Considering selling my 2012 c63 sedan
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Considering selling my 2012 c63 sedan
Trying to see if it’s worth it to sell or not in this crazy car market. It’s a non p31 car. Higher mileage 90k miles, no accidents, all maintenance history, runs amazing. Only mods are long tube headers and a tune. Obsidian black. HIDs, automatic brights and wipers. I’ve seen values all over the place. I was thinking around 30k. I don’t have access to MMR or auctions values anymore.
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Having just entered into this platform I think you would be a little crazy to sell. You are already way beyond collector car mileage, the first question everyone is going to ask will concern head bolts, cam adjuster plates, and lifters (and rightly so), and there isn't a more impressive car in the same price range. Also I think you are high on your estimate as I just purchased mine which is an absolutely mint one owner 2009 with only 24k miles for $32,500. Clean title, no wrecks, and all maintenance history recorded.
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Having just entered into this platform I think you would be a little crazy to sell. You are already way beyond collector car mileage, the first question everyone is going to ask will concern head bolts, cam adjuster plates, and lifters (and rightly so), and there isn't a more impressive car in the same price range. Also I think you are high on your estimate as I just purchased mine which is an absolutely mint one owner 2009 with only 24k miles for $32,500. Clean title, no wrecks, and all maintenance history recorded.
Them facelifted 204s do not have some of those issues that the pre-facelift ones do.
If his asking price starts at $30k, it would only mean the sold-price later will be less, as oppose to your purchase price of already-$32.5k, the difference in age & mileage really offset each other between the two; if one would consider buying yours, he'd have to worry about those potential issues, while OP's car has record showing that it has no such issue even when taking up to that high of mileage (but really, facelift ones just don't have them, especially the headbolts).
In terms of "impressive car in the same price range", this i 100% side with, unless OP already has his eyes on something else, and completely disregard a parallel move.
In regards to "collector car", IMO neither one of yours would be it - however, they are an excellent "enthusiast car"; if it's an edition 507 or if it has the P31 pkg, BaT would even let you list it up there.
Disclaimer: the M156 in my CLK63BS would be just like the pre-facelift 204C63 in terms of potential head-bolt issue, so i did get that precautionary work done by Weistec when I just got the car, no issues whatsoever after 8yrs of ownership and currently at 18k miles; the M156 in the C63BS I just bought a month ago, would not have the head-bolt issue to begin with, and at just 9k miles, I can hardly see anything else I'd worry about, especially with the stronger SLS internals that it came with.
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Not to rain on your parade, congrats on your 09', but his '12 would have no issue on the head bolts, period.
Them facelifted 204s do not have some of those issues that the pre-facelift ones do.
If his asking price starts at $30k, it would only mean the sold-price later will be less, as oppose to your purchase price of already-$32.5k, the difference in age & mileage really offset each other between the two; if one would consider buying yours, he'd have to worry about those potential issues, while OP's car has record showing that it has no such issue even when taking up to that high of mileage (but really, facelift ones just don't have them, especially the headbolts).
In terms of "impressive car in the same price range", this i 100% side with, unless OP already has his eyes on something else, and completely disregard a parallel move.
In regards to "collector car", IMO neither one of yours would be it - however, they are an excellent "enthusiast car"; if it's an edition 507 or if it has the P31 pkg, BaT would even let you list it up there.
Disclaimer: the M156 in my CLK63BS would be just like the pre-facelift 204C63 in terms of potential head-bolt issue, so i did get that precautionary work done by Weistec when I just got the car, no issues whatsoever after 8yrs of ownership and currently at 18k miles; the M156 in the C63BS I just bought a month ago, would not have the head-bolt issue to begin with, and at just 9k miles, I can hardly see anything else I'd worry about, especially with the stronger SLS internals that it came with.
Them facelifted 204s do not have some of those issues that the pre-facelift ones do.
If his asking price starts at $30k, it would only mean the sold-price later will be less, as oppose to your purchase price of already-$32.5k, the difference in age & mileage really offset each other between the two; if one would consider buying yours, he'd have to worry about those potential issues, while OP's car has record showing that it has no such issue even when taking up to that high of mileage (but really, facelift ones just don't have them, especially the headbolts).
