New guy here; just bought a C63
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New guy here; just bought a C63
Hello everybody.
Bought a 2017 C63 with 18000 miles about 3-4 weeks ago.
Took it to the dyno to establish a baseline. The factory rating of 469 is close to what I got. I assume they rate the power at the wheels.
One odd thing I experienced during the dyno runs was this:
As it approached 4000 rpm, it dropped back down to around 3500 rpm before picking up again. Yes, I had the traction control disabled. And I did the runs in 5th gear in sport+ mode.
However, unlike the factory rating, which says peak hp occurs at 6250 rpm, it occurred around 5800 rpm.
On the street, it seems to run fine. I don't experience that lag in power at 3500-4000 rpm.
Another thing I was disappointed to discover was no Apple Carplay or Andriod Auto.
I searched the internet and found some old discussions back to 2015. So I didn't find anything recent.
I went to the dealer to see if they could enable it. They said "no".
Is there anything I can do to get Android Auto/Carplay to work?
I also searched to see if I could disable the seatbelt chime. I found that it is possible with something called a STAR diagnostic tool. But, apparently not possible with Carly for Mercedes (unlike Carly for BMW, where it is possible). I checked to see where I could buy this STAR diagnostic tool. But they all look like they only READ information and don't allow you to make configuration changes. Correct me if I am wrong.
I also don't like that you have to buy a software for $650 to get the navigation system to work.
I'm hoping I can take it to the strip to get a baseline soon. Then I'll add a tune and catless pipes. But I doubt I'll do anything beyond that.
Bought a 2017 C63 with 18000 miles about 3-4 weeks ago.
Took it to the dyno to establish a baseline. The factory rating of 469 is close to what I got. I assume they rate the power at the wheels.
One odd thing I experienced during the dyno runs was this:
As it approached 4000 rpm, it dropped back down to around 3500 rpm before picking up again. Yes, I had the traction control disabled. And I did the runs in 5th gear in sport+ mode.
However, unlike the factory rating, which says peak hp occurs at 6250 rpm, it occurred around 5800 rpm.
On the street, it seems to run fine. I don't experience that lag in power at 3500-4000 rpm.
Another thing I was disappointed to discover was no Apple Carplay or Andriod Auto.
I searched the internet and found some old discussions back to 2015. So I didn't find anything recent.
I went to the dealer to see if they could enable it. They said "no".
Is there anything I can do to get Android Auto/Carplay to work?
I also searched to see if I could disable the seatbelt chime. I found that it is possible with something called a STAR diagnostic tool. But, apparently not possible with Carly for Mercedes (unlike Carly for BMW, where it is possible). I checked to see where I could buy this STAR diagnostic tool. But they all look like they only READ information and don't allow you to make configuration changes. Correct me if I am wrong.
I also don't like that you have to buy a software for $650 to get the navigation system to work.
I'm hoping I can take it to the strip to get a baseline soon. Then I'll add a tune and catless pipes. But I doubt I'll do anything beyond that.
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Another thing I was disappointed to discover was no Apple Carplay or Andriod Auto.
I searched the internet and found some old discussions back to 2015. So I didn't find anything recent.
I went to the dealer to see if they could enable it. They said "no".
Is there anything I can do to get Android Auto/Carplay to work?
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look here........ or at least start here.... then adding it ? keep looking... i stopped looking when i found my car was too old by like a month ;(
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Congrats to the car and welcome to the fold. Car Play/Android Auto was a separate option on the pre-facelift C63/S, but it couldn't be combined with the Multimedia Package, Driver Assistance, Parking Assistance etc.. One had to either opt for Car Play/Android Auto or the Multimedia Package etc. when ordering the car, but both together wasn't possible. There are aftermarket solutions as far as I know. Starting with MY2019, Car Play/Android Auto is now standard and no longer prevents the addition of the Multimedia Package etc.
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For the 2019 (and above) C-Class, the SD card part number is different since it's a slightly different variant of Nav.
