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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 12:22 AM
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2013 C63 Car stalling at red light.

I just recently bought this car and when I come to a full stop at a red light and the car is in Sport + I change it to Comfort Mode and the car just stalls. Can someone give me some info on what this can be. It will be gladly appreciated. Thank you
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 03:17 PM
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Sounds like you may have a nasty vacuum leak. What are the codes showing up?
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Had it happen for the first time in my 14 507 the other day, never had an issue in 2.5 years of owning it - was driving it a bit hard in S+ and then M and switched it back to C at a light and died dead and didn't want to restart, put it in park and said it wasn't in P put it back in D then P and it worked and took a few tries to start it back up - super weird but seems to happen a lot. Checked codes and car had no codes to indicate anything went wrong on mine.

In my case I think I put it from M to S+ while I was still moving and not fully stopped, manual says to not do this

Only change from automatic drive program C, S or S+ to manual drive program M when the vehicle is stationary.

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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 05:43 PM
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I just recently bought this car and when I come to a full stop at a red light and the car is in Sport + I change it to Comfort Mode and the car just stalls. Can someone give me some info on what this can be. It will be gladly appreciated. Thank you
First things first check voltage on battery. If battery is maintaining voltage, you can rule that out. Moving on your fuel pumps which are giving out. It will get worse especially when you accelerate on the expressway. You’ll feel the car cutting power. Eventually you’ll get a low pressure fuel code. And you won’t be able to start the car. How many miles on your car? Also it won’t through codes until they completely take a ****

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Sounds like you may have a nasty vacuum leak. What are the codes showing up?
vacuum leaks would raise rpm and would hear a whistling sound under load.

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Had it happen for the first time in my 14 507 the other day, never had an issue in 2.5 years of owning it - was driving it a bit hard in S+ and then M and switched it back to C at a light and died dead and didn't want to restart, put it in park and said it wasn't in P put it back in D then P and it worked and took a few tries to start it back up - super weird but seems to happen a lot. Checked codes and car had no codes to indicate anything went wrong on mine.

In my case I think I put it from M to S+ while I was still moving and not fully stopped, manual says to not do this

Only change from automatic drive program C, S or S+ to manual drive program M when the vehicle is stationary.
it’s not that at all. I’ve changed my car rolling on the expressway at 100mph. Zero issues. From m all the through sport+,sport,c. Also, going from m to c at light wouldn’t cause an engine to shut off. It’s underlying issue of fueling + spark. i.e. fueling pumps losing pressure.

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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 07:33 PM
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Technically you are supposed to be able to go between M, S, C S+ etc while moving, but do it only while sationary and the user maual doesn't say you can or should while moving. It's kind of vague. But if your car is stalling, most likey as mentioned, it is a fuel cut off problem or an ignition issue, or injector issue...you need codes or you will have to start replacing everything and do process of elimination...
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 08:45 PM
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I change my mode while driving. If it was a big deal, the would have made it so you couldn't change it unless the car was stopped. Like reading txt messages while the car is moving.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 11:38 PM
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I change my mode while driving. If it was a big deal, the would have made it so you couldn't change it unless the car was stopped. Like reading txt messages while the car is moving.
mb doesn't allow you to hurt your car despite your own stupidity. There is something wrong with the car. take it in.
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 11:39 PM
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Sounds like you may have a nasty vacuum leak. What are the codes showing up?

This is the only code I’m getting.
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Old May 12, 2021 | 10:27 PM
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Was this ever solved? I just had this problem with my 507. I was driving in S+, stopped at a red light and switched it to C and the car completely died (all lights lit up on the dash). I had to turn off the car completely and start it up again.
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Old May 13, 2021 | 10:26 AM
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I don't have the full answer, but that it can die out at idle might be that the alternator is going bad and cannot put out enough power to run the engine at idle rpm's. Use a voltmeter on the battery terminals while the engine is running, you should see 14V or greater. If it's low 12V or under then it's the alternator.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 12:20 AM
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Was this ever solved? I just had this problem with my 507. I was driving in S+, stopped at a red light and switched it to C and the car completely died (all lights lit up on the dash). I had to turn off the car completely and start it up again.
Same thing just happened to me today. Downshifting pretty hard on an off ramp in S+, stop and switch to C. Car stopped and lights came on. Had to put in park and start.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 10:17 AM
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I drove the car a few more times since then and haven't been able to re-create the issue.
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Old May 16, 2021 | 05:05 PM
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I drove the car a few more times since then and haven't been able to re-create the issue.
I posted last year up a ways in this thread and I have never ever had it happen again either since end of August last year.
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Old May 17, 2021 | 01:05 AM
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Yup, stock car minus a secondary cat delete.
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Old May 17, 2021 | 11:00 AM
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Me too factory software, only mod at the time of the issue was secondary cat delete and high flow primaries - my 12 C63 never experienced the issue the 2 years I had it and had a secondary cat delete on it most of the time and had eurocharged tune on it for 1 year. When it happened to me it was uphill at a light, after some spirited downshifts in M mode, came to a stop but may have been still moving just a little when I moved it from M to S+ mode and engine just shutoff and could not restart after putting in park by hitting the button, had to hit the button a bunch of times probably to get it fully off and back on before it would start and then it started and has been fine ever since.

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Old May 17, 2021 | 12:56 PM
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Eurotuned with LTH and no cats
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I just recently bought this car and when I come to a full stop at a red light and the car is in Sport + I change it to Comfort Mode and the car just stalls. Can someone give me some info on what this can be. It will be gladly appreciated. Thank you
Perhaps unrelated, but I have a 2014 E63s. Started having this problem randomly, and only when my wife was driving. She drives in "C", while I always drive in "S+". The difference is that in S+, the ECO function is disabled. I have access to Xentry, and had BenzNinja work with me to permanently turn off the ECO. Since then, no dying during at stoplights in C or S+. I believe there's a module that is part of the battery charging circuit that can fail causing the issue.

UPDATE: Car died on me twice in one trip. Once in "C", and once in my garage in "S+". So apparently, my fix wasn't a fix after all. The hunt continues.

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Yup, stock car minus a secondary cat delete.
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Me too factory software, only mod at the time of the issue was secondary cat delete and high flow primaries - my 12 C63 never experienced the issue the 2 years I had it and had a secondary cat delete on it most of the time and had eurocharged tune on it for 1 year. When it happened to me it was uphill at a light, after some spirited downshifts in M mode, came to a stop but may have been still moving just a little when I moved it from M to S+ mode and engine just shutoff and could not restart after putting in park by hitting the button, had to hit the button a bunch of times probably to get it fully off and back on before it would start and then it started and has been fine ever since.
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for the stock tune guys, i'd confirm your fuel trims at idle and if your spark plugs are old to replace them. things like a faulty PCV valve if combined with possibly a leaking throttle body mounting plate can cause this.

for the aftermarket tune guys...same thing, but as most if not all shelf tunes do not actually adjust fueling, your fueling generally is way off the mark and the above stated items are accentuated even further.

stock guys, if your fuel trims are more than +/- 5 at idle, you have an air leak from PCV, throttle body mounting plate, or other. tuned, guys...can't help you as i didn't build the tune for you, but generally speaking shelf tunes are usually off by +/- 12 or more. this combined with an air leak does not allow the ECU enough of room for error to correct fueling since fueling is already way off. in turn what occurs is the engine dies when in a perfect situation, the computer will raise the rpm by 50 or make a micro adjustment to fuel.
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I will check my fuel trims, new PCV and new intake manifold gaskets and plugs about 18 months ago, before it stalled that one time, but new doesn't mean no leaks either.
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