390 mm black series rotor conversion
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hmmm see if you can do a hybrid design. Ask girodisk if they can make a custom rear rotor for you. The e63 360mm ring connected to the c63 rotor hub, and maybe it will work that way. Or maybe it won’t work at all lol. But won’t hurt to ask and see if they can.
So could i get a little help with the e-brake setup on the rear rotors?
I am planning to use girodisc rotors front and rear (390/360mm). Unlike the RB rear rotor kit, the girodisc 360mm rear rotors are made for the Black series without the rotor hat adapted for the regular 165mm c63 e-brake. The rear calipers I will be using are the E-class 212 calipers that are shared with the c63 black series.
so the e-class 212 rear e-brake shoe kit (which are 180mm like the c63 black series) will work with the girodisc 360mm rear rotor made for the black series. The part number is A0054203620.
So I guess my question is, will the black series calipers and e-brake shoe kit be everything I need to get my e-brake to work with the 360mm rotors made for black series? Or are there any other brackets, parts , etc that I need for the e-brake?
the shoe kit is $50-80 depending on vendor so if it will work with regular c63 e-brake cable, etc it should make for a neat clean setup.
Thank you for any help
I am planning to use girodisc rotors front and rear (390/360mm). Unlike the RB rear rotor kit, the girodisc 360mm rear rotors are made for the Black series without the rotor hat adapted for the regular 165mm c63 e-brake. The rear calipers I will be using are the E-class 212 calipers that are shared with the c63 black series.
so the e-class 212 rear e-brake shoe kit (which are 180mm like the c63 black series) will work with the girodisc 360mm rear rotor made for the black series. The part number is A0054203620.
So I guess my question is, will the black series calipers and e-brake shoe kit be everything I need to get my e-brake to work with the 360mm rotors made for black series? Or are there any other brackets, parts , etc that I need for the e-brake?
the shoe kit is $50-80 depending on vendor so if it will work with regular c63 e-brake cable, etc it should make for a neat clean setup.
Thank you for any help
Last edited by PhuongNguyen; Dec 21, 2021 at 01:00 AM.
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Can't do a threaded spacer nor standoff.
Being a M14 bolt the standoff/spacer needs to be at least 40is mm long in order to provide the same or more strength than the bolt itself.
Being a M14 bolt the standoff/spacer needs to be at least 40is mm long in order to provide the same or more strength than the bolt itself.
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Has anyone thought about using 15mm threaded steel spacers? The 390mm rotors are pushed out 15mm each side. So the caliper will need to be pushed out 15mm. Using a 15mm threaded spacer between the stock caliper and bracket will extend it. You’ll also need 15mm longer cap bolts
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why would a spacer move the wheels towards the spokes? Also do you not understand what the custom brackets do? They are thicker for a reason. They move the calipers outwards about 15mm to cover larger 390mm calipers. You aren’t able to use the 18” c63 wheels when upgrading to the 390mm caliper.
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how would a spacer move the calipers laterally towards the spokes? What do you think the custom brackets do? Hold the calipers in the exact same position? Go compare the stock brackets to the custom ones. The custom one moves the calipers outwards about 15mm to cover the larger 390mm rotors. You have to get at least 19” wheels regardless. 20” depending on barrel design.
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why would a spacer move the wheels towards the spokes? Also do you not understand what the custom brackets do? They are thicker for a reason. They move the calipers outwards about 15mm to cover larger 390mm calipers. You aren’t able to use the 18” c63 wheels when upgrading to the 390mm caliper.
how would a spacer move the calipers laterally towards the spokes? What do you think the custom brackets do? Hold the calipers in the exact same position? Go compare the stock brackets to the custom ones. The custom one moves the calipers outwards about 15mm to cover the larger 390mm rotors. You have to get at least 19” wheels regardless. 20” depending on barrel design.
If you move the caliper away from the hub toward the barrel it can come in contact with the inward curving spokes.
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if that’s the case then the custom caliper brackets will do the same because they themselves move the calipers outwards about 15mm. Do you not understand that part??
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couple thousand for the front calipers from the black series. Not worth it.
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same size calipers as black series, just with a different carrier bracket on the BS fronts to accommodate the 390 rotors. The rear BS brakes are a bit different with the knuckles being casted a bit longer on the rear calipers to accommodate the 360’s.
couple thousand for the front calipers from the black series. Not worth it.
couple thousand for the front calipers from the black series. Not worth it.
I just installed the 390mm brakes on my car and made some videos on instagram @63amgeek
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