Year C63 to mod to 500 rwhp
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Year C63 to mod to 500 rwhp
Hello fellow AMG ers. I've just came out of a fbo 500+ rwhp 700 lb/ft 2006 CL55 AMG wrecked by a cell/texter. The CL55, though an awesome sleeper, was heavy (4300 lbs.). Among its many attributes, what appealed to me most was the stout Kompressor V8 motor and two doors. Before leaping in to a 2005 CL65 (V12 TT) I've been eyeing, the prospect of the lighter two door C63. My central question is; aside from the 4.0 V8 Bi-Turbo, what year is best to push off in attaining 500+ rwhp? The platform prior to the bi-turbo is preferred. And yes, my 06 CL55 blew the doors off most American and Foreign muscle, including a 2017 C63S AMG sedan. Budget for initial purchase is up to $30k. Thank you.
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2012-13 Black Series would be best. Second best would be a 2014-15 507 Coupe which has all of the best bits from throughout the production years. Third best would be any 2012-15 P31 Coupe with the forged internals (these are the only ones close to your budget).
Keep in mind that FBO will get you to just around the 500whp mark. Any more than that you will need FI or N2O.
Keep in mind that FBO will get you to just around the 500whp mark. Any more than that you will need FI or N2O.
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2012-13 Black Series would be best. Second best would be a 2014-15 507 Coupe which has all of the best bits from throughout the production years. Third best would be any 2012-15 P31 Coupe with the forged internals (these are the only ones close to your budget).
Keep in mind that FBO will get you to just around the 500whp mark. Any more than that you will need FI or N2O.
Keep in mind that FBO will get you to just around the 500whp mark. Any more than that you will need FI or N2O.
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Stock for stock the 4.0 will beat the 6.2, tune vs tune the 4.0 will beat the 6.2. Now when it comes to the different stages of the 6.2 with the supercharger vs the 4.0 with the different stages im not sure who will come out on top but im pretty sure it will still be the 4.0. But Stage 3 4.0 vs stage 3 6.2 this is a toss up but i think this will go to the 6.2 as i believe some guys are in the 10.2 and the fastest 4.0 stage 3 i have seen is 10.7 (PL27 username) or better? but i could be wrong. I sure do love the 6.2 sound though, nothing like it.
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Stock for stock the 4.0 will beat the 6.2, tune vs tune the 4.0 will beat the 6.2. Now when it comes to the different stages of the 6.2 with the supercharger vs the 4.0 with the different stages im not sure who will come out on top but im pretty sure it will still be the 4.0. But Stage 3 4.0 vs stage 3 6.2 this is a toss up but i think this will go to the 6.2 as i believe some guys are in the 10.2 and the fastest 4.0 stage 3 i have seen is 10.7 (PL27 username) or better? but i could be wrong. I sure do love the 6.2 sound though, nothing like it.
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2012-13 Black Series would be best. Second best would be a 2014-15 507 Coupe which has all of the best bits from throughout the production years. Third best would be any 2012-15 P31 Coupe with the forged internals (these are the only ones close to your budget).
Keep in mind that FBO will get you to just around the 500whp mark. Any more than that you will need FI or N2O.
Keep in mind that FBO will get you to just around the 500whp mark. Any more than that you will need FI or N2O.
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I got 275 no fitment issue, no spacers. Add spacers, bigger rims, you're set. 205s are about 20k-30k more expensive. Add half that in mods to a w204 and it's game over w205.
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Well, it should be noted that, all other things being equal, a sedan is (counter-intuitively) ~150 lbs lighter than a coupe.. If weight is an issue for you, of course.
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MB Star Tekinfo shows curb weight for the Sedan is 3924 lb, the Coupe is 3935 lb.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ml#post7304681
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Coupe: 3816
Sedan: 3649
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Thx you CL63 gang. Your responses and wisdom is very much appreciated. Will a 2012 bolt-on C63 hold it's own against a Stang 5.0, Camaro SS, Challenger 392, M3, M4? Aside from exhaust mods, are there cams and throttle bodies available to equal and/or best the 507? Thx you in advance.
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Thx you CL63 gang. Your responses and wisdom is very much appreciated. Will a 2012 bolt-on C63 hold it's own against a Stang 5.0, Camaro SS, Challenger 392, M3, M4? Aside from exhaust mods, are there cams and throttle bodies available to equal and/or best the 507? Thx you in advance.
Cams are not worth the hassle. Throttle bodies can be upgraded. They’re all the same from the factory across the various models.
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Unibody Sedans are usually lighter than unibody coupes not just because of the pano roof. The coupe's B pillar sits farther back and the lack of door window frame compromises roll over protection therefore additional support is added to compensate for it.
Same with a convertible they are even heavier than coupes because of additional support.
Best example: Most of the e36 which are converted to track cars are sedans because of the lower weight and lower flex in the body.
Same with a convertible they are even heavier than coupes because of additional support.
Best example: Most of the e36 which are converted to track cars are sedans because of the lower weight and lower flex in the body.
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