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Anyone Running a Pop n Burble Tune? (I have one in my back pocket)
I have a EC Stage 1, Stage2, and a Stage 2 with Pops n Burbles. Just curious if any of you have tried, or run a Pop n burble Tune? I got it just for fun and put it on 6 months ago for an hour and took it back off.
Today I added it and went for a 20 minute Drive. It is TOO Over the Top! It was fun and got a lot of looks, maybe too many! The POPS are VERY LOUD when they hit right, and the Burbles go a Long Time, like a succession of up to a dozen burbles at times. I was going to keep it just for the weekend, but when I got home, I took it off and put my regular Stage 2 Tune back, so it may be fun for going out for a few times and Load it just to be Obnoxious, but if I had it on FULL Time, I would go Crazy, as it is just way too much!
My Stage 2 Tune has LOTS of POPS and also Burbles frequently, but not as pronounced as the Pops. I wish mine had a little more Burbles to go along with my Explosions (POPS) because sometimes they are like a GUN, a Single Exploding BANG!!!!!!!!!!! The Pop & Burble Tune had BOTH and the Burbles were Plentiful and as I mentioned were very LONG in terms of how many would string together.
Again, just curious if anyone is running a Pop n Burble Tune, or how you like the Pops and Burbles you get on a stock tune as well as a Modified Tune.
I definitely get MORE and Much Louder Pops with my Tune than when it is stock.
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Originally Posted by TexasBenzBandit
I have a EC Stage 1, Stage2, and a Stage 2 with Pops n Burbles. Just curious if any of you have tried, or run a Pop n burble Tune? I got it just for fun and put it on 6 months ago for an hour and took it back off.
Today I added it and went for a 20 minute Drive. It is TOO Over the Top!
Too over the top!? 😏
Come on man where's a video? Show us the boom booms 🚗💨
I personally don't care for all that as my stage 2 tune with the valves open has a few nice gurgles when letting off the gas.
At one point I thought maybe I needed more and one day was playing around with a tuned C43 who had massive pops and bangs and after a few minutes of that I let him go because it got annoying.
I have one from EC as well. Car has catless downpipes and awe track so its basically a straight pipe. It is over the top but its fun sometimes, if I don't want to hear it ill just leave it in sport or comfort and it won't burble at all.
Ive seen enough videos of burble&pop tunes to surmise they are usually over the top and obnoxious. Doesnt sound good. Seems like it'd be a good laugh for 30 min or so. But would not want it for a DD.
I see people saying “pop n burble” tunes , per say there is no such thing, its just mapping more fuel and such. (Which clearly is not the best thing for your car or engine / turbos )
when i got my tune, i spent alot of time talking to a couple tuners (stateside and across pond)
all said same thing, there is no TUNE specific to turn on burbles it, its a matter if changing params etc.
in the case of my car, when i changed my exhaust to AWE switchpath, it woke the car up and i get deep burbbles when letting of the gas.
didnt check to see if a thread was ever started regarding the topic if what forceing pops n bangs does to the car.
I see people saying “pop n burble” tunes , per say there is no such thing, its just mapping more fuel and such. (Which clearly is not the best thing for your car or engine / turbos )
when i got my tune, i spent alot of time talking to a couple tuners (stateside and across pond)
all said same thing, there is no TUNE specific to turn on burbles it, its a matter if changing params etc.
in the case of my car, when i changed my exhaust to AWE switchpath, it woke the car up and i get deep burbbles when letting of the gas.
didnt check to see if a thread was ever started regarding the topic if what forceing pops n bangs does to the car.
Velos offers an enhanced P&B tune too but is open and tells you before you get it its not good for the longevity of your turbo (beyond also being too much for many). Its then up to you to decide. I hope and would wish all tuners would be like that.
I see people saying “pop n burble” tunes , per say there is no such thing, its just mapping more fuel and such. (Which clearly is not the best thing for your car or engine / turbos )
when i got my tune, i spent alot of time talking to a couple tuners (stateside and across pond)
all said same thing, there is no TUNE specific to turn on burbles it, its a matter if changing params etc.
in the case of my car, when i changed my exhaust to AWE switchpath, it woke the car up and i get deep burbbles when letting of the gas.
didnt check to see if a thread was ever started regarding the topic if what forceing pops n bangs does to the car.
Velos offers an enhanced P&B tune too but is open and tells you before you get it its not good for the longevity of your turbo (beyond also being too much for many). Its then up to you to decide. I hope and would wish all tuners would be like that.
I have a Weistec Stage 1 and had the pop & burble tune for a month and took it off after trying to get it toned down multiple times. At its “least aggressive” level, it was still way too much for me. I wanted just a little bit more pops/burbles but it seems like it’s almost all or nothing.
I see people saying “pop n burble” tunes , per say there is no such thing, its just mapping more fuel and such. (Which clearly is not the best thing for your car or engine / turbos )
all said same thing, there is no TUNE specific to turn on burbles it, its a matter if changing params etc.
Dude we know. I assume you're not intentionally trying to argue semantics, but pretty much everyone understands that when you say pop and burble tune, you are talking about a stage 1 or 2 tune that has that feature enabled.
