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Hi guys, this is the best I could get of my car with eurocharged V7 stage 2 on 91 oct, cars got AFE filters, both the cats deleted and fresh Pirelli pzero tires…..I’m not sure if the tune is working…. Getting it on a dyno in few days….Any suggestions as of now would be appreciated Thank you
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I believe your trapspeed is actually quite low.
It would be a good idea to dyno it to sort out some problems if you see any.
Mine traps slightly above 200km/h
Trapspeed shouldn´t suffer so much just because a bad hit from the dig.
It would be a good idea to dyno it to sort out some problems if you see any.
Mine traps slightly above 200km/h
Trapspeed shouldn´t suffer so much just because a bad hit from the dig.
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Hi, what’s ur setup and ur 1/4 mile timing ?
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If your stage two is designed for headers and you have stock manifolds running stage two it could pull timing. Even a tune only no other mods with a negative DA should be much higher than 109. You need to get your car checked out. How many miles on your car? Is maintenance up to date spark plugs ect ect. Maybe it’s an intake manifold gasket leak pretty common and can cause issues too.
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If your stage two is designed for headers and you have stock manifolds running stage two it could pull timing. Even a tune only no other mods with a negative DA should be much higher than 109. You need to get your car checked out. How many miles on your car? Is maintenance up to date spark plugs ect ect. Maybe it’s an intake manifold gasket leak pretty common and can cause issues too.
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Basic stuff actually.
K&N filters.
CKS headers WITH 100 cell cats.
Custom 2x3" exhaust designed and built by me(special X-pipe with 4" resonator in the middle)
82mm throttlebodies with portmatched intakemanifold.
And an important thing check if pcv valve system is sealed as it should, if leaking the fueltrim can go nuts.
And upgrade intake manifold bolts to steel instead of aluminum, this way you can torque down intake better to ensure seal.
K&N filters.
CKS headers WITH 100 cell cats.
Custom 2x3" exhaust designed and built by me(special X-pipe with 4" resonator in the middle)
82mm throttlebodies with portmatched intakemanifold.
And an important thing check if pcv valve system is sealed as it should, if leaking the fueltrim can go nuts.
And upgrade intake manifold bolts to steel instead of aluminum, this way you can torque down intake better to ensure seal.
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Basic stuff actually.
K&N filters.
CKS headers WITH 100 cell cats.
Custom 2x3" exhaust designed and built by me(special X-pipe with 4" resonator in the middle)
82mm throttlebodies with portmatched intakemanifold.
And an important thing check if pcv valve system is sealed as it should, if leaking the fueltrim can go nuts.
And upgrade intake manifold bolts to steel instead of aluminum, this way you can torque down intake better to ensure seal.
K&N filters.
CKS headers WITH 100 cell cats.
Custom 2x3" exhaust designed and built by me(special X-pipe with 4" resonator in the middle)
82mm throttlebodies with portmatched intakemanifold.
And an important thing check if pcv valve system is sealed as it should, if leaking the fueltrim can go nuts.
And upgrade intake manifold bolts to steel instead of aluminum, this way you can torque down intake better to ensure seal.
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Hey mate,
Hate to say it, but you need a new tuner.
I had exactly the same issue as you, except i didn't learn my lesson after the first experience with a sub par "can" tune.
Bite the bullet and have Eightysixtuned/hachiroku tune your car. It'll be a night and day difference.
Hate to say it, but you need a new tuner.
I had exactly the same issue as you, except i didn't learn my lesson after the first experience with a sub par "can" tune.
Bite the bullet and have Eightysixtuned/hachiroku tune your car. It'll be a night and day difference.
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Hey mate,
Hate to say it, but you need a new tuner.
I had exactly the same issue as you, except i didn't learn my lesson after the first experience with a sub par "can" tune.
Bite the bullet and have Eightysixtuned/hachiroku tune your car. It'll be a night and day difference.
Hate to say it, but you need a new tuner.
I had exactly the same issue as you, except i didn't learn my lesson after the first experience with a sub par "can" tune.
Bite the bullet and have Eightysixtuned/hachiroku tune your car. It'll be a night and day difference.
thanks for the suggestions.
