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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 04:49 PM
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Upgraded Cooling System

Any recommendations on an upgraded cooling system?
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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 07:46 PM
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Wagner Tuning makes a kit. CSF has the central heat exchanger, ARE Cooling in Australia also.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 04:40 PM
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I have the Wagner Tuning kit on my car and love it. Perfect fitment as well.
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Old Jan 6, 2020 | 10:42 AM
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At what point or under what conditions does upgraded cooling become important?
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Old Jan 6, 2020 | 01:23 PM
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At what point or under what conditions does upgraded cooling become important?
stage1,2 or above
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 03:59 AM
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stage1,2 or above
stage 2 I would say (that's when you did downpipes and before you'd do ECU stage 2 tune).

from where I am from - stage 1 is just an ECU tune, without adding any new hardware
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by juse
stage1,2 or above
Not really without knowing the AIT. I don’t know the threshold on our car but in general, 230F and above should consider upgrade intercooler.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 06:26 PM
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I have the Wagner Tuning kit on my car and love it. Perfect fitment as well.
@parkerpayne I just got Capristo DPs, and Weistec stg2 flash, and was looking into upg cooling systems, especially because I live on the sun aka Phoenix, AZ.
What kind of results did the Wagner system give you ? How much has it dropped your operating Temps normally or under load or repeated pulls?

I was thinking of the CSF, but came across the Wagner which has main and the one side radiator/exchanger as well. However it is more than double the cost 700 vs 1900, so just wondering if the extra one is giving that much better results.
I have seen CSFs IAT chart with the 5 pulls vs stock, but nothing like that for the wagner.
I can get yellow Temps on trans and even engine after 3-5 good back to back pulls here, though i try not to run her too much in this summer heat and rarely even during the day. So I know I'd benefit from either of these.
Im also wanting to upgrade my wheel/tire setup and that gets really pricey so debating what to do first. So just looking for info in helping me justify the more expensive system or not.
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Old Jul 26, 2020 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PhxC63s
@parkerpayne I just got Capristo DPs, and Weistec stg2 flash, and was looking into upg cooling systems, especially because I live on the sun aka Phoenix, AZ.
What kind of results did the Wagner system give you ? How much has it dropped your operating Temps normally or under load or repeated pulls?

I was thinking of the CSF, but came across the Wagner which has main and the one side radiator/exchanger as well. However it is more than double the cost 700 vs 1900, so just wondering if the extra one is giving that much better results.
I have seen CSFs IAT chart with the 5 pulls vs stock, but nothing like that for the wagner.
I can get yellow Temps on trans and even engine after 3-5 good back to back pulls here, though i try not to run her too much in this summer heat and rarely even during the day. So I know I'd benefit from either of these.
Im also wanting to upgrade my wheel/tire setup and that gets really pricey so debating what to do first. So just looking for info in helping me justify the more expensive system or not.
@PhxC63s what are your thoughts on the Capristo DP? Did you go cat delete or the 200 cell? haven't seen many people with them but love the brand. Appreciate the insight.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 08:00 AM
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Im liking them so far. Catless. You can definitely hear more unregulated engine/exhaust noise now, but overall sounds good. Im loving being able to hear the pops and bangs much more now, as i have a facelift and they were muted before, and it seems to do it a bit more now. Im not sure if will happen with these or not, but on previous cars I've had with DPs, test pipes, etc, the sound got even better after a while of breaking in. I honestly have no idea how it sounds outside the car or drive by yet, as no one has driven it but me.

Start with some light revs.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by parkerpayne
I have the Wagner Tuning kit on my car and love it. Perfect fitment as well.

Did you have someone do the work and if so how much time did it take and what did they charge.
For track use on hot days this seems like a must have.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PhxC63s
Im liking them so far. Catless. You can definitely hear more unregulated engine/exhaust noise now, but overall sounds good. Im loving being able to hear the pops and bangs much more now, as i have a facelift and they were muted before, and it seems to do it a bit more now. Im not sure if will happen with these or not, but on previous cars I've had with DPs, test pipes, etc, the sound got even better after a while of breaking in. I honestly have no idea how it sounds outside the car or drive by yet, as no one has driven it but me.

Start with some light revs.
Thanks for sharing the video. Sounds great! Definitely going to consider their DP when I am ready to upgrade. Always nice to get first hand feedback.
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Old Jan 12, 2021 | 08:24 PM
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There seems to be some heat exchanger talk lately so I wanted to chime in here as well. Aftermarket coolers help, if designed correctly. I haven't seen any data on Wagner's kit, or the knockoffs coming out of China so it's hard to say how effective they are.

We purchased a few of the china knock offs and tried to do a test fit... they will require some trimming of the OEM plastic to get them to fit. We haven't logged anything but are offering these up CHEAP as we will likely not carry them long term.

DM us if you're interested.
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