C63s on toyo T1 sport 255 35 R19 and 295 30 R19
01-18-2018, 04:55 PM
#126
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The Sedan and the Coupe have slightly different fitments. On the Coupe you can get away with an 11.5" and 305 out back all day. On the Sedan it is a lot weaker. We've found the 10.5" to be the perfect setup with the 11" being for those who aren't of the faint of heart. 11.5" would be pushing the envelope dramatically.
01-19-2018, 11:26 AM
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Just to follow up with everyone after sharing fitment knowledge between us and HRE - the front on the Sedan and Coupe are the same. The rears however differ.
HRE has what's called an "F1" fitment where they can guarantee that the wheels will fit without any rubbing or need for modification. HRE's F2 fitment is one that you can call out your own widths & offsets to get a more aggressive / flush look.
HRE's F1 fitment for the Sedan is 10" wide rear. For the Coupe it is 10.5" wide. HRE also has our aggressive fitment in their system which is 10.5 for the Sedan and 11.5 for the Coupe. It is vital that the correct offsets are chosen for our fitment and of course we know where it needs to be at.
HRE has what's called an "F1" fitment where they can guarantee that the wheels will fit without any rubbing or need for modification. HRE's F2 fitment is one that you can call out your own widths & offsets to get a more aggressive / flush look.
HRE's F1 fitment for the Sedan is 10" wide rear. For the Coupe it is 10.5" wide. HRE also has our aggressive fitment in their system which is 10.5 for the Sedan and 11.5 for the Coupe. It is vital that the correct offsets are chosen for our fitment and of course we know where it needs to be at.
01-20-2018, 02:18 PM
#128
Just to follow up with everyone after sharing fitment knowledge between us and HRE - the front on the Sedan and Coupe are the same. The rears however differ.
HRE has what's called an "F1" fitment where they can guarantee that the wheels will fit without any rubbing or need for modification. HRE's F2 fitment is one that you can call out your own widths & offsets to get a more aggressive / flush look.
HRE's F1 fitment for the Sedan is 10" wide rear. For the Coupe it is 10.5" wide. HRE also has our aggressive fitment in their system which is 10.5 for the Sedan and 11.5 for the Coupe. It is vital that the correct offsets are chosen for our fitment and of course we know where it needs to be at.
HRE has what's called an "F1" fitment where they can guarantee that the wheels will fit without any rubbing or need for modification. HRE's F2 fitment is one that you can call out your own widths & offsets to get a more aggressive / flush look.
HRE's F1 fitment for the Sedan is 10" wide rear. For the Coupe it is 10.5" wide. HRE also has our aggressive fitment in their system which is 10.5 for the Sedan and 11.5 for the Coupe. It is vital that the correct offsets are chosen for our fitment and of course we know where it needs to be at.
01-23-2018, 02:25 PM
#130
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01-23-2018, 02:50 PM
#131
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03-13-2018, 06:24 PM
#132
Sorry guys, I know this thread is kinda old, but I'm considering putting on wider tires on my sedan since the winter is almost over.
I talked to tire dealers, and they can confirm Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 255/35/R19 Front and 285/35/R19 Rear fit my OEM wheel rims.
So I got few noob questions:
1. Can 285/35/R19 give me much better traction(like noticeable difference) than my current 265/35/R19 setup? Or I should even go wider?
2. If I go even wider, should I get 12" wide wheel rim size and put on 325/25/R20 tires for rear like Sanch did(Note that I have sedan)? 325 sounds like what AMG GTR is equipped with.
3. Does the wider wheel rims + wider tires worth it? Or should I just keep the OEM rim size and just go for wider tires(In this case, the widest I should get is just 285)?
I talked to tire dealers, and they can confirm Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 255/35/R19 Front and 285/35/R19 Rear fit my OEM wheel rims.
So I got few noob questions:
1. Can 285/35/R19 give me much better traction(like noticeable difference) than my current 265/35/R19 setup? Or I should even go wider?
2. If I go even wider, should I get 12" wide wheel rim size and put on 325/25/R20 tires for rear like Sanch did(Note that I have sedan)? 325 sounds like what AMG GTR is equipped with.
3. Does the wider wheel rims + wider tires worth it? Or should I just keep the OEM rim size and just go for wider tires(In this case, the widest I should get is just 285)?
03-13-2018, 06:46 PM
#133
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Sorry guys, I know this thread is kinda old, but I'm considering putting on wider tires on my sedan since the winter is almost over.
I talked to tire dealers, and they can confirm Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 255/35/R19 Front and 285/35/R19 Rear fit my OEM wheel rims.
So I got few noob questions:
1. Can 285/35/R19 give me much better traction(like noticeable difference) than my current 265/35/R19 setup? Or I should even go wider?
2. If I go even wider, should I get 12" wide wheel rim size and put on 325/25/R20 tires for rear like Sanch did(Note that I have sedan)? 325 sounds like what AMG GTR is equipped with.
3. Does the wider wheel rims + wider tires worth it? Or should I just keep the OEM rim size and just go for wider tires(In this case, the widest I should get is just 285)?
I talked to tire dealers, and they can confirm Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 255/35/R19 Front and 285/35/R19 Rear fit my OEM wheel rims.
So I got few noob questions:
1. Can 285/35/R19 give me much better traction(like noticeable difference) than my current 265/35/R19 setup? Or I should even go wider?
2. If I go even wider, should I get 12" wide wheel rim size and put on 325/25/R20 tires for rear like Sanch did(Note that I have sedan)? 325 sounds like what AMG GTR is equipped with.
3. Does the wider wheel rims + wider tires worth it? Or should I just keep the OEM rim size and just go for wider tires(In this case, the widest I should get is just 285)?
I'm running 305s PS4S until they make the size I want (325/25/20). With the 305s it is hard to break traction, 325s would purely be for the looks (wider stance and less tire wall).
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g2lujinn (03-13-2018)
03-13-2018, 06:54 PM
#134
I would personally go up to 255/285 on your OEM wheels - You will definitely notice a big improvement with traction with the wider PS4S tires.
I'm running 305s PS4S until they make the size I want (325/25/20). With the 305s it is hard to break traction, 325s would purely be for the looks (wider stance and less tire wall).
I'm running 305s PS4S until they make the size I want (325/25/20). With the 305s it is hard to break traction, 325s would purely be for the looks (wider stance and less tire wall).
03-13-2018, 06:59 PM
#135
Sorry guys, I know this thread is kinda old, but I'm considering putting on wider tires on my sedan since the winter is almost over.
I talked to tire dealers, and they can confirm Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 255/35/R19 Front and 285/35/R19 Rear fit my OEM wheel rims.
So I got few noob questions:
1. Can 285/35/R19 give me much better traction(like noticeable difference) than my current 265/35/R19 setup? Or I should even go wider?
2. If I go even wider, should I get 12" wide wheel rim size and put on 325/25/R20 tires for rear like Sanch did(Note that I have sedan)? 325 sounds like what AMG GTR is equipped with.
3. Does the wider wheel rims + wider tires worth it? Or should I just keep the OEM rim size and just go for wider tires(In this case, the widest I should get is just 285)?
I talked to tire dealers, and they can confirm Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 255/35/R19 Front and 285/35/R19 Rear fit my OEM wheel rims.
So I got few noob questions:
1. Can 285/35/R19 give me much better traction(like noticeable difference) than my current 265/35/R19 setup? Or I should even go wider?
2. If I go even wider, should I get 12" wide wheel rim size and put on 325/25/R20 tires for rear like Sanch did(Note that I have sedan)? 325 sounds like what AMG GTR is equipped with.
3. Does the wider wheel rims + wider tires worth it? Or should I just keep the OEM rim size and just go for wider tires(In this case, the widest I should get is just 285)?
I am currently running Michelin PilotSDport 4s and am lowered 20mm front and rear.
This is setup works and is about the maximum you can run on factory cross spoke wheels.
If if money is permits get some new wheels with rears increased to 10.5" to be safe, 11's no one has really confirmed acceptable fit on lowered car.
The Pilot Sport 4S will give a noticeable increase in traction as will going to 295's.
I have been running this this setup for a long time and have a full customer sub install (250kgs) and have kids in the back with no issues.
I do recommend installing front and rear K-Mac Camber kits to get the correct alignment otherwise your going to be up for new tyres again within the year.
12" & 325's will not work on your sedan.
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g2lujinn (03-13-2018)
03-13-2018, 07:04 PM
#136
I replaced my factory sized tyres on my sedan with 263/35/19 up front and 295/30/19 on the rear.
I am currently running Michelin PilotSDport 4s and am lowered 20mm front and rear.
This is setup works and is about the maximum you can run on factory cross spoke wheels.
If if money is permits get some new wheels with rears increased to 10.5" to be safe, 11's no one has really confirmed acceptable fit on lowered car.
The Pilot Sport 4S will give a noticeable increase in traction as will going to 295's.
I have been running this this setup for a long time and have a full customer sub install (250kgs) and have kids in the back with no issues.
I do recommend installing front and rear K-Mac Camber kits to get the correct alignment otherwise your going to be up for new tyres again within the year.
12" & 325's will not work on your sedan.
03-13-2018, 07:13 PM
#137
$1000 now is better than $2000+ every year in tyres.
Our cars do not have any adjustment so tyres will prematurely ware at factory and lowered heights.
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g2lujinn (03-13-2018)
03-14-2018, 06:02 PM
#138
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I suspect no one will recommend anything other than a manufacturer's original recommendation due to possible liability (read lawyer) issues.
03-14-2018, 06:37 PM
#139
Super Member
The widest I'm going to go on the stock rear sedan wheels is 285/35-19 because Michelin's website says the most narrow wheel possible for that tire is 9.5" and the stock rear Sedan wheel is 9.5".
Personally, I'd trust Michelin's recommendations more than anyone else's.