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Hey mate,
have a look through my post history detailing my experience with Eurocharged and International Autohaus/evotech here in Australia. To save you some time, it didn't end well.
EC didn't want to know anything about any of the problems i was having with their V7 tune. Jerry basically ignored me after I'd sent him multiple emails explaining the weird driving characteristics of the car, sporadic and awkward shift points for the transmission and the car running incredibly rich at idle, and leaning out as rpms increased. They refused to acknowledge any issues and basically told me to bugger off, and all issues must be related to my car and not the tune. IAH/Evotech wasn't any better, with both the tuner in Sydney and the local rep here ignoring me when i emailed them with my concerns and "evidence" of something not being 100% right.
Barry/hachiroku from Eightysixtuned has been the only tuner who has taken the time to explain to me what is actually going on, and work with me to develop a tune that is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else available on the market. The best thing is, he doesn't ignore you once he has been paid.
I don't want to come across as preachy, but I hate seeing people get taken advantage of, and making the exact same mistakes I made when i first went down the rabbit hole of modifying my C63.
A dyno isn't going to fix your problems. What will most likely happen is, they'll run it up on a dyno, adjust the correction factors and now you have a car that has 450whp.
It's cheaper in the long run, and less of a ballache to have hachiroku set you up with a decent tune. Failing that, at least opt for something half decent for an off the shelf tune. Like something from Renntech or Weistec.
have a look through my post history detailing my experience with Eurocharged and International Autohaus/evotech here in Australia. To save you some time, it didn't end well.
EC didn't want to know anything about any of the problems i was having with their V7 tune. Jerry basically ignored me after I'd sent him multiple emails explaining the weird driving characteristics of the car, sporadic and awkward shift points for the transmission and the car running incredibly rich at idle, and leaning out as rpms increased. They refused to acknowledge any issues and basically told me to bugger off, and all issues must be related to my car and not the tune. IAH/Evotech wasn't any better, with both the tuner in Sydney and the local rep here ignoring me when i emailed them with my concerns and "evidence" of something not being 100% right.
Barry/hachiroku from Eightysixtuned has been the only tuner who has taken the time to explain to me what is actually going on, and work with me to develop a tune that is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else available on the market. The best thing is, he doesn't ignore you once he has been paid.
I don't want to come across as preachy, but I hate seeing people get taken advantage of, and making the exact same mistakes I made when i first went down the rabbit hole of modifying my C63.
A dyno isn't going to fix your problems. What will most likely happen is, they'll run it up on a dyno, adjust the correction factors and now you have a car that has 450whp.
It's cheaper in the long run, and less of a ballache to have hachiroku set you up with a decent tune. Failing that, at least opt for something half decent for an off the shelf tune. Like something from Renntech or Weistec.
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I have no dog in this fight. EC hasn't touched my car and no one else has tuned my car since I've bought it.
I wouldn't even drive that car until it gets retuned by someone reputable. EC tunes have destroyed engine after engine.
Its not your fault you bought a tune from them.
It would appear their sales and legal departments are top notch and their tuning is just some child trying to put round pegs in square holes.
If you want to turn a 4 figure bill into a 5 figure bill, keep running the car on the tune.
Otherwise I'd heed the advice of the man who wrote his entire experience several times to try and help folks like yourself.
I wouldn't even drive that car until it gets retuned by someone reputable. EC tunes have destroyed engine after engine.
Its not your fault you bought a tune from them.
It would appear their sales and legal departments are top notch and their tuning is just some child trying to put round pegs in square holes.
If you want to turn a 4 figure bill into a 5 figure bill, keep running the car on the tune.
Otherwise I'd heed the advice of the man who wrote his entire experience several times to try and help folks like yourself.
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Hey mate,
have a look through my post history detailing my experience with Eurocharged and International Autohaus/evotech here in Australia. To save you some time, it didn't end well.
