Official MB power figures
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Official MB power figures
MB official figures for hp are 503hp @ 5500rpm-6250rpm and 700Nm @1750rpm-4500rpm does anyone know what Dynamic setting what gear and if manual or auto gear box setting should you be able to get these figures.
As I would like to check to see if after the up date my car makes the quoted figures or not.
As I would like to check to see if after the up date my car makes the quoted figures or not.
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Dyno runs should be made in 5th gear as that is the 1:1 Auto/Manual doesn't matter but it would be recommended to do this in Auto and you will have to set the cat into Roller Mode or else it'll shut down early.
I Dyno'ed mine at it made 480 RWHP stock - which puts it closer to 550 Crank. (Depending on what math you use for the transmission loss).
I Dyno'ed mine at it made 480 RWHP stock - which puts it closer to 550 Crank. (Depending on what math you use for the transmission loss).
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Dyno runs should be made in 4th gear as that is the closest to 1:1 Auto/Manual doesn't matter but it would be recommended to do this in Auto and you will have to set the cat into Roller Mode or else it'll shut down early.
I Dyno'ed mine at it made 480 RWHP stock - which puts it closer to 550 Crank. (Depending on what math you use for the transmission loss).
I Dyno'ed mine at it made 480 RWHP stock - which puts it closer to 550 Crank. (Depending on what math you use for the transmission loss).
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According to this http://www.automobile-catalog.com/auta_details1.php closest 1:1 is actually 5th gear. But it would seem 4th should make more power?
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Dyno runs should be made in 5th gear as that is the 1:1 Auto/Manual doesn't matter but it would be recommended to do this in Auto and you will have to set the cat into Roller Mode or else it'll shut down early.
I Dyno'ed mine at it made 480 RWHP stock - which puts it closer to 550 Crank. (Depending on what math you use for the transmission loss).
I Dyno'ed mine at it made 480 RWHP stock - which puts it closer to 550 Crank. (Depending on what math you use for the transmission loss).
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Dyno runs should be made in 5th gear as that is the 1:1 Auto/Manual doesn't matter but it would be recommended to do this in Auto and you will have to set the cat into Roller Mode or else it'll shut down early.
I Dyno'ed mine at it made 480 RWHP stock - which puts it closer to 550 Crank. (Depending on what math you use for the transmission loss).
I Dyno'ed mine at it made 480 RWHP stock - which puts it closer to 550 Crank. (Depending on what math you use for the transmission loss).
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I didn't test the driver modes but I can say that the power numbers wouldn't be different as that will not change mode to mode but it does control how the car holds gears, I told the tech to set it into RACE and make sure it was in Manual but I'm fairly sure he was going to do that anyway.
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The screen is a party favor - it means nothing, it's basically a boost gauge more than it is a "power meter". I wouldn't use to to quote power numbers but given what you've described I'd say there is something strange going on, if you're taking the car to full revs then I would suspect there is a boost issue as that's my personal theory on the gauge is that it is essentially just a gimmicky boost gauge.
I didn't test the driver modes but I can say that the power numbers wouldn't be different as that will not change mode to mode but it does control how the car holds gears, I told the tech to set it into RACE and make sure it was in Manual but I'm fairly sure he was going to do that anyway.
I didn't test the driver modes but I can say that the power numbers wouldn't be different as that will not change mode to mode but it does control how the car holds gears, I told the tech to set it into RACE and make sure it was in Manual but I'm fairly sure he was going to do that anyway.
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The info screen uses the 'Calculated torque' value that the engine computer uses for all it's running calculations. Basically it looks at the airflow through the engine and all the combustion data, timing, boost, rpms, etc. Then it references a Volumetric Efficiency table to determine how much torque the engine should be making at that moment.
The car uses this info for transmission calculations along with other things, and it's reasonably accurate on a stock vehicle. The engine should be capable of producing the max allowed torque in proper conditions, if there's nothing stopping it like excessive temperatures or poor fuel quality. The car will adjust boost levels and timing targets to reach the torque level it's allowed to, so it should get to the max on that display screen assuming everything working as it should.
The car uses this info for transmission calculations along with other things, and it's reasonably accurate on a stock vehicle. The engine should be capable of producing the max allowed torque in proper conditions, if there's nothing stopping it like excessive temperatures or poor fuel quality. The car will adjust boost levels and timing targets to reach the torque level it's allowed to, so it should get to the max on that display screen assuming everything working as it should.
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It's a culmination of different data points but it doesn't MEASURE power - thus it's a best guess, it's about as accurate as the old "Butt Dyno", this is why I consider it a gimmick. Can it be used to give rise to suspicion of a problem? Yes, but it's a guideline to show overall how the engine is performing and not specifically how well it's performing and should be mostly used to WoW your friends that don't know this or in your case as a talking point to the dealer as if you are not seeing more than "400 HP" on that display, there is a likely hood you have an issue that's causing the car to pull timing or perhaps you have a boost leak.
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The info screen uses the 'Calculated torque' value that the engine computer uses for all it's running calculations. Basically it looks at the airflow through the engine and all the combustion data, timing, boost, rpms, etc. Then it references a Volumetric Efficiency table to determine how much torque the engine should be making at that moment.
The car uses this info for transmission calculations along with other things, and it's reasonably accurate on a stock vehicle. The engine should be capable of producing the max allowed torque in proper conditions, if there's nothing stopping it like excessive temperatures or poor fuel quality. The car will adjust boost levels and timing targets to reach the torque level it's allowed to, so it should get to the max on that display screen assuming everything working as it should.
The car uses this info for transmission calculations along with other things, and it's reasonably accurate on a stock vehicle. The engine should be capable of producing the max allowed torque in proper conditions, if there's nothing stopping it like excessive temperatures or poor fuel quality. The car will adjust boost levels and timing targets to reach the torque level it's allowed to, so it should get to the max on that display screen assuming everything working as it should.
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It should hit the indicated max power. Many people have had adaptations reset and gotten the power back, I haven't had to mess with one yet personally to say why that happens.
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Does the adaptations reset need to be done by MB garage or is it something that you can do your self, is it the gear box rest you are talking about in some threads.
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I have only seen people say here they had everything reset by the dealer. I assume it's adaptations because that's all you can "reset" with even a dealer scan tool. There's no way to reset everything yourself without a full function, OEM level scan tool.
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Does the adaptations reset need to be done by MB garage or is it something that you can do your self, is it the gear box rest you are talking about in some threads.
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Does your engine data screen show full 510hp and 700Nm reading when you floor it?
Had you had the software update done when you had the dyno run?
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Thanks Vaelin what mode was the run done in Sports + or race, Auto or manual traction control on or off and is there any thing else I to make sure is done for the run.
Does your engine data screen show full 510hp and 700Nm reading when you floor it?
Had you had the software update done when you had the dyno run?
Does your engine data screen show full 510hp and 700Nm reading when you floor it?
Had you had the software update done when you had the dyno run?
I have a 2015, I don't have the fancy fake engine data screen. I'm also in California, so we get 91 octane and thus reduced power output; 503 instead of 510.
No, my car has not had the update, which I've seen everyone complaining about.
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The 503 or 510 is the difference in the US and European measurements for HP--It would help to have 93 octane but no luck here in CA.
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Either way, 463hp at the wheels stock would mean a drivetrain loss of only 8% if we believed MB.
The usual 15% calculation yields around 544 crank hp.
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it's actually what you posted at the crank
544 - 555hp
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