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I recently found another source for specs, and it said: 469 @ 5,500–6,250 (C63 S: 503 @ 5,500–6,200). So I guess it's OK.
Does your car have SD card navigation? If so, you should be able to buy a Garmin SD card Nav for roughly $60 or less on Ebay if you search around. Make sure to buy it from a seller with good reputation. You can also send them your VIN just to confirm before the purchase.
For the 2019 (and above) C-Class, the SD card part number is different since it's a slightly different variant of Nav.
For the 2019 (and above) C-Class, the SD card part number is different since it's a slightly different variant of Nav.
So I assume yes.
Did a quick internet search and found this:
That's all I need, I assume.
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It says "No memory card containing navigation software inserted."
So I assume yes.
Did a quick internet search and found this:
https://www.amazon.com/Mercedes-Benz.../dp/B075RQPB2Q
That's all I need, I assume.
So I assume yes.
Did a quick internet search and found this:
https://www.amazon.com/Mercedes-Benz.../dp/B075RQPB2Q
That's all I need, I assume.
Just make sure that your VIN has the Audio 20 prewiring (Codes 522 + 355 in your case I think in the VIN decode), that are required for the Nav. Still good to check with the seller by sharing your VIN number before the purchase. There have been few sellers who sell fakes which fail at the time of activation. A given Nav SD card gets paired with the head unit at the time of activation, and cannot be used on another car after that. Each SD card has a unique CID (Card ID) as well which is part of this signature and pairing/activation.
Some good info about various Nav/Multimedia options and their codes listed here.
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The dealer says it's time to flush the transmission and add new fluid. The car has maybe 40k miles on it. It this something really necessary for these cars?
They also said something similar regarding the spark plugs.
Are these items necessary? They are pretty costly.
Also, whenever I change the brake pads, I have to buy rotors. No other car I had required this. Is there a pad/rotor replacement I can do so I don't need to change the rotors every time I change the pads?
Thanks.
They also said something similar regarding the spark plugs.
Are these items necessary? They are pretty costly.
Also, whenever I change the brake pads, I have to buy rotors. No other car I had required this. Is there a pad/rotor replacement I can do so I don't need to change the rotors every time I change the pads?
Thanks.
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The dealer says it's time to flush the transmission and add new fluid. The car has maybe 40k miles on it. It this something really necessary for these cars?
They also said something similar regarding the spark plugs.
Are these items necessary? They are pretty costly.
Also, whenever I change the brake pads, I have to buy rotors. No other car I had required this. Is there a pad/rotor replacement I can do so I don't need to change the rotors every time I change the pads?
Thanks.
They also said something similar regarding the spark plugs.
Are these items necessary? They are pretty costly.
Also, whenever I change the brake pads, I have to buy rotors. No other car I had required this. Is there a pad/rotor replacement I can do so I don't need to change the rotors every time I change the pads?
Thanks.
- transmission at 30k, spark plugs at 50k according to MB service guide. I got quoted $1200 and $1000 each just earlier this week. - are they needed...well, I suppose you can drive until it breaks but I would follow MB guidance as minimum requirement, our engines and transmissions are expensive....
- brake pads - no, you can change just the pads if the rotors have minimal thickness left (some people here insist on replacing both, which is always good but not necessary of rotors are still within tolerances).
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For your PFL 2017
- transmission at 30k, spark plugs at 50k according to MB service guide. I got quoted $1200 and $1000 each just earlier this week. - are they needed...well, I suppose you can drive until it breaks but I would follow MB guidance as minimum requirement, our engines and transmissions are expensive....
- brake pads - no, you can change just the pads if the rotors have minimal thickness left (some people here insist on replacing both, which is always good but not necessary of rotors are still within tolerances).
- transmission at 30k, spark plugs at 50k according to MB service guide. I got quoted $1200 and $1000 each just earlier this week. - are they needed...well, I suppose you can drive until it breaks but I would follow MB guidance as minimum requirement, our engines and transmissions are expensive....