EC didn't want to know anything about any of the problems i was having with their V7 tune. Jerry basically ignored me after I'd sent him multiple emails explaining the weird driving characteristics of the car, sporadic and awkward shift points for the transmission and the car running incredibly rich at idle, and leaning out as rpms increased. They refused to acknowledge any issues and basically told me to bugger off, and all issues must be related to my car and not the tune. IAH/Evotech wasn't any better, with both the tuner in Sydney and the local rep here ignoring me when i emailed them with my concerns and "evidence" of something not being 100% right.
Barry/hachiroku from Eightysixtuned has been the only tuner who has taken the time to explain to me what is actually going on, and work with me to develop a tune that is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else available on the market. The best thing is, he doesn't ignore you once he has been paid.
I don't want to come across as preachy, but I hate seeing people get taken advantage of, and making the exact same mistakes I made when i first went down the rabbit hole of modifying my C63.
A dyno isn't going to fix your problems. What will most likely happen is, they'll run it up on a dyno, adjust the correction factors and now you have a car that has 450whp.
It's cheaper in the long run, and less of a ballache to have hachiroku set you up with a decent tune. Failing that, at least opt for something half decent for an off the shelf tune. Like something from Renntech or Weistec.
have a look through my post history detailing my experience with Eurocharged and International Autohaus/evotech here in Australia. To save you some time, it didn't end well.
EC didn't want to know anything about any of the problems i was having with their V7 tune. Jerry basically ignored me after I'd sent him multiple emails explaining the weird driving characteristics of the car, sporadic and awkward shift points for the transmission and the car running incredibly rich at idle, and leaning out as rpms increased. They refused to acknowledge any issues and basically told me to bugger off, and all issues must be related to my car and not the tune. IAH/Evotech wasn't any better, with both the tuner in Sydney and the local rep here ignoring me when i emailed them with my concerns and "evidence" of something not being 100% right.
Barry/hachiroku from Eightysixtuned has been the only tuner who has taken the time to explain to me what is actually going on, and work with me to develop a tune that is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else available on the market. The best thing is, he doesn't ignore you once he has been paid.
I don't want to come across as preachy, but I hate seeing people get taken advantage of, and making the exact same mistakes I made when i first went down the rabbit hole of modifying my C63.
A dyno isn't going to fix your problems. What will most likely happen is, they'll run it up on a dyno, adjust the correction factors and now you have a car that has 450whp.
It's cheaper in the long run, and less of a ballache to have hachiroku set you up with a decent tune. Failing that, at least opt for something half decent for an off the shelf tune. Like something from Renntech or Weistec.
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Nope, car was/is mechanically perfect. Issue's were 100% tune related. I have a fairly detailed write up of what the issues were on my dragy times thread, and my build thread. The cliff notes version is, EC V7 was a trash tune, and IAH/Evotechs tune was basically stock.
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Hey mate,
have a look through my post history detailing my experience with Eurocharged and International Autohaus/evotech here in Australia. To save you some time, it didn't end well.
EC didn't want to know anything about any of the problems i was having with their V7 tune. Jerry basically ignored me after I'd sent him multiple emails explaining the weird driving characteristics of the car, sporadic and awkward shift points for the transmission and the car running incredibly rich at idle, and leaning out as rpms increased. They refused to acknowledge any issues and basically told me to bugger off, and all issues must be related to my car and not the tune. IAH/Evotech wasn't any better, with both the tuner in Sydney and the local rep here ignoring me when i emailed them with my concerns and "evidence" of something not being 100% right.
Barry/hachiroku from Eightysixtuned has been the only tuner who has taken the time to explain to me what is actually going on, and work with me to develop a tune that is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else available on the market. The best thing is, he doesn't ignore you once he has been paid.
I don't want to come across as preachy, but I hate seeing people get taken advantage of, and making the exact same mistakes I made when i first went down the rabbit hole of modifying my C63.
A dyno isn't going to fix your problems. What will most likely happen is, they'll run it up on a dyno, adjust the correction factors and now you have a car that has 450whp.
It's cheaper in the long run, and less of a ballache to have hachiroku set you up with a decent tune. Failing that, at least opt for something half decent for an off the shelf tune. Like something from Renntech or Weistec.
have a look through my post history detailing my experience with Eurocharged and International Autohaus/evotech here in Australia. To save you some time, it didn't end well.
