Year C63 to mod to 500 rwhp
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LOL, intake spacers still are the smirk mod for the V8 Kompressor forums. Is there a large distance of Black Series vs standard C63; internals, etc.? Can a C63 be brought to Black Series specs then beyond?
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Outside of the major engine differences, bringing a regular C63 to BS-spec is an enormously expensive undertaking. Widebody panels and optional aero all around, wider rear end and actively cooled rear diff, upgraded cooling, brakes, wider wheels, coilovers and a few other small things like rear seat delete, red belts, etc.
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Yes then No. Everyone who bought a base/cheap c63 argues that a tuned base c63 will surpass a pp c63. But then what happens when the pp gets a tune. It puts down more power than the base. Well, get headers on that base. So get headers on that pp. And the argument will continue. Slice it how you want, a pp car will always be at an advantage over the base if you stay stock or go mod for mod. By pp I'm talking about p31, edition 1, 507 and black series. BS has a lot more going on than just internals and a tune. If your goal is the 500 whp, why not give yourself a head start by getting the better engine.
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Yes then No. Everyone who bought a base/cheap c63 argues that a tuned base c63 will surpass a pp c63. But then what happens when the pp gets a tune. It puts down more power than the base. Well, get headers on that base. So get headers on that pp. And the argument will continue. Slice it how you want, a pp car will always be at an advantage over the base if you stay stock or go mod for mod. By pp I'm talking about p31, edition 1, 507 and black series. BS has a lot more going on than just internals and a tune. If your goal is the 500 whp, why not give yourself a head start by getting the better engine.
Mod for mod a P31 car will always be at advantage.
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I'm so waiting for your TB results and debating still on sls intake.
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The W204 pre facelift sedan isn't as light as some would expect. Mine weighed in at 3950lbs NA. I am in the final stages of running an ESS supercharger so that will definitely put it up over 4k pounds. Not exactly a lightweight
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Post up your impressions and pics of their kit. They’re not really known in the MB world. I’m curious to see how it compares to the more known blowers on here.
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I plan on starting a new thread with my thoughts one I've had some seat time and when it is above freezing outside. I was not able to find much information on the kit either but ESS is big in other car communities. So far it seems like a very high quality kit. I have experience with the weistec kit on my last personal vehicle which was a clk55 and set the 1/4 Mile record and have put together several weistec supercharged E55s so I am familiar with their setup and customer service. The ESS kit cooling design is superior in my opinion due to the intercooler being on top instead of sandwiched between the supercharger and engine. The intercooler also looks much larger. They use the same Whipple 2.9L as weistec stage 3 at a much lower price point. So far their customer service has been better than what I'm used to. On time delivery and questions answered promptly. I don't want to get too off topic in here so I will start a thread when I have more info to share.
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ESS is big in the BMW world and have a lot of high power cars out there.
With all the um, negative experiences I've been reading about with Weistec recently, I have been looking much more closely at mainly the Magnuson TVS2300 kit, and to a lesser extent the ESS 2.9L Whipple kit. There is absolutely no information out there that I can seem to find about the ESS kit though.
Who's tuning it?
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I too would love to know what you think about the ESS kit as, like you mentioned, it's the same 2.9L Whipple as Weistec at a lot lower price. I remember you did a lot of crazy stuff with that CLK55!
ESS is big in the BMW world and have a lot of high power cars out there.
With all the um, negative experiences I've been reading about with Weistec recently, I have been looking much more closely at mainly the Magnuson TVS2300 kit, and to a lesser extent the ESS 2.9L Whipple kit. There is absolutely no information out there that I can seem to find about the ESS kit though.
Who's tuning it?
ESS is big in the BMW world and have a lot of high power cars out there.
With all the um, negative experiences I've been reading about with Weistec recently, I have been looking much more closely at mainly the Magnuson TVS2300 kit, and to a lesser extent the ESS 2.9L Whipple kit. There is absolutely no information out there that I can seem to find about the ESS kit though.
Who's tuning it?
I spoke with Magnuson at SEMA when I was doing my research. I wasn't finding much info on their kit either They told me they are moving away from the European market. That is what made me cross them off my list. I would like a company that is devoted to the platform. You should talk to each company prior to making a decision.
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Obviously the forged internals are a plus for weight and strength but the non performance cars without forged internals aren't anywhere near unsafe power level at 450 (tune)-500whp(fbo), are they?
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These engines are build strong from the factory