In terms of "impressive car in the same price range", this i 100% side with, unless OP already has his eyes on something else, and completely disregard a parallel move.
In regards to "collector car", IMO neither one of yours would be it - however, they are an excellent "enthusiast car"; if it's an edition 507 or if it has the P31 pkg, BaT would even let you list it up there.
Disclaimer: the M156 in my CLK63BS would be just like the pre-facelift 204C63 in terms of potential head-bolt issue, so i did get that precautionary work done by Weistec when I just got the car, no issues whatsoever after 8yrs of ownership and currently at 18k miles; the M156 in the C63BS I just bought a month ago, would not have the head-bolt issue to begin with, and at just 9k miles, I can hardly see anything else I'd worry about, especially with the stronger SLS internals that it came with.
Funny, for some reason I read 2010 rather than 2012. There is no rain as I’m personally not interested in collecting but driving. Agreed on enthusiast status.
Clean 2012 example on cars and bids from three months ago, with half the miles, that sold for 29k.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/98M...s-benz-c63-amg
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Funny, for some reason I read 2010 rather than 2012. There is no rain as I’m personally not interested in collecting but driving. Agreed on enthusiast status.
Clean 2012 example on cars and bids from three months ago, with half the miles, that sold for 29k.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/98M...s-benz-c63-amg
Clean 2012 example on cars and bids from three months ago, with half the miles, that sold for 29k.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/98M...s-benz-c63-amg
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-32/
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Prices have been on the upward trend, just a month and a half ago from BaT, non-507/non-p31, just because under 10k miles, sold for $50.5k + 5% fee.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-32/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-32/
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Having just entered into this platform I think you would be a little crazy to sell. You are already way beyond collector car mileage, the first question everyone is going to ask will concern head bolts, cam adjuster plates, and lifters (and rightly so), and there isn't a more impressive car in the same price range. Also I think you are high on your estimate as I just purchased mine which is an absolutely mint one owner 2009 with only 24k miles for $32,500. Clean title, no wrecks, and all maintenance history recorded.
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Prices have been on the upward trend, just a month and a half ago from BaT, non-507/non-p31, just because under 10k miles, sold for $50.5k + 5% fee.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-32/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-32/
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I'm not picking on you OP but that car has 9,000 miles and yours has 90,000 miles. That is a huge huge difference to a potential buyer.
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and this was last year, price trend in 2022 goes even higher than 2021, we can always revisit this topic in the upcoming months leading to this Summer
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lol and that is why the 9k miles one was able to sell for more than 80% on top of the asking-price that OP had in mind ($30k v.s. $55k)...
and this was last year, price trend in 2022 goes even higher than 2021, we can always revisit this topic in the upcoming months leading to this Summer
and this was last year, price trend in 2022 goes even higher than 2021, we can always revisit this topic in the upcoming months leading to this Summer
What about the 2012 with half OPs mileage that just sold three months ago for 29k on cars and bids? Any comments for that one?
Additionally, your thinking is just plain off. Really low mileage cars, like 9k, can easily sell from 2 to 5 times more than high mileage cars in an enthusiast market.
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What about the 2012 with half OPs mileage that just sold three months ago for 29k on cars and bids? Any comments for that one?
Additionally, your thinking is just plain off. Really low mileage cars, like 9k, can easily sell from 2 to 5 times more than high mileage cars in an enthusiast market.
Additionally, your thinking is just plain off. Really low mileage cars, like 9k, can easily sell from 2 to 5 times more than high mileage cars in an enthusiast market.
that $29k from 3mo. ago is equivalent to $35k or more today if it pop back onto the market, and the one sold for $55k on BaT a month or so ago would easily hit over $60k in 1Q 2022.
the same play would trickle down to OP's car too; his $30k-asking is a price point lower than the $29k one sold 3mo. ago because of this inflation..
and no, low mileage cars do NOT go for 2~5x more than higher mileage cars; if that is the case, a C63BS can be found for less than $30k~$80k if it has 20k~50k miles because one with <10k miles was sold for $150k on BaT?
