How does FL c63 Owners feel about PFL C63 with panamericana grill?
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How does FL c63 Owners feel about PFL C63 with panamericana grill?
Since there’s been a lot of discussion about C63 owners saying C43 might not be considered a real AMG for whatever reason. While not the same but I wanted to know if Facelift C63 owners were cool with Prefacelift C63s getting the Panamericana grill. Do you think PFL are posers? Or perhaps PFL C63 should not try to look like an updated model? Or you don’t even care since it’s still a C63?
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Since there’s been a lot of discussion about C63 owners saying C43 might not be considered a real AMG for whatever reason. While not the same but I wanted to know if Facelift C63 owners were cool with Prefacelift C63s getting the Panamericana grill. Do you think PFL are posers? Or perhaps PFL C63 should not try to look like an updated model? Or you don’t even care since it’s still a C63?
It's great that PFL cars have the expensive option to update their exterior to match the updated model's looks.
Not bashing the newer models as I would drive one any day but something interesting to mention as well is facelift cars make lesser power on the dyno and they also use fake "piped" in exhaust sounds
@Jimmy_c63s has got dyno graphs saved from somewhere...... my point being is that PFL cars are in no way less of an AMG in regards to performance.
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Shouldn't matter to them at all. They're still the same car really, same power bar a few updates with transmission etc.
It's great that PFL cars have the expensive option to update their exterior to match the updated model's looks.
Not bashing the newer models as I would drive one any day but something interesting to mention as well is facelift cars make lesser power on the dyno and they also use fake "piped" in exhaust sounds
@Jimmy_c63s has got dyno graphs saved from somewhere...... my point being is that PFL cars are in no way less of an AMG in regards to performance.
Regards
George Lisciandro
It's great that PFL cars have the expensive option to update their exterior to match the updated model's looks.
Not bashing the newer models as I would drive one any day but something interesting to mention as well is facelift cars make lesser power on the dyno and they also use fake "piped" in exhaust sounds
@Jimmy_c63s has got dyno graphs saved from somewhere...... my point being is that PFL cars are in no way less of an AMG in regards to performance.
Regards
George Lisciandro
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Shouldn't matter to them at all. They're still the same car really, same power bar a few updates with transmission etc.
It's great that PFL cars have the expensive option to update their exterior to match the updated model's looks.
Not bashing the newer models as I would drive one any day but something interesting to mention as well is facelift cars make lesser power on the dyno and they also use fake "piped" in exhaust sounds
@Jimmy_c63s has got dyno graphs saved from somewhere...... my point being is that PFL cars are in no way less of an AMG in regards to performance.
Regards
George Lisciandro
It's great that PFL cars have the expensive option to update their exterior to match the updated model's looks.
Not bashing the newer models as I would drive one any day but something interesting to mention as well is facelift cars make lesser power on the dyno and they also use fake "piped" in exhaust sounds
@Jimmy_c63s has got dyno graphs saved from somewhere...... my point being is that PFL cars are in no way less of an AMG in regards to performance.
Regards
George Lisciandro
Bottom line is that it’s useless unless you’re using it for baseline before you make changes to your engine.
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Regarding your original question, do as you please. It’s cool as long as you don’t use fake badges.
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Did you read the link? AMG confirmed it themselves here. The FL C63 has fake piped in sound. Part no. A2059005330.
And yes 9 transmission maybe not slower but faultier
And just to be clear I got the facelift and went back to pre in 3 months but including aero package for sure, the best part of the facelift 😬
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Did you read the link? AMG confirmed it themselves here. The FL C63 has fake piped in sound. Part no. A2059005330.
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We can go on and on. I am glad you made a move that made you happier.
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The 9 speed has lots of issues, there have been tons of W213 E63s with blown trans and trans replacements under warranty on the early cars. I am in the market for a W213 E63 and that's a big issue for me, might have to go F90 M5.
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I’ve previously owned an F90 M5. Great car but make sure to go with competition package. I bought mine when it first launched and comp package wasn’t available.
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Still a cracker of a car and I would love to own one.
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To the OP, here is my version of "facelift" ;-)
