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Old May 10, 2019 | 11:56 AM
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Got smoked by a porsche.... feelsbadman

It was a long *** model name.

911 carrera 4 s gts or something. Althought i had a passenger in the car and a bunch of junk from costco. He walked me from a roll twice.

Maybe I was in the wrong gear? I was around 4-5k in 3rd but wanted to start in 2nd gear. Car wouldnt let me downshift to second.

Was his car modded? I usually beat all the porsches except turbo s. Even out-dragged a stock gt3 once.

Already have LTH and tune. Any other cheap power mods?

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Old May 10, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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Get nitrous like me. No more issue. Lol
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Old May 10, 2019 | 01:41 PM
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I think the all wheel drive of the Carrera 4 makes a difference.
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Old May 10, 2019 | 01:52 PM
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From what I understand, all new Porsche's are turbo from factory. So he may have a tune to help with his HP.
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Old May 10, 2019 | 02:09 PM
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Was it a 911 or 718?
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Old May 10, 2019 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Adi-Benz
Was it a 911 or 718?
911
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Old May 10, 2019 | 02:20 PM
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Why are you so surprised? He is several hundred lbs less, with a better transmission and potentially AWD.
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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:02 PM
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Why are you so surprised? He is several hundred lbs less, with a better transmission and potentially AWD.
Exactly what I was going to say
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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tfthach13
Exactly what I was going to say

But but but MUH PONIES
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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:08 PM
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AWD increases losses to the wheels and doesn't offer that much from a roll.
Carera 4 is supposed to be AWD.

Did you dyno your car?
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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:09 PM
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AWD increases losses to the wheels and doesn't offer that much from a roll.
Carera 4 is supposed to be AWD.

Did you dyno your car?
Eurocharged Toronto dynod my car after header install at 499 whp

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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:16 PM
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Weights less, AWD, WAY better transmission and more aerodynamic.
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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:19 PM
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Was he pulling on you during your shifts? Or was he pulling while you're accelerating in gear as well.
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Old May 10, 2019 | 03:22 PM
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Was he pulling on you during your shifts? Or was he pulling while you're accelerating in gear as well.
Not just during my shifts. He was out accelerating me consistently
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Old May 10, 2019 | 04:14 PM
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You’re not gonna beat these new turbo cars with these new transmissions. The c63 used to be a fast car, but needs forced induction to keep it competitive. It’s also laggy af in M mode with upshifts...
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Old May 10, 2019 | 04:19 PM
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911 c4gts is a pretty fast car even stock, and the .2 with the turbo engine can probably make crazy numbers with a tune

https://www.cobbtuning.com/porsche-9...ssport-tuning/

+19% 503whp...
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Old May 10, 2019 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Arjy
911 c4gts is a pretty fast car even stock, and the .2 with the turbo engine can probably make crazy numbers with a tune

https://www.cobbtuning.com/porsche-9...ssport-tuning/

+19% 503whp...
Thanks for this... 500 whp with tune only would explain it. Even stock, they are probably faster than our cars due to weight / shift times.
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Old May 10, 2019 | 04:41 PM
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Thanks for this... 500 whp with tune only would explain it. Even stock, they are probably faster than our cars due to weight / shift times.
They are (30s of the googles to find out), that's why this is a stupid thread.

A faster car beat you.
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Old May 10, 2019 | 06:10 PM
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E85 might help? Or boost.
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Old May 10, 2019 | 06:49 PM
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I still take our cars anyday. Sound alone is way better. I would usually keep it in auto from a roll, the trans hunts for the most aggressive gear.
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Old May 11, 2019 | 05:25 AM
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So, the GTS weight is around 3400 lbs in the AWD version, but advertised (crank) HP is 450 and COBB measures 425 WHP.
Yeah, that is an amazing transmission.
I'm prepared to believe this for a 2WD, AWD I'd say the engine is under rated. And normally under rating doesn't make sense to me, from a corporate stand point.
Now, if the Porsche pulled on you in gear, then the speed of the shifts is not relevant.
From a roll, the AWD also doesn't help. The weight difference is clear, but it does get to a point in speed, where the weight difference doesn't matter that much anymore. Like for Tesla, a heavy car.
Traction control on your car maybe?
Here's why I say this:
All cars I ever heard of, use the front brake pads faster than the rear, call it design idiosyncrasy, but this is how it is.
Except since traction control the rears wear faster than fronts.
Which means that traction control is hard at work without the driver feeling it.
The balance in wear front to rear doesn't change in a car like mine, that spends most of its life at 30 MPH in some sort of traffic, just because I do 2-3 pulls a month. This has to mean that even at 30 MPH, the traction control still taps the rear brakes all the time. Probably to clean the turn lines, to give a feel of stability and who knows what else.
This means to me that dynoing a car like ours with traction control on, you won't get that 500 WHP number.
I also think that the heavier the car, the more intrusive the traction control program is.
And finally, that AMG tech at the dealer did tell me that most of the development work in software updates for our cars, was in traction control. Maybe they knew that this is where the cars were behind.
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Old May 11, 2019 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Arjy
911 c4gts is a pretty fast car even stock, and the .2 with the turbo engine can probably make crazy numbers with a tune

https://www.cobbtuning.com/porsche-9...ssport-tuning/

+19% 503whp...

They are indeed. And that PDK, goddamnit.
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Old May 11, 2019 | 07:01 PM
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Pretty sure that's why everybody turns on dyno mode when they're dynoing it mate. It's not hitting 500whp not because of traction control, but because it's maxed out.

Race em in dyno mode next time lol.
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Can't wait for the "Got smoked by a 720S" thread...
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My dad has an '18 GTS w/ PDK, but not AWD... that's just dumb.

But yeah, that thing was FAST out of the box, I can only imagine w/ a few more PSI and some other minor bolt-ons.
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