Next AMG C63 to ditch V8 for hybrid four-pot
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Next AMG C63 to ditch V8 for hybrid four-pot
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i dont want this to be true...i believe its going to be electrified v8 turbo.
we need multiple credible sources for this to really be true (in my opinion).
MB can get away with the small engine and electric like the project 1, but thats a different kind of class of car.
i dont want this to be true...i believe its going to be electrified v8 turbo.
we need multiple credible sources for this to really be true (in my opinion).
MB can get away with the small engine and electric like the project 1, but thats a different kind of class of car.
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blasphamy!
i dont want this to be true...i believe its going to be electrified v8 turbo.
we need multiple credible sources for this to really be true (in my opinion).
MB can get away with the small engine and electric like the project 1, but thats a different kind of class of car.
i dont want this to be true...i believe its going to be electrified v8 turbo.
we need multiple credible sources for this to really be true (in my opinion).
MB can get away with the small engine and electric like the project 1, but thats a different kind of class of car.
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I don't believe this. There was another article going around at the 2021 AMG GT getting an EQ Boost powertrain AND a 500lb weight savings and AWD. No way you do all of of that and save 500 lbs.
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Yup, awd will add more weight. If the c43 was rwd I bet it would get 2-3 mpg better than the awd variant.
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I dunno.. I do believe it.. multiple reports and thats a lot of money in that 4 cylinder turbo from the A45/CLA45/GLA45/GLB45
Those cars are pretty cool, but the v8 sound selss me many C63's over the M3/4
Those cars are pretty cool, but the v8 sound selss me many C63's over the M3/4
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As a past owner of 5 MB including a C63, when has Benz launched an AMG car that was not better than the predecessor, I wouldn't worry about a maybe, it will be just fine. When I sold my W204 everyone was so worried that the W205 would be a smaller V8. That seems to have worked out pretty well..
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Killing the car
If c63 get a 4 cylinder then I believe it's end for c63. But how can they make c63 4 cylinder and keep 43 V6?
First they killed the sound in 2019 model and now they making it to 4 cylinder. It's the sound that give rider enjoyment of driving V8.
First they killed the sound in 2019 model and now they making it to 4 cylinder. It's the sound that give rider enjoyment of driving V8.
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Don’t hold your breath. People love new tech and will make the V8 seem outdated. I know, I know it’s hard to see it now but it happens.
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As a past owner of 5 MB including a C63, when has Benz launched an AMG car that was not better than the predecessor, I wouldn't worry about a maybe, it will be just fine. When I sold my W204 everyone was so worried that the W205 would be a smaller V8. That seems to have worked out pretty well..
You'll probably have better overall performance with the new generation, but who really cares unless your tracking the car or street racing.
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Sorry got to disagree, the change from the V8 is drastically different then the changes from previous generations - sound alone is a major selling point of the car, and as someone with a C43 I can tell you this car lacks the driving experience you'd find with the V8.
You'll probably have better overall performance with the new generation, but who really cares unless your tracking the car or street racing.
You'll probably have better overall performance with the new generation, but who really cares unless your tracking the car or street racing.
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The emission regulations only become more strict. Keeping the status quo will not be possible.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...emissions-regs
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...emissions-regs
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I read this on Jalopnik, and this rumour about a four cylinder C63 was the first thing I thought about. This rumour looks less and less ridiculous by the day. But if I was a betting man I'd still put my money on the next C63 having a fruitier version of the E53's drivetrain.
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I would think that AMG doesn’t want to do this but rather are forced to. The car will probably be better in every way except for sound. This is what Ferrari had to go through with the 488 release. The car is better in every way than the 458 except for sound. I wouldn’t be surprised if this new powertrain finds its way in the upcoming GT black series with AWD.
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I talked to this AMG driving instructor/AMG tester (or something like that, I forget what his exact title was lol) in Abu Dhabi at the Yas Circuit a few weeks ago and he said there’s no way that’ll happen to the 63 when there’s still other cars out there with V8s, 10s, and 12s. And he said they have not been developing or testing any 4 cyl hybrids. They would’ve been doing that by now considering it comes out so soon.
All that being said he could be completely BSing. Idk hah. What do y’all think/know?
All that being said he could be completely BSing. Idk hah. What do y’all think/know?
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The rumor about the C63 getting a hybrid 4 cylinder seems to have been a case of broken telephone. The current V8 is based on the M133 4 cylinder. AMG is developing a new V8 based on the M139 4 cylinder. The C63 will be the first, or one of the first, cars to get this new engine and it's going to be equipped with the *53 hybrid system and an electric compressor. The AMG GT R Black series will also most likely be using the same new engine.
"New engine based on the M139 4 cylinder but with hybrid tech" seems to have been misinterpreted as 'it will be a 4 cylinder engine" as opposed to "it will be a V8 based on a 4 cylinder engine just like the current V8 is".
"New engine based on the M139 4 cylinder but with hybrid tech" seems to have been misinterpreted as 'it will be a 4 cylinder engine" as opposed to "it will be a V8 based on a 4 cylinder engine just like the current V8 is".
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The rumor about the C63 getting a hybrid 4 cylinder seems to have been a case of broken telephone. The current V8 is based on the M133 4 cylinder. AMG is developing a new V8 based on the M139 4 cylinder. The C63 will be the first, or one of the first, cars to get this new engine and it's going to be equipped with the *53 hybrid system and an electric compressor. The AMG GT R Black series will also most likely be using the same new engine.
"New engine based on the M139 4 cylinder but with hybrid tech" seems to have been misinterpreted as 'it will be a 4 cylinder engine" as opposed to "it will be a V8 based on a 4 cylinder engine just like the current V8 is".
"New engine based on the M139 4 cylinder but with hybrid tech" seems to have been misinterpreted as 'it will be a 4 cylinder engine" as opposed to "it will be a V8 based on a 4 cylinder engine just like the current V8 is".
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this is downright blasphemy and will alienate the core of amg customers in my opinion. bmw is looking like the enthusiast choice more and more. for some reason i hope this is all wrong and speculation .
