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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 05:04 PM
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Well, that comes down to what you are looking for. The GT, IMO is a great car for the track, more so than the road. It's cramped inside with only two seats and the width and long nose makes it somewhat cumbersome in daily situations. Trunk is also not that practical, even though it has a good volume. The GT is also down in power compared to the C63S, so for me it would have to be at least a GT S. I decided for the C63S coupe, because to me it's just an all around better and more useable coupe for the road. If I'd regularly go to the track, I'd probably had a GT, but ironically, IMO, the C63 is a better grand tourer than the AMG GT that has grand tourer in its name.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 05:43 PM
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Well, that comes down to what you are looking for. The GT, IMO is a great car for the track, more so than the road. It's cramped inside with only two seats and the width and long nose makes it somewhat cumbersome in daily situations. Trunk is also not that practical, even though it has a good volume. The GT is also down in power compared to the C63S, so for me it would have to be at least a GT S. I decided for the C63S coupe, because to me it's just an all around better and more useable coupe for the road. If I'd regularly go to the track, I'd probably had a GT, but ironically, IMO, the C63 is a better grand tourer than the AMG GT that has grand tourer in its name.
Yeah, all good points. I don't track but use my cars daily. It's a bit hard to get out of the GT and I am 6.3". I know its down in power and in particular as I am also tuned on my C63s. Probably a simple tune can bring the GT power near what I have now, if I wanted to. I do like the GTS but for some reason not many here on my area and the main differences are nice on paper but most I don't use that much (like I had my C63s in race mode maybe less than a dozen time...). But its not so much who is the fastest to me anymore but the experience. And the GT just has that. Its that feel and presence on the street, the looks, and the somewhat brutal driving feel it has (this one already has a lowering kit). That and the power delivery is just so different than the C-class - coupe or sedan. I also like the earlier GT models are not as "polished" as later model years with the more advanced setups but also muted exhaust tones. This one just feels raw.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 05:54 PM
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This is a tough one. I’d personally go for the GT assuming you get a killer deal.

What are the terms of the trade and the spec for each car? (Mileage etc.)
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 06:04 PM
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I'm hoping for this to be my next move as well. If you can afford the loss in practicality, I say go for it! Good luck!
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 06:15 PM
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Yeah, all good points. I don't track but use my cars daily. It's a bit hard to get out of the GT and I am 6.3". I know its down in power and in particular as I am also tuned on my C63s. Probably a simple tune can bring the GT power near what I have now, if I wanted to. I do like the GTS but for some reason not many here on my area and the main differences are nice on paper but most I don't use that much (like I had my C63s in race mode maybe less than a dozen time...). But its not so much who is the fastest to me anymore but the experience. And the GT just has that. Its that feel and presence on the street, the looks, and the somewhat brutal driving feel it has (this one already has a lowering kit). That and the power delivery is just so different than the C-class - coupe or sedan. I also like the earlier GT models are not as "polished" as later model years with the more advanced setups but also muted exhaust tones. This one just feels raw.
It's certainly a somewhat different experience, mainly from the chassis perspective. Engine is essentially largely the same except for the dry sump, and you do get the sharper DCT vs. the 7-MCT, which if you remember I'm not a particular fan of due to the laggy manual mode. However, on the other hand a DCT is not that great in automatic mode, because if it has to shift out of sequence the shifts are slow, especially if the next needed gear is on the same shaft as the current gear. It goes back to the GT being more of a track car. The DCT is great if you mainly drive it in manual mode and proactively shift into the correct gear. The MCT is better at automatic shifting as it can skip gears and the shift times from any gear to any other gear can be done as fast as a a sequential shift. Also seems the DCT in the GT can be problematic, partly because it's a transaxle design and it integrates the e-diff. If you have issues with the diff you have to replace the whole transmission, which is an expensive proposition. If I remember correctly, the 2016 have known leaking issues and AMG extended the warranty. Not sure how the 2017 is. I do love DCTs, but really only in manual mode. The 9-MCT fixed the laggy manual mode of the 7-MCT, so it's now almost as fast as a DCT sequential shift, but it makes up for better out of sequence shifting during daily driving where you might suddenly stomp on the throttle and expect it to quickly kickdown several gears.

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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 06:19 PM
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This is a tough one. I’d personally go for the GT assuming you get a killer deal.

What are the terms of the trade and the spec for each car? (Mileage etc.)
Have not negotiated yet but used car prices are up these days (helps if I trade mine in). The GT has 12k miles and a few options including Aerodynamic Package, Performance Exhaust System, Black Headliner, Interior Package, Interior Lighting, Fixed Pan Roof, Fixed Rear Spoiler, 19/20" forged wheels...The C63s has 27k and except 360 camera pretty much all other options (Perf seats, PE exhaust, CF inside, Panomaric roof, distronic, lane keep, HUD etc) + a lot of expensive mods (see my signature for some key mods incl 2pc forged wheels, lowered, PSM, tune etc).
PS: The GT sticker price as optioned was $132k, they ask $89k.

