Panorama Roof - Performance, Weight... worth it?
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Panorama Roof - Performance, Weight... worth it?
Greetings,
Sorry for another thread, but I did a search and this wasn't a topic so thought I'd start one.
There seems to be some questions among different people on the Panorama roof. I myself have a 2016 C63S on order WITH the Pano roof, but was wondering if I should change it, and maybe a discussion here could help make that decision (also, this thread gives other people who have a similar question a place to search).
Some categories to start (questions I'd like answered). Feel free to add so people can answer
1. Does anyone know the weight addition by adding the roof? I've heard both 80 pounds and 220, and everything in between. 80 isn't too bad... 220 is getting towards a lot to be adding so high up on the vehicle.
2. Any affects on performance (outside of weight)? Talking rigidity here or other non-weight related issues.
3. Any long term mechanical problems (heard possible rattling on early versions of the Pano roof after 3-4 years from 2005 car owners)?
4. Any issues with it allowing too much light in for really sunny climates? Making cabin too hot?
5. What's there to LIKE about the pano roof? Anyone NOT get it but regret not getting it?
Sorry for another thread, but I did a search and this wasn't a topic so thought I'd start one.
There seems to be some questions among different people on the Panorama roof. I myself have a 2016 C63S on order WITH the Pano roof, but was wondering if I should change it, and maybe a discussion here could help make that decision (also, this thread gives other people who have a similar question a place to search).
Some categories to start (questions I'd like answered). Feel free to add so people can answer
1. Does anyone know the weight addition by adding the roof? I've heard both 80 pounds and 220, and everything in between. 80 isn't too bad... 220 is getting towards a lot to be adding so high up on the vehicle.
2. Any affects on performance (outside of weight)? Talking rigidity here or other non-weight related issues.
3. Any long term mechanical problems (heard possible rattling on early versions of the Pano roof after 3-4 years from 2005 car owners)?
4. Any issues with it allowing too much light in for really sunny climates? Making cabin too hot?
5. What's there to LIKE about the pano roof? Anyone NOT get it but regret not getting it?
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Whether 80lbs or 220lbs, there is no denying it raises the center of gravity. I wouldn't be surprised if one with a regular sunroof is able to achieve a higher lateral g's than one with a pano. The open feeling must be nice, but I would rather have a car that is more planted.
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My order includes the pano. However, I think you should look at your overall purpose and use for the car. If you're looking to track the car, don't get the roof -- period -- as the weight will work against you. If you're using the car like me -- a street legal muscle car with tons of luxury and creature comfort, then get the pano. I love the open top and even have a sunroof on my M4. Like others have said, the weight on the street will not affect you at all. Its a different story on the track.
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Greetings,
Sorry for another thread, but I did a search and this wasn't a topic so thought I'd start one.
There seems to be some questions among different people on the Panorama roof. I myself have a 2016 C63S on order WITH the Pano roof, but was wondering if I should change it, and maybe a discussion here could help make that decision (also, this thread gives other people who have a similar question a place to search).
Some categories to start (questions I'd like answered). Feel free to add so people can answer
1. Does anyone know the weight addition by adding the roof? I've heard both 80 pounds and 220, and everything in between. 80 isn't too bad... 220 is getting towards a lot to be adding so high up on the vehicle.
2. Any affects on performance (outside of weight)? Talking rigidity here or other non-weight related issues.
3. Any long term mechanical problems (heard possible rattling on early versions of the Pano roof after 3-4 years from 2005 car owners)?
4. Any issues with it allowing too much light in for really sunny climates? Making cabin too hot?
5. What's there to LIKE about the pano roof? Anyone NOT get it but regret not getting it?
Sorry for another thread, but I did a search and this wasn't a topic so thought I'd start one.
There seems to be some questions among different people on the Panorama roof. I myself have a 2016 C63S on order WITH the Pano roof, but was wondering if I should change it, and maybe a discussion here could help make that decision (also, this thread gives other people who have a similar question a place to search).
Some categories to start (questions I'd like answered). Feel free to add so people can answer
1. Does anyone know the weight addition by adding the roof? I've heard both 80 pounds and 220, and everything in between. 80 isn't too bad... 220 is getting towards a lot to be adding so high up on the vehicle.
2. Any affects on performance (outside of weight)? Talking rigidity here or other non-weight related issues.
3. Any long term mechanical problems (heard possible rattling on early versions of the Pano roof after 3-4 years from 2005 car owners)?
4. Any issues with it allowing too much light in for really sunny climates? Making cabin too hot?
5. What's there to LIKE about the pano roof? Anyone NOT get it but regret not getting it?
2 - Top heavy - roll more thru corners at higher speed
3 - Search the forum but I've heard about a grinding noise when closing it. I've got a sunroof on my current C350 and I've had it looked at by my dealer several times for a grinding noise when closing it.
4 - You can cover it from the inside and or tint it.
5 - I like the look of it from the outside as well as the inside but I opted not to get it because. 1- everything negative I stated above 2 - $$$$$$ 3 - I plan on taking the car to the track 4 - Pretty much all cars I've owned either had a sunroof or t-tops and I just want something without.
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Part of the reason for the Pano is how it looks. On a lighter colored car; it's sharp. Also, you either get a pano or a steel roof. Some people still think that is comes standard with a smaller roof. It does not.
I love a sunroof so to me it was a no-brainer. I personally do not think around the track you will see the difference between a non-pano and pano car.
I love a sunroof so to me it was a no-brainer. I personally do not think around the track you will see the difference between a non-pano and pano car.
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Thanks for the replies. Honestly I am not a hardcore track guy. I do like to go down maybe a few times a year and have some fun, but that's about it. Not generally overly concerned with the roof as long as it allows me to still have some fun, so I will probably stick with it.
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Thanks for the replies. Honestly I am not a hardcore track guy. I do like to go down maybe a few times a year and have some fun, but that's about it. Not generally overly concerned with the roof as long as it allows me to still have some fun, so I will probably stick with it.
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Take a test ride in a pano car before you delete it.
It's a cost/benefit equation that will work out differently for different people. For me the benefits outweigh any aspirations of making a record lap at COTA ! LOL.
It's a cost/benefit equation that will work out differently for different people. For me the benefits outweigh any aspirations of making a record lap at COTA ! LOL.
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