EC didn't want to know anything about any of the problems i was having with their V7 tune. Jerry basically ignored me after I'd sent him multiple emails explaining the weird driving characteristics of the car, sporadic and awkward shift points for the transmission and the car running incredibly rich at idle, and leaning out as rpms increased. They refused to acknowledge any issues and basically told me to bugger off, and all issues must be related to my car and not the tune. IAH/Evotech wasn't any better, with both the tuner in Sydney and the local rep here ignoring me when i emailed them with my concerns and "evidence" of something not being 100% right.
Barry/hachiroku from Eightysixtuned has been the only tuner who has taken the time to explain to me what is actually going on, and work with me to develop a tune that is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else available on the market. The best thing is, he doesn't ignore you once he has been paid.
I don't want to come across as preachy, but I hate seeing people get taken advantage of, and making the exact same mistakes I made when i first went down the rabbit hole of modifying my C63.
A dyno isn't going to fix your problems. What will most likely happen is, they'll run it up on a dyno, adjust the correction factors and now you have a car that has 450whp.
It's cheaper in the long run, and less of a ballache to have hachiroku set you up with a decent tune. Failing that, at least opt for something half decent for an off the shelf tune. Like something from Renntech or Weistec.
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I have no dog in this fight. EC hasn't touched my car and no one else has tuned my car since I've bought it.
I wouldn't even drive that car until it gets retuned by someone reputable. EC tunes have destroyed engine after engine.
Its not your fault you bought a tune from them.
It would appear their sales and legal departments are top notch and their tuning is just some child trying to put round pegs in square holes.
If you want to turn a 4 figure bill into a 5 figure bill, keep running the car on the tune.
Otherwise I'd heed the advice of the man who wrote his entire experience several times to try and help folks like yourself.
I wouldn't even drive that car until it gets retuned by someone reputable. EC tunes have destroyed engine after engine.
Its not your fault you bought a tune from them.
It would appear their sales and legal departments are top notch and their tuning is just some child trying to put round pegs in square holes.
If you want to turn a 4 figure bill into a 5 figure bill, keep running the car on the tune.
Otherwise I'd heed the advice of the man who wrote his entire experience several times to try and help folks like yourself.
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Yup that’s what happened to me I heard only good things about EC when I first researched about tuning my C63, many people on the forum have also only complimented them, but it is not working for my car…is it bcz of the remote tune ? I don't know… yes I have read that bad tunes can blow up engines… now I am scared! I think I’ll pull the plug and ask EC for refund.
FWIW I haven't seen EC tune blowing up engines. Care to provide info or is this just general hear say?
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Tuning any car adds some risks and impacts warranty (in this case obviously not an issue here). But if you are worried about some stage1 tune from anyone you should not proceed. Pay to play...
FWIW I haven't seen EC tune blowing up engines. Care to provide info or is this just general hear say?
FWIW I haven't seen EC tune blowing up engines. Care to provide info or is this just general hear say?
I'm not going to dig them out for you because I work for a living but if you'd humor the idea and search, you can find a lot of information in particular about this.
Do I have court cases and judgments proving EC did this? Certainly not.
I shouldn't need any to solicit advice and secondhand information either, I have no legal obligation and this is not libelous in the slightest and if EC wants to try and go down that road by calling in the Forum Fuzz they can certainly send me a private message.
Have I taken companies to court over faulty car/shady car situations? More times than I'd like to admit.
Anecdotally being one person and having a bad result is one thing but I have literally never seen a company continuously ruin well operating cars and still have the ability to sponsor the same forum their also allowed to advertise on. EC regularly downgrades their competitors who are actively helping EC clients try and figure out what happened to the cars they've spent thousands of dollars on because EC either
A. Doesnt reply when actively asked for support.
B. Doesn't provide an adequate resolution for their customers whose drivetrains have been thrashed to bits.
Seriously, as a forum moderator you should really consider having them at least banned from the M156/M159 section as a vendor/sponsor/etc.
Outside of seeing a shop/tuner steal someones car or parts off their car, this is one of the most egregious examples of actively scamming a community I've ever seen.
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