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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 06:29 PM
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It's certainly a somewhat different experience, mainly from the chassis perspective. Engine is essentially largely the same except for the dry sump, and you do have the sharper DCT vs. the 7-MCT, which if you remember I'm not a particular fan of due to the laggy manual mode. However, on the other hand a DCT is not that great in automatic mode, because if it has to shift out of sequence the shifts are slow, especially if the next needed gear is on the same shaft as the current gear. It goes back to the GT being more of a track car. The DCT is great if you mainly drive it in manual mode and proactively shift into the correct gear. The MCT is better at automatic shifting as it can skip gears and the shift times from any gear to any other gear can be done as fast as a a sequential shift. Also seems the DCT in the GT can be problematic, partly because it's a transaxle design and it integrates the e-diff. If you have issues with the diff you have to replace the whole transmission, which is an expensive proposition. I think the 2016 have known leaking issues and AMG extended the warranty. Not sure how the 2017 is. I do love DCTs, but really only in manual mode. The 9-MCT fixed the laggy manual mode of the 7-MCT, so it's now almost as fast as a DCT sequential shift, but it makes up for better out of sequence shifting during daily driving where you might suddenly stomp on the throttle and expect it to quickly kickdown several gears.
Yeah, I pushed it a little during my test drive but kept it in automatic and it was a bit more clunky. One funny things is - when driving the GT because the way it drives you think you are going 120mph and when looking at the Odometer I was just at 85mph.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 06:33 PM
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Yeah, I pushed it a little during my test drive but kept it in automatic and it was a bit more clunky. One funny things is - when driving the GT because the way it drives you think you are going 120mph and when looking at the Odometer I was just at 85mph.
Yep, the lower to the ground the faster you think you are going. Since you brought up the perf seats in case it matters and depending on how tall you are, what bothered me in the GT was that the perf seats don't have the seat cushion extension like they do in the C63. At least for me, I always fully extend the seat cushion to support my legs. It makes a big difference in terms of comfort. I felt the seats overall are not as good in the GT. I also got the impression they are more narrow.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 06:45 PM
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I was searching for a GTS before going the c63 route. A GT will be next for sure but it'll have to be an S or a C. While you may get some more money for your trade due to the crazy prices right now that money will be going to the GT. When I was looking there were several examples of clean low mile S's in the $70's to mid $80's. I'd wait until the market resets.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 07:12 PM
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Yep, the lower to the ground the faster you think you are going. Since you brought up the perf seats in case it matters and depending on how tall you are, what bothered me in the GT was that the perf seats don't have the seat cushion extension like they do in the C63. At least for me, I always fully extend the seat cushion to support my legs. It makes a big difference in terms of comfort. I felt the seats overall are not as good in the GT. I also got the impression they are more narrow.
yeah, I do use me extensions all the way on my C too. But the seating position is more relaxed for me for long legs in the GT making it less of an issue as you can stretch your legs more. In the C, you need those extensions as the seating position is more upright and you need to angle your legs more.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 07:17 PM
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I was searching for a GTS before going the c63 route. A GT will be next for sure but it'll have to be an S or a C. While you may get some more money for your trade due to the crazy prices right now that money will be going to the GT. When I was looking there were several examples of clean low mile S's in the $70's to mid $80's. I'd wait until the market resets.
You probably right. But the more I look into it the less it’s a real big deal for me not being a GTS. Sure like to have the GTS goodies but as I said before the more I look into it the more I recognize that they are not that important for how I use cars as daily drivers and at times fun drives. The additional suspension options, dynamic engine mount and race mode are all nice but turns out not as essential. Interior wise it is optioned well to match the GTS standard options for the most part.
one thing does bother me when there are “unused” buttons and the GT has that where the GTS has the suspension button.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 07:23 PM
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Seems an emotional choice. You're 63 looks great! But as far as styling goes I'd trade.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 07:27 PM
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Seems an emotional choice. You're 63 looks great! But as far as styling goes I'd trade.
Yes it is...pounding my head against the wall as I do very much enjoy my C63s ...but than that GT styling is on another level even w/o mod's.
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 07:29 PM
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yeah, I do use me extensions all the way on my C too. But the seating position is more relaxed for me for long legs in the GT making it less of an issue as you can stretch your legs more. In the C, you need those extensions as the seating position is more upright and you need to angle your legs more.
The seating position is different in the sedan from what I remember. So some of what you describe does not apply to the coupe vs GT comparison. The coupe also has a higher shoulder line and no B-pillar right next to your face, so it feels different overall. I did miss the extension in the GT. You may be falling in love with the idea of a coupe, rather than the GT specifically, haha.

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Would you make the trade (2018 C63s vs 2017 GT).




An easy decision for me. I wouldn’t buy a sedan at any price 😛
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Yes it is...pounding my head against the wall as I do very much enjoy my C63s ...but than that GT styling is on another level even w/o mod's.
Do you have kiddo's or just you an the Mrs maybe? I agree. I do really enjoy the style of the GT cars, if it were me I'd do it. As I mentioned: your C looks great and it's easy to tell you've put the work/money into making it look better.....how long before the GT got the treatment?
This is a great dilemma to be in!
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 08:51 PM
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Do you have kiddo's or just you an the Mrs maybe? I agree. I do really enjoy the style of the GT cars, if it were me I'd do it. As I mentioned: your C looks great and it's easy to tell you've put the work/money into making it look better.....how long before the GT got the treatment?
This is a great dilemma to be in!
Thanks. Yeah, I have one more son at home for another year before he is off to college. He just got his first car and I just dropped it off to add coil overs, wheels and some other mods