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Hello All,
I've just started some minor modifications on a C63 which I am preparing as a track car.
Mods so far include a Drexler LSD, Supersprint Headers with Catless Exhaust, Weistec Transmission Sump and Eurocharged V7 Tune.
Today I installed V3 Coilovers and as you can see in the photos of the shock towers, I have no way of adjusting the Camber as I haven't got clear access to the four torx adjustment screws.
I know I've stuffed up somehow but can't see what I've done wrong and can't find any detailed fitting instructions on the net-----any assistance would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the replies boys.
As you say Phil, it looks as though there is no other way.
What a PITA to have to adjust them this way as the whole idea is supposed to be the ease of adjustment especially when you're at the track.
Your suggestion BLKROKT looks to be the only other way but unfortunately by cutting / grinding the tops the integral strength of the tower may be affected.
The only other way I can see is to cut the tops off and weld on a new "user friendly" top---------too hard.
To answer your question Mag 1c Carp3t, when I ordered the kit I just asked if the Camber Plates were included as the KW website seemed a little vague in description.
BTW, if any of you are looking for Coilovers I recommend you look at cheapcoilovers.com as they have many different brands for sale at reasonable prices and they get back to you with any requests very quickly.
As a matter of fact we just bought our third set from them which will be going into our other project, a W201 EVO 1 Clone with a C32 M112K Engine / Transmission fitted with Paddle Shift and a Drexler LSD.
Thanks again for your suggestions.
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Originally Posted by cracklin
Your suggestion BLKROKT looks to be the only other way but unfortunately by cutting / grinding the tops the integral strength of the tower may be affected.
No, you’ll be fine. Opening that hole a little more is not going to materially affect the strength of the tower, that area doesn’t even bear any load really. I know plenty of cars that have done it and none have crashed or had their struts fall off yet.
You don’t even have to grind much to get to those screws
The Clubsport version comes with adjustable camber plates. Not sure if you can add them to the V3s or not.
Ok Boys,
I have had these Coilovers sitting in my garage since January this year while I was collecting all the other gear for my Track setup.
I thought I'd post a photo of the KW packaging the Coilovers originally came in and as you can see they are marked "KW 352 25 833, KW Clubsport V3+ m.Stl. Mercedes C63 AMG"
It looks like you may be right however it still doesn't explain why the Camber Plates are in such a difficult position for adjustment.
Anyway even though the build set up only started this weekI thought I'd show you a few more picts of the install to date.
For some reason the picts won't upload from my laptop. I'll try to send them separately from my Ipad.
Once the Exhaust is complete I'll be installing a secondary Transmission Cooler in the rear defuser and I already have a couple of ball valve takeoffs installed in the Weistec Transmission Pan.
A Diff Cooler is also on the agenda as is installing a couple of Hood Vents.
When that jobs finished I'll then concentrate on Brake Cooling options and will probably install a couple of intakes in the driving lights location in the front bumper.
The Semi-Slick Tyres to start with will be 265/35/18 Hankook Z221's on 9.5 X 18" front and rear with an ET 52 Offset.
Brakes at this stage will remain stock with EBC Yellow Stuff Pads.
I have got some 390mm two piece 65 Rotors for the front and 340mm two piece for the rear however if I run the 390's I'll have to go to a 19" rim which I don't particularly want to do.
If I had to, I guess I could go to a 19" up front with a 30 profile and keep the 18's on the rear with the 35 profile but before I attempted that, I'd need to get some Brake Caliper offset brackets.
Anyway I'll post some better Picts of the build as it progresses.
I’m interested in solving the camber adjustment issue on the V3s as I just bought them myself and will put them on this coming week. Can we get camber plates for the v3s?
Do point out that for all W204 coil spring models we manufacture “replacement” top front strut mounts that require no strut removal or structural alterations to adjust!
We have been manufacturing front and rear adjuster kits longer than any other company and having “in-house” manufacture – not sourcing imports, allows total control over quality and rapid/constant design updates.
Latest series 2 kits have all the features – Camber and Caster change from engine bay just in the time taken to loosen the 3 top mount bolts. The patented design allows up to precise 3 degrees extra negative Camber change and 1.5 positive.
Available in Stage 2 (Street/Race) or Stage 3 (Full Race)
CHECKLIST: 1. Ultimate highest 7075 aircraft grade aluminum 2. Stage 2 has similar centers to OEM – but elastomer not rubber (replaceable). 3. Stage 3 has massive (1 7/8”) spherical self-align bearings PTFE lined (replaceable). 4. Stage 2/3 have “separate” heavy duty (3 3/8” O.D.) sealed radial thrust bearings for steering loads and prevent spring drag/binding. 5. Designed so no height increase and absolute minimum stack height. Fit OEM diameter springs along with all brands of coil overs 60-70mm I.D.
Above kits recommend for “additional adjustment – track days”.
As we also manufacture the ‘4’ lower arm bushings (highest wearing) – the 2 inner control arm bushes providing up to one degree extra (Pos/Neg) Camber change (which is more than 3 times that of the inaccurate 'one offset position' fluted bolts). In combination with above strut adjustment, this becomes 4 degrees with more than 2 inches extra front track width. All in the pursuit of hitting those corner apex’s every time and going deeper into the corners with increased traction, braking, and steering response!
While the other 2 bushes replace the front thrust arm bushings allowing to re-establish correct Caster settings.
These 4 bushings are also Mono ball / 2 axis design with more than twice the load bearing area of the rubber (oil and air voided) OEM bushes. Result is further improvement to brake and steering response.
Having only Toe adjustment on the rear OEM we also have developed and refined over the years a competition rated rear bushing kit for Camber (and extra Toe adjustment to compensate for this new Camber facility).
Like the front bushes with the patented design it provides precise single wrench adjustment. Means track days with use of tire pyrometer can fine tune/adjust for maximum traction.
Also replacement performance bushings for the ‘6’ rear multi-link arms. Noticeably improving rear end traction – less twitch/flex when cornering or applying power. Especially lane changing, overtaking.
No, you’ll be fine. Opening that hole a little more is not going to materially affect the strength of the tower, that area doesn’t even bear any load really. I know plenty of cars that have done it and none have crashed or had their struts fall off yet.
You don’t even have to grind much to get to those screws
When I first read your reply I didn't see the attached photos-------Thank you very much!
What are the white brackets ?
Would you have a photo looking down from directly above the shock tower ?
Cheers-------JR.
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Originally Posted by cracklin
When I first read your reply I didn't see the attached photos-------Thank you very much!
What are the white brackets ?
Would you have a photo looking down from directly above the shock tower ?
Cheers-------JR.
Yep I’ll take a better pic tonight. The white bar is a welded steel strut bar from Ultra Racing. They make a big set of steel chassis bars for the W204 C63 and they’re cheap. Best bang-for-the-buck mod in my opinion and essential if you’re going to be hard tracking the car. They’re all over eBay and from Malaysia. There are 8 pieces to the set, but they took the rear control arm braces out of production so only 7 are available.
Hey BLKROKT,
Many Thanks for the Photos.
Looks like I don't to cut much out at all and BTW, I took your advice and have ordered the Strut Bar from Ultra.
Cheers.
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