a month or so ago I literately just paid cash on an off-market private seller for the rarest C63BS in the states, less than 10k miles too like the one sold on BaT, but it was not over $200k (although pretty close), at the same time, two listing of C63BS with 30k & 50k miles from iLusso (ex-Pagani Newport Beach) were sold for over $125k+ each:
https://www.ilusso.com/used-vehicle-...-series-c-155/
https://www.ilusso.com/used-vehicle-...-series-c-154/
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lol and that is why the 9k miles one was able to sell for more than 80% on top of the asking-price that OP had in mind ($30k v.s. $55k)...
and this was last year, price trend in 2022 goes even higher than 2021, we can always revisit this topic in the upcoming months leading to this Summer
and this was last year, price trend in 2022 goes even higher than 2021, we can always revisit this topic in the upcoming months leading to this Summer
25k mile 2012 bid to $34,250, telling that a 25k mile car didn't even hit $35k
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-41/
14k mile 2009 for 33k
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-31/
45k mile 2013 for $36,750
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-26/
19k mile 2013 bid to $39,263. The fact that this didn't even hit 40k and didn't sell says it all.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-22/
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Let us revisit, you still think 90k mile non p-30 C63s like OP's car are going to hit 30k this summer? I don't think they are, not even close. I could only see $30k for a 90k mile non p30 if it had some spectacular color combo and was super clean.
25k mile 2012 bid to $34,250, telling that a 25k mile car didn't even hit $35k
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-41/
14k mile 2009 for 33k
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-31/
45k mile 2013 for $36,750
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-26/
19k mile 2013 bid to $39,263. The fact that this didn't even hit 40k and didn't sell says it all.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-22/
25k mile 2012 bid to $34,250, telling that a 25k mile car didn't even hit $35k
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-41/
14k mile 2009 for 33k
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-31/
45k mile 2013 for $36,750
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-26/
19k mile 2013 bid to $39,263. The fact that this didn't even hit 40k and didn't sell says it all.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-22/
First of all, $30k asking, is just what that is, an asking, i did not say that would be the sold price, now, lets use that for the rest of what you've mentioned:
1.) 25k mi '12 bid up to $34k, if it was sold, buyer would pay roughly $35.7k, but it did not, so transaction didn't happen anyways.
2.) 14k mi '09 did sell for $33k, which means the buyer paid $34.6k; in comparison, OP's mileage is more than 6x while the car is also 3yrs newer, PFL vs FL, with a $30k asking, buyer might be paying $27k (10% off?), not a bad deal in comparison no?
3.) 45k mi '13 for $36,750 means buyer paid $38.5k, now if whomever buys from OP's $30k asking did pay $27k, that's a $11.5k or around 30% in difference, for being twice the mileage and a year older, how is that not a good deal?
4.) just like #1, if it doesn't sell, it really doesn't say much, actually, besides the fact that the seller had a higher reserve and believes the car is worth more, and the prospects that bid on it did not agree.
After all, you also conveniently left out these "sold" listings prior to those BUT after my last reply:
this 27k mi '09 where buyer paid $43.3k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-24/
this 25k mi '08 where buyer paid $41.4k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...enz-c63-amg-5/
and this 40k mil '12 where buyer paid $51.1k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-37/
Again, OP's $30k "asking" is more than fair, thank you for proving my point.
On top of that, looks like another well spec'ed & low mileage C63BS made a splash for $180k, a 20% hike from the previous high of $150k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-38/
Anyways, the 204's are doing quite well in the last couple of months and don't seem to be stopping at all.
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sure thing lets do it-
First of all, $30k asking, is just what that is, an asking, i did not say that would be the sold price, now, lets use that for the rest of what you've mentioned:
1.) 25k mi '12 bid up to $34k, if it was sold, buyer would pay roughly $35.7k, but it did not, so transaction didn't happen anyways.
2.) 14k mi '09 did sell for $33k, which means the buyer paid $34.6k; in comparison, OP's mileage is more than 6x while the car is also 3yrs newer, PFL vs FL, with a $30k asking, buyer might be paying $27k (10% off?), not a bad deal in comparison no?
3.) 45k mi '13 for $36,750 means buyer paid $38.5k, now if whomever buys from OP's $30k asking did pay $27k, that's a $11.5k or around 30% in difference, for being twice the mileage and a year older, how is that not a good deal?
4.) just like #1, if it doesn't sell, it really doesn't say much, actually, besides the fact that the seller had a higher reserve and believes the car is worth more, and the prospects that bid on it did not agree.
After all, you also conveniently left out these "sold" listings prior to those BUT after my last reply:
this 27k mi '09 where buyer paid $43.3k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-24/
this 25k mi '08 where buyer paid $41.4k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...enz-c63-amg-5/
and this 40k mil '12 where buyer paid $51.1k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-37/
Again, OP's $30k "asking" is more than fair, thank you for proving my point.
On top of that, looks like another well spec'ed & low mileage C63BS made a splash for $180k, a 20% hike from the previous high of $150k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-38/
Anyways, the 204's are doing quite well in the last couple of months and don't seem to be stopping at all.
Enjoy!
First of all, $30k asking, is just what that is, an asking, i did not say that would be the sold price, now, lets use that for the rest of what you've mentioned:
1.) 25k mi '12 bid up to $34k, if it was sold, buyer would pay roughly $35.7k, but it did not, so transaction didn't happen anyways.
2.) 14k mi '09 did sell for $33k, which means the buyer paid $34.6k; in comparison, OP's mileage is more than 6x while the car is also 3yrs newer, PFL vs FL, with a $30k asking, buyer might be paying $27k (10% off?), not a bad deal in comparison no?
3.) 45k mi '13 for $36,750 means buyer paid $38.5k, now if whomever buys from OP's $30k asking did pay $27k, that's a $11.5k or around 30% in difference, for being twice the mileage and a year older, how is that not a good deal?
4.) just like #1, if it doesn't sell, it really doesn't say much, actually, besides the fact that the seller had a higher reserve and believes the car is worth more, and the prospects that bid on it did not agree.
After all, you also conveniently left out these "sold" listings prior to those BUT after my last reply:
this 27k mi '09 where buyer paid $43.3k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-24/
this 25k mi '08 where buyer paid $41.4k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...enz-c63-amg-5/
and this 40k mil '12 where buyer paid $51.1k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-37/
Again, OP's $30k "asking" is more than fair, thank you for proving my point.
On top of that, looks like another well spec'ed & low mileage C63BS made a splash for $180k, a 20% hike from the previous high of $150k: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-38/
Anyways, the 204's are doing quite well in the last couple of months and don't seem to be stopping at all.
Enjoy!
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all i've said was that OP's "asking" price of $30k isn't unreasonable.
but the funny thing is that you've said this:
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where have i said it would sold for $30k?
all i've said was that OP's "asking" price of $30k isn't unreasonable.
but the funny thing is that you've said this:
yet, the C63BS here w/ 5k miles (https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-38/) did not sell for "2 to 5 times more than" the C63BS here w/ 28k miles (https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-39/).
all i've said was that OP's "asking" price of $30k isn't unreasonable.
but the funny thing is that you've said this:
yet, the C63BS here w/ 5k miles (https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-38/) did not sell for "2 to 5 times more than" the C63BS here w/ 28k miles (https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-c63-amg-39/).
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I just listed many cars with way less mileage and facelift that didn’t sell or sold so poorly that what I said stands. A non p30 c63 with 90k miles isn’t hitting 30k. Not even all that close unless something special with regards to color combo. Sure anyone can ask anything but it isn’t happening.
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why not? because it's convenient to you? they're 204s too, it's definitely relevant to me because that is what i have; if it is really a different animal, i wonder why it still doesn't have its own sub-forum.
yet, it's also a '12 facelift rather than your '09; anyways, you've literately just repeated what i've said in the very beginning, $30k asking is just an asking, no sh*t:
yet, it's also a '12 facelift rather than your '09; anyways, you've literately just repeated what i've said in the very beginning, $30k asking is just an asking, no sh*t:
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and you seem to go back and forth in regards what is a collector car, because it was clear that you mentioned this from the first reply in this thread:
don't answer that, please, you've done enough of contradictions already.
