AMS (German Magazine) C63 E Performance vs M3 Comp X-Drive
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AMS (German Magazine) C63 E Performance vs M3 Comp X-Drive
Head to Head comparison . Performance Data.
C63 and M3 weigh 2133 and 1779 kg respectively
First German comparison (M3 G80 xDrive vs W206 C63 AMG E Performance) (bimmerpost.com)
C63 and M3 weigh 2133 and 1779 kg respectively
First German comparison (M3 G80 xDrive vs W206 C63 AMG E Performance) (bimmerpost.com)
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BMW wins emissions... With a 3l i6 vs the 2l 4 pot of the amg ... Can someone explain me how amg managed to screw exactly that up? The main reason to ditch the v8 in the first place
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Not sure about Belgium, but in number of countries they tax displacement, so smaller engines cars are still cheaper to buy.
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No tax here is based on emissions.
in that regard a gt 63 4door e performance is cheaper then a normal gt 63 4door. But i cant imagine the fact that some countries have high tax for the v8 is the reason. In the Nederlands it is based on weight... Imagine the cost there for the new one...
in that regard a gt 63 4door e performance is cheaper then a normal gt 63 4door. But i cant imagine the fact that some countries have high tax for the v8 is the reason. In the Nederlands it is based on weight... Imagine the cost there for the new one...
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No tax here is based on emissions.
in that regard a gt 63 4door e performance is cheaper then a normal gt 63 4door. But i cant imagine the fact that some countries have high tax for the v8 is the reason. In the Nederlands it is based on weight... Imagine the cost there for the new one...
in that regard a gt 63 4door e performance is cheaper then a normal gt 63 4door. But i cant imagine the fact that some countries have high tax for the v8 is the reason. In the Nederlands it is based on weight... Imagine the cost there for the new one...
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Weight would had been the cause to that, otherwise you would think the electrification will help boost economy but it didn't. Hopefully facelift things improve in MB's favour.
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I drove the new c63 for 2 days straight. I got to the event in a G80 M3 and left it in the G80 M3 so I have a very good comparison. And I also had the w205 c63s before and currently have the G82 M4 and the AMG GT R.
The new C63 isn’t the car that I’d buy. It was super unreliable, AMG had to swap the car for me when the first one failed. On the second car the turbo was having issues but they didn’t have another car for me to drive so I got stuck with that one. It is fast though, when it works.
BMW has a much better product now. Shame on Mercedes.
The new C63 isn’t the car that I’d buy. It was super unreliable, AMG had to swap the car for me when the first one failed. On the second car the turbo was having issues but they didn’t have another car for me to drive so I got stuck with that one. It is fast though, when it works.
BMW has a much better product now. Shame on Mercedes.
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I drove the new c63 for 2 days straight. I got to the event in a G80 M3 and left it in the G80 M3 so I have a very good comparison. And I also had the w205 c63s before and currently have the G82 M4 and the AMG GT R.
The new C63 isn’t the car that I’d buy. It was super unreliable, AMG had to swap the car for me when the first one failed. On the second car the turbo was having issues but they didn’t have another car for me to drive so I got stuck with that one. It is fast though, when it works.
BMW has a much better product now. Shame on Mercedes.
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The new C63 isn’t the car that I’d buy. It was super unreliable, AMG had to swap the car for me when the first one failed. On the second car the turbo was having issues but they didn’t have another car for me to drive so I got stuck with that one. It is fast though, when it works.
BMW has a much better product now. Shame on Mercedes.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...838e77b3c.jpeg
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I drove the new c63 for 2 days straight. I got to the event in a G80 M3 and left it in the G80 M3 so I have a very good comparison. And I also had the w205 c63s before and currently have the G82 M4 and the AMG GT R.
The new C63 isn’t the car that I’d buy. It was super unreliable, AMG had to swap the car for me when the first one failed. On the second car the turbo was having issues but they didn’t have another car for me to drive so I got stuck with that one. It is fast though, when it works.
BMW has a much better product now. Shame on Mercedes.
The new C63 isn’t the car that I’d buy. It was super unreliable, AMG had to swap the car for me when the first one failed. On the second car the turbo was having issues but they didn’t have another car for me to drive so I got stuck with that one. It is fast though, when it works.
BMW has a much better product now. Shame on Mercedes.
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Which event was this? I've been looking at the AMG Experience events, but the fleet is unconvincing. The only car I'm interested in driving is the SL 63. Waiting for the new GT to be in their fleet. Just can't convince myself to pay for an event to drive the new C63 and your experience confirms it. Reminds me of all the issues they had with the AMG One. The electric turbo seems to be a common source of trouble now.
The new GT won’t arrive to their stable until the next year. They MIGHT have one or two for Sweden and only to showcase it, not to drive it.
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First column is the BMW. WLTP at the top, real world test and eco below. BMW is off by 30g at the high-end and C63 by more than double at 73g. Is this the next emissions scandal?
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Yes. Curious to hear any other driving impressions. How was the sound? Did the car drive okay in comfort mode vs sport? How was the suspension? Did you feel the weight of the vehicle?
Thanks so much.
Also hoping to finally test drive the M3 in the next few weeks.
Thanks so much.
Also hoping to finally test drive the M3 in the next few weeks.
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I drove the new c63 for 2 days straight. I got to the event in a G80 M3 and left it in the G80 M3 so I have a very good comparison. And I also had the w205 c63s before and currently have the G82 M4 and the AMG GT R.
The new C63 isn’t the car that I’d buy. It was super unreliable, AMG had to swap the car for me when the first one failed. On the second car the turbo was having issues but they didn’t have another car for me to drive so I got stuck with that one. It is fast though, when it works.
BMW has a much better product now. Shame on Mercedes.
The new C63 isn’t the car that I’d buy. It was super unreliable, AMG had to swap the car for me when the first one failed. On the second car the turbo was having issues but they didn’t have another car for me to drive so I got stuck with that one. It is fast though, when it works.
BMW has a much better product now. Shame on Mercedes.
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The sound wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. In some way I liked it more than the BMW M4/M3.
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When the battery had charge in it the car was very fast but once battery got depleted the loss of power was noticeable. And there definitely was a lag when the electric motor was about to kick in. Oh and transmission is garbage, I have never experienced a more jerky transmission in my life.
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When the battery had charge in it the car was very fast but once battery got depleted the loss of power was noticeable. And there definitely was a lag when the electric motor was about to kick in. Oh and transmission is garbage, I have never experienced a more jerky transmission in my life.
The car was comfortable to drive in both Comfort and Sport modes. Rear steering was hiding the weight very good but the car still reminded me every time about how heavy it is.
The sound wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. In some way I liked it more than the BMW M4/M3.
The car was comfortable to drive in both Comfort and Sport modes. Rear steering was hiding the weight very good but the car still reminded me every time about how heavy it is.
The sound wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. In some way I liked it more than the BMW M4/M3.
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I have had the car for 3 days and 75% of the time it performed well. My opinion is that Mercedes’s weak link is the software, not hardware. And on-site AMG techs shared the same opinion.
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Fair enough, it does seem that way. I would agree. Mercedes Me have issues a lot of times and so is the private lounge website. The AMG MCT like another forum member mentioned is a great transmission hindered by the software. The MBUSA configurator takes forever to be updated (but understandably that is a completely different team and probably a regional issue) The E Performance drivetrain is a feat of engineering also hindered by poor software control, the different systems and drivetrains have communication problems as a result, almost like a language barrier. Another thing MB does poorly is managing the weight of all these components.