sensors or just run e85 if you have that gas near you.
Now let's jump to the underdrive pulley.i have ran my car on the Dyno over 15 times and done over 30 passes down the 1/4 mile.
Our cars keep making power on the Dyno up to about the 6th pull.its just the nature of our ecus and you will see once you go down the 1/4 mile that the car will keep getting faster and faster with the more passes you do.
That 447whp is right where the car should be with shorty headers and probably did just one run and didn't let the car adapt enough before trying the new pulley.
Meth injection is good for dropping air intake temps.i had it on my e55 and that thing would hit 200 degree air temps in an 80 degree day doing a few wot pulls.
Meth injection helps drop air temps and will do absolutely **** to help your poor gas quality.we have amazing intakes and the factory setup is perfect.
Go log your car and you will see how cold the air us compared to a boosted car.
If you have crap gas invest in mmt based octane boosters but be ready to go through O2 sensors or just run e85 if you have that gas near you.
Now let's jump to the underdrive pulley.i have ran my car on the Dyno over 15 times and done over 30 passes down the 1/4 mile.
Our cars keep making power on the Dyno up to about the 6th pull.its just the nature of our ecus and you will see once you go down the 1/4 mile that the car will keep getting faster and faster with the more passes you do.
That 447whp is right where the car should be with shorty headers and probably did just one run and didn't let the car adapt enough before trying the new pulley.
#30
Ok I'm going to chime in because I'm bored and there is nothing really going on the forum lately.
Meth injection is good for dropping air intake temps.i had it on my e55 and that thing would hit 200 degree air temps in an 80 degree day doing a few wot pulls.
Meth injection helps drop air temps and will do absolutely **** to help your poor gas quality.we have amazing intakes and the factory setup is perfect.
Go log your car and you will see how cold the air us compared to a boosted car.
If you have crap gas invest in mmt based octane boosters but be ready to go through O2 sensors or just run e85 if you have that gas near you.
Now let's jump to the underdrive pulley.i have ran my car on the Dyno over 15 times and done over 30 passes down the 1/4 mile.
Our cars keep making power on the Dyno up to about the 6th pull.its just the nature of our ecus and you will see once you go down the 1/4 mile that the car will keep getting faster and faster with the more passes you do.
That 447whp is right where the car should be with shorty headers and probably did just one run and didn't let the car adapt enough before trying the new pulley.
Meth injection is good for dropping air intake temps.i had it on my e55 and that thing would hit 200 degree air temps in an 80 degree day doing a few wot pulls.
Meth injection helps drop air temps and will do absolutely **** to help your poor gas quality.we have amazing intakes and the factory setup is perfect.
Go log your car and you will see how cold the air us compared to a boosted car.
If you have crap gas invest in mmt based octane boosters but be ready to go through O2 sensors or just run e85 if you have that gas near you.
Now let's jump to the underdrive pulley.i have ran my car on the Dyno over 15 times and done over 30 passes down the 1/4 mile.
Our cars keep making power on the Dyno up to about the 6th pull.its just the nature of our ecus and you will see once you go down the 1/4 mile that the car will keep getting faster and faster with the more passes you do.
That 447whp is right where the car should be with shorty headers and probably did just one run and didn't let the car adapt enough before trying the new pulley.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...on-63-amg.html
#31
this is good info to no. Thank u. The meth info I got from this thread
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...on-63-amg.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...on-63-amg.html
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#34
#35
thats one artcle of many blkcock. Like I said, u don’t really read the forums, cause you would have found that article and 3 other ones.
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#36
Not sure what you think you read in there so yeah...have fun running a 95-100 octane tune on 90 octane with this magic NA meth.
#37
that’s what I mean. It hasn’t been done but thanks
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#40
You might need this when you report back to us....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-c63-amg...-/142512951287
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-c63-amg...-/142512951287
#41
You might need this when you report back to us....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-c63-amg...-/142512951287
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-c63-amg...-/142512951287
#42
The meth kit won't be the cause for killing your motor. Running a 95 octane tune on 90 octane fuel and believing that running meth will compensate it will be the reason.
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#43
that’ may be true but meth is shown to boost is up to 10 octane points. Soo I doubt that will happen but we’ll see.
#44
Why wouldn't spraying Methanol increase BOV? He's got 90 at the pump. Pretty sure it will make up the difference.
http://methanolfuels.wpengine.com/fuel-blending/
http://www.sunocoracefuels.com/tech-...hol-and-octane
Or just mix it in the tank for the absolute cheapest option.
http://methanolfuels.wpengine.com/fuel-blending/
http://www.sunocoracefuels.com/tech-...hol-and-octane
Or just mix it in the tank for the absolute cheapest option.
#45
I would listen to these posters. They're not saying stuff because they're haters or don't want you to succeed and make more power. We all want more power. They're trying to stop you from potentially irreversibly harming your motor.
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#47
Why wouldn't spraying Methanol increase BOV? He's got 90 at the pump. Pretty sure it will make up the difference.
http://methanolfuels.wpengine.com/fuel-blending/
http://www.sunocoracefuels.com/tech-...hol-and-octane
Or just mix it in the tank for the absolute cheapest option.
http://methanolfuels.wpengine.com/fuel-blending/
http://www.sunocoracefuels.com/tech-...hol-and-octane
Or just mix it in the tank for the absolute cheapest option.
#49
I'm starting to suspect you have an odd number of chromosomes.
#50
Start off small. Get a tune for 93 pump, run a small nozzle, use PURE Meth (not 50/50 or any other water/meth combo) and data log ignition advance. Review your graphs and see if the ecu is pulling timing. If it is, increase the nozzle size and repeat. If the car is running strong and not knocking, run your 95 octane tune and repeat the process of data logging.
Theres more to it but that's the easiest way to get the system running correctly.
Theres more to it but that's the easiest way to get the system running correctly.
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