- brake pads - no, you can change just the pads if the rotors have minimal thickness left (some people here insist on replacing both, which is always good but not necessary of rotors are still within tolerances).
So I asked if there were any pad/rotor manufacturers who offered a project that will fit the car and not require the rotors to be replaced. They didn't know.
Which pad/rotors are you using that do not require replacing the rotors every time you replace the pads?
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The service adviser told me that the type of rotors/pads are made of different material on cars such as AMGs, BMW Ms. etc. And that they must be replaced together.
So I asked if there were any pad/rotor manufacturers who offered a project that will fit the car and not require the rotors to be replaced. They didn't know.
Which pad/rotors are you using that do not require replacing the rotors every time you replace the pads?
So I asked if there were any pad/rotor manufacturers who offered a project that will fit the car and not require the rotors to be replaced. They didn't know.
Which pad/rotors are you using that do not require replacing the rotors every time you replace the pads?
There are aftermarket rotors for these cars and they've been discussed in an couple of recent treads. For example FCP Euro offers a Brembo full-floating front rotor, which is what I have on mine at the moment. They are technically OE rotors as they are found on cars such as the C63 Black Series and the GT R with standard brakes and some other AMG models, and they perform better than the semi-floating rotors that come stock. I'm on my second set of pads in the rear still on the original rotors. The rear brakes don't do a lot of work, so they are usually good for two sets of pads, but as always you need to keep an eye on the thickness of the rotors and if they reach the minimum thickness then you need to replace them.
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The service adviser told me that the type of rotors/pads are made of different material on cars such as AMGs, BMW Ms. etc. And that they must be replaced together.
So I asked if there were any pad/rotor manufacturers who offered a project that will fit the car and not require the rotors to be replaced. They didn't know.
Which pad/rotors are you using that do not require replacing the rotors every time you replace the pads?
So I asked if there were any pad/rotor manufacturers who offered a project that will fit the car and not require the rotors to be replaced. They didn't know.
Which pad/rotors are you using that do not require replacing the rotors every time you replace the pads?
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For CarPlay, 2017 models don't even have options for CarPlay if I remembered right, and 2018 could choose between multimedia and CarPlay. Then it's kind of standard starting from 2019 with the new infotainment system.
So to enable CarPlay, you will need to install a tiny module onto your infotainment module under the central panel. The hardware costs between $300 - $600 usually, and the installation is fairly quick once you got the covered pieces off from central panel.
So to enable CarPlay, you will need to install a tiny module onto your infotainment module under the central panel. The hardware costs between $300 - $600 usually, and the installation is fairly quick once you got the covered pieces off from central panel.
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For CarPlay, 2017 models don't even have options for CarPlay if I remembered right, and 2018 could choose between multimedia and CarPlay. Then it's kind of standard starting from 2019 with the new infotainment system.
So to enable CarPlay, you will need to install a tiny module onto your infotainment module under the central panel. The hardware costs between $300 - $600 usually, and the installation is fairly quick once you got the covered pieces off from central panel.
So to enable CarPlay, you will need to install a tiny module onto your infotainment module under the central panel. The hardware costs between $300 - $600 usually, and the installation is fairly quick once you got the covered pieces off from central panel.
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For CarPlay, 2017 models don't even have options for CarPlay if I remembered right, and 2018 could choose between multimedia and CarPlay. Then it's kind of standard starting from 2019 with the new infotainment system.
So to enable CarPlay, you will need to install a tiny module onto your infotainment module under the central panel. The hardware costs between $300 - $600 usually, and the installation is fairly quick once you got the covered pieces off from central panel.
So to enable CarPlay, you will need to install a tiny module onto your infotainment module under the central panel. The hardware costs between $300 - $600 usually, and the installation is fairly quick once you got the covered pieces off from central panel.
I've drained transmissions before and refilled them. I'm not going to be surprised if there's more to it than that for this car.
