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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 10:30 AM
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Welcome to Canada (to help pay for our taxes ), our taxes is higher than most states for literally everything and the weak currency doesn't help.

Cars in Canada is generally cheaper than the USA before the chip shortage and stuff but in return we don't get lemon law, we don't get a cool off period when buying (at least true for Ontario), cars generally gets released many months longer than the States.

not car related (we get treated poorly when it comes to consumer electronics, many discounts that the States gets we don't get, we don't get lots of colour options for phones for example, we miss out on many models, our software updates come very late, customer support of many brands are generally poor, our general cost of living is higher, we have the most expensive phone plans in the world in general and with the least data (although sort of improving).

I mean, every country has their short comings, I still love Canada : ) and we always welcome people if you want to come : ) I just want to say although our cars were cheaper before, literally everything else is more expensive than the States, take housing for example.
Ah, Canada; where a $350k household income affords you a 2-bedroom condo and a used Hyundai accent... :|
The craziest thing for me is watching those home-hunter shows hundred-acre properties with massive houses down in Texas going for around $500K.

@eatmydust Tell you what - Let's trade spots. You have to take my wife and kid though.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 10:43 AM
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I just received a reply from my dealer - $80,900 CAD. Is the official MSRP of the MY23 C43. That's insane :|. It increased by a full Hyundai accent...LOL
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 10:59 AM
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I just received a reply from my dealer - $80,900 CAD. Is the official MSRP of the MY23 C43. That's insane :|. It increased by a full Hyundai accent...LOL
Ouch, oh well. I still might consider it but dang there are many other options out there at that price point. That said though, the MY23 or MY24 C 63 S E Performance also will be increasing a lot compared to the W205 C 63 S, so that is probably why.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by flocons
I just received a reply from my dealer - $80,900 CAD. Is the official MSRP of the MY23 C43. That's insane :|. It increased by a full Hyundai accent...LOL
That's base MSRP? Do you at least get standard options that we have to pay a la carte?

That does seem exorbitant
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by alexasa
That's base MSRP? Do you at least get standard options that we have to pay a la carte?

That does seem exorbitant
I haven't taken a look yet but the standard equipment is listed on Page 6 of this ordering guide: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...ml#post8699320
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by alexasa
That's base MSRP? Do you at least get standard options that we have to pay a la carte?

That does seem exorbitant
Yep - That's base MSRP! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!

Don't worry - I'm sure the lease/finance rates will be so low that everything will even out!!!!


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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by flocons
Yep - That's base MSRP! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!

Don't worry - I'm sure the lease/finance rates will be so low that everything will even out!!!!

Doesn't help because it exceeded 100K, so luxury tax time.

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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by flocons
Ah, Canada; where a $350k household income affords you a 2-bedroom condo and a used Hyundai accent... :|
The craziest thing for me is watching those home-hunter shows hundred-acre properties with massive houses down in Texas going for around $500K.

@eatmydust Tell you what - Let's trade spots. You have to take my wife and kid though.
I live in California so you don't want to trade me. Same issue. 300k a year is considered average income
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 06:55 PM
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I live in California so you don't want to trade me. Same issue. 300k a year is considered average income
You guys serious, average? Here in Boston it would've been just above the poverty rate.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Doesn't help because it exceeded 100K, so luxury tax time.
What's $3,000 Freight? HST is 13% in Ontario, wow.
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Looking good man. You can always get C43 / C63 in a few years.
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Originally Posted by Dima
What's $3,000 Freight? HST is 13% in Ontario, wow.
Freight and PDI, so basically delivery and destination. Ya and 13% does not include the luxury tax imposed on $100K+ cars.

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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 07:28 PM
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Luxury tax is calculated on the sale price, not the purchase price, so I think I scraped by that at 97k...Otherwise it's another 20k. LOL
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 07:33 PM
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You guys serious, average? Here in Boston it would've been just above the poverty rate.
Haha no we have Boston beat by a few

https://ktla.com/news/california/you...-these-cities/
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 07:36 PM
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$3k to deliver to Toronto, 3 time more than few miles over to Detroit. And all those taxes, what are you guys getting for it? free snow? We pay like 6.5% max here and everyone complains.
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Haha no we have Boston beat by a few

https://ktla.com/news/california/you...-these-cities/
Nah this is old stuff, while SF area was getting poorer, everyone had been moving up here from Asia / Europe so the real estate prices went up like 25% last year and the salaries as well. For $250k you can only buy a parking garage. Used to be NY, but since the crime had spiked, everyone is moving up here. Reminds them of Europe without high taxes and with high paying jobs in tech, biotech and medical.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by eatmydust
Haha no we have Boston beat by a few

https://ktla.com/news/california/you...-these-cities/
Those numbers are in Thai Baht, right?
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Wow! What an upgrade! Congrats!
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Looking good man. You can always get C43 / C63 in a few years.

Thank you guys.

And yes @Dima that is spot on. As the sub 100k gas powered AMG field narrows, I will most likely reapproach the C43/C63 in a few years.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dima
Nah this is old stuff, while SF area was getting poorer, everyone had been moving up here from Asia / Europe so the real estate prices went up like 25% last year and the salaries as well. For $250k you can only buy a parking garage. Used to be NY, but since the crime had spiked, everyone is moving up here. Reminds them of Europe without high taxes and with high paying jobs in tech, biotech and medical.
The study was from 2021. California bay area like silicon Valley far surpasses Boston in cost. And parts of greater Los Angeles.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee$
Thank you guys.

And yes @Dima that is spot on. As the sub 100k gas powered AMG field narrows, I will most likely reapproach the C43/C63 in a few years.
Unless you want a smaller car I understand it might be difficult to go back from an E 63 S to a C 43 or C 63 S.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 09:21 PM
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The study was from 2021. California bay area like silicon Valley far surpasses Boston in cost. And parts of greater Los Angeles.
SV is much bigger than Boston metro, it's actually hard to compare. Boston proper vs SF proper could be compared and they have been going in the opposite direction.
I think SF has been going downhill fast in the last few years together with NY and some other big cities.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Unless you want a smaller car I understand it might be difficult to go back from an E 63 S to a C 43 or C 63 S.
W206 has grown in comparison to W205, I assume the next E would be bigger than the current. The trend is for bigger, heavier and electric obviously, need more space for those big, heavy batteries.
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Unless you want a smaller car I understand it might be difficult to go back from an E 63 S to a C 43 or C 63 S.
Great point. After owning compact sedans for several years, I’m loving the full size E class. However, I will likely be forced to look at a new C43/used C63 in a few years in order to stay at my price point of ~75k.
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Old Jan 9, 2023 | 09:39 PM
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ME: "I just spent 100k on a car!!!"
FRIEND: "Oh sick! What did you get???"
ME: "Merc C43"
FRIEND: "....."
ME: ...AMG...
FRIEND: ".........."
ME: "And It's got four cylin-- Ah, f*ck.."
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Originally Posted by Dima
W206 has grown in comparison to W205, I assume the next E would be bigger than the current. The trend is for bigger, heavier and electric obviously, need more space for those big, heavy batteries.
Yup that is true, the CLA (C118?) for example is pretty much the same exterior length as the W205 but not the same headroom and legroom. Vehicles kept on growing larger and our garages, public parking spots, road widths aren't That said though, the rear axle steering will help with the U-turning for example.
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