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Old Feb 11, 2021 | 06:46 PM
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Hey all, quick question, as we know the engine bay of the M177 gets mighty hot. I have been told of this "cool" (no pun intended) hack to help get the hot air out simply by cutting the seal at the back of the engine bay right behind the turbos and dump pipes. Makes sense to me as air flows from the front and will push the hot air out but has anyone done it and can recommend or not recommend (& why) before I go hacking away at this area.... cheers

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Old Feb 11, 2021 | 09:36 PM
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Hey all, quick question, as we know the engine bay of the M177 gets mighty hot. I have been told of this "cool" (no pun intended) hack to help get the hot air out simply by cutting the seal at the back of the engine bay right behind the turbos and dump pipes. Makes sense to me as air flows from the front and will push the hot air out but has anyone done it and can recommend or not recommend (& why) before I go hacking away at this area.... cheers
I have a guess who recommended that to you. I would not do it.
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Old Feb 11, 2021 | 10:14 PM
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I have a guess who recommended that to you. I would not do it.
yes, I know you know who.... haha.... but, it doesn't seem like a bad idea and I did have it told to me by someone else too... what's your objection to it? I can't see it doing any harm, only good
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Old Feb 11, 2021 | 10:20 PM
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yes, I know you know who.... haha.... but, it doesn't seem like a bad idea and I did have it told to me by someone else too... what's your objection to it? I can't see it doing any harm, only good
JMO: until you are worry to squeeze out every inch of performance on a dyno (which not necessarily is what you recognize driving it) it makes no difference. If you push the engine to be so close to getting too hot and that change saves you, you probably are working in the margin of error of damage anyway and that change will not remove your risk either. And it looks like hack. Heck, I can barely feel the difference from intakes and sure don’t see any measurable impact from my turbo blanket...maybe when you measure but nothing for every day driving.
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Old Feb 11, 2021 | 10:58 PM
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Agreed. Just another "hack"... but worth asking about...
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Just curious, but what problem are you trying to solve? Do you have an issue with the engine overheating or showing a significant loss in performance? The engineers who designed these cars know quite well how much heat there is and have taken measures to provide enough cooling, including blowing the fans for several minutes sometimes after parking the car to cool the turbos. In engineering we have an understanding that premature optimization is the root of all evil. There's no point in optimizing something before you understand the problem you are trying to solve and can effectively measure the before and after to determine if the optimization actually achieved what you were trying to solve, or if it had unintended consequences.
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Old Feb 11, 2021 | 11:26 PM
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The idea looks like a great way for snow, rain, ice, rodents and leaf debris to enter the engine bay, drain or fall onto the hot turbos and cause all manner of problems.
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Just curious, but what problem are you trying to solve? Do you have an issue with the engine overheating or showing a significant loss in performance? The engineers who designed these cars know quite well how much heat there is and have taken measures to provide enough cooling, including blowing the fans for several minutes sometimes after parking the car to cool the turbos. In engineering we have an understanding that premature optimization is the root of all evil. There's no point in optimizing something before you understand the problem you are trying to solve and can effectively measure the before and after to determine if the optimization actually achieved what you were trying to solve, or if it had unintended consequences.
im trying to solve heat potentially. No I don't have overheating issues at present but you do if you give the car a massive thrash for an extended period. Like a track day. I also am in the plans for adding bigger turbos and WMI and revised tune so heat may become and issue. I agree in what you said about the engineers etc but that is based on a stock set up and a 50 + year old male driving his mid life crisis into the ground by doing hot laps around the local shops...
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Old Feb 11, 2021 | 11:29 PM
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The idea looks like a great way for snow, rain, ice, rodents and leaf debris to enter the engine bay, drain or fall onto the hot turbos and cause all manner of problems.
fair answer but the guy I know who has done it says none of that happens....
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im trying to solve heat potentially. No I don't have overheating issues at present but you do if you give the car a massive thrash for an extended period. Like a track day. I also am in the plans for adding bigger turbos and WMI and revised tune so heat may become and issue. I agree in what you said about the engineers etc but that is based on a stock set up and a 50 + year old male driving his mid life crisis into the ground by doing hot laps around the local shops...
Well, I don't know about that. I suspect you'll have to stop and let the brakes cool before you have an engine overheating issue. At the AMG Driving Academy they are thrashing these cars all day long w/o any issues. Sure they have a few spares and a team of mechanics on site in case one breaks down, but they go all day and those cars are stock. Yes, if you start modifying it, though, then it's a different story.

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Old Feb 12, 2021 | 08:42 AM
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I heard about a new HACK that helps with Engine Bay heat as well.......


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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mjcw77
fair answer but the guy I know who has done it says none of that happens....
Can confirm, tried it and I agree it helps evacuate heat from the engine bay and nothing gets in. We put the gasket back on because the heat was causing our vehicle wrap to start unpeeling
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