I have one from EC as well. Car has catless downpipes and awe track so its basically a straight pipe. It is over the top but its fun sometimes, if I don't want to hear it ill just leave it in sport or comfort and it won't burble at all.
That is VERY TRUE! I tested that as well, in S, there are no Major Pops and Burbles.
My Stage 2 already Pops and Burbles, but as I said much more POPS than LONG burbles, but it burbles, but inside the car it isn't as noticerable. The POPS CAN BE LOUD as S$*&^ and will SCARE the heck out of the driver I pass, and they usually probably say, who is that dumb kid with the hunk of crap? Then they see the Mercedes and ask for a Jar of Grey Poupon at the Light.
I see people saying “pop n burble” tunes , per say there is no such thing, its just mapping more fuel and such. (Which clearly is not the best thing for your car or engine / turbos )
when i got my tune, i spent alot of time talking to a couple tuners (stateside and across pond)
all said same thing, there is no TUNE specific to turn on burbles it, its a matter if changing params etc.
in the case of my car, when i changed my exhaust to AWE switchpath, it woke the car up and i get deep burbbles when letting of the gas.
didnt check to see if a thread was ever started regarding the topic if what forceing pops n bangs does to the car.
Well of COURSE, a Pop and Burble Tune just takes what Mercedes Does and Amplifies it and car can do it and many tuners on Corvettes and other platforms are doing this now. To explain what is happening I will try to break it down. A Crackle and pop tune is simply an adjustment to specific ignition timing, fueling and other ECU parameters in order to achieve the desired effect. Crackles and pops are created when an explosion occurs outside the combustion chamber in the exhaust system.
Ideally ignition occurs just after TDC (top dead center – where the piston is at the highest position of its stroke). Now for a crackle and pop tune, during the exhaust stroke of the cycle, the ECU parameters are changed so unburnt fuel is ignited when the exhaust valve is still open in higher rpm area of the load table and there is a low throttle demand, i.e. during deceleration after a full-throttle run. If done correctly the explosion will still be happening as the exhaust valve opens, letting the sound escape into the exhaust. That sound echoing through the exhaust is what creates the telltale crackles and pops.
The issue can be that the pressure and heat waves can put added stress on turbocharger turbine wheels, exhaust system components, and can rapidly cause a catalytic converter to deteriorate. That is why the tuner needs to know what he is doing, obviously, Mercedes does this and knows how to do it. Hopefully just a regular Stage 1 or 2 tune from a tuner doesn't do anything to hurt the cars. On cars that do not have any catalytic converters and are straight piped, a crackle and pop tune can get some fireballs out of the exhaust.
When I had P&B Tune on yesterday, I was a little concerned that it MAY not be good for the car and the turbos? so that is also why I took it off. The car smelled when I got into the garage likely from the fuel getting ignited over and over?
Last edited by TexasBenzBandit; Sep 12, 2020 at 03:43 PM.
Well of COURSE, a Pop and Burble Tune just takes what Mercedes Does and Amplifies it and car can do it and many tuners on Corvettes and other platforms are doing this now. To explain what is happening I will try to break it down. A Crackle and pop tune is simply an adjustment to specific ignition timing, fueling and other ECU parameters in order to achieve the desired effect. Crackles and pops are created when an explosion occurs outside the combustion chamber in the exhaust system.
Ideally ignition occurs just after TDC (top dead center – where the piston is at the highest position of its stroke). Now for a crackle and pop tune, during the exhaust stroke of the cycle, the ECU parameters are changed so unburnt fuel is ignited when the exhaust valve is still open in higher rpm area of the load table and there is a low throttle demand, i.e. during deceleration after a full-throttle run. If done correctly the explosion will still be happening as the exhaust valve opens, letting the sound escape into the exhaust. That sound echoing through the exhaust is what creates the telltale crackles and pops.
The issue can be that the pressure and heat waves can put added stress on turbocharger turbine wheels, exhaust system components, and can rapidly cause a catalytic converter to deteriorate. That is why the tuner needs to know what he is doing, obviously, Mercedes does this and knows how to do it. Hopefully just a regular Stage 1 or 2 tune from a tuner doesn't do anything to hurt the cars. On cars that do not have any catalytic converters and are straight piped, a crackle and pop tune can get some fireballs out of the exhaust.
When I had P&B Tune on yesterday, I was a little concerned that it MAY not be good for the car and the turbos? so that is also why I took it off. The car smelled when I got into the garage likely from the fuel getting ignited over and over?
Dude - did you just copy and paste someone elses post verbatim (http://www.fluidmotorunion.com/crack...op-ecu-tuning/) and act like the expert? WTF?! I also find it funny that I've never seen someone refer to a burble tune with snap, crackle, pop before and I posted a youtube video in this forum a month or so ago in another thread with the exact description and you come in here "anyone else??!" GTFO you poser.
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The POPS are VERY LOUD when they hit right, and the Burbles go a Long Time, like a succession of up to a dozen burbles at times. I was going to keep it just for the weekend, but when I got home, I took it off and put my regular Stage 2 Tune back, so it may be fun for going out for a few times and Load it just to be Obnoxious, but if I had it on FULL Time, I would go Crazy, as it is just way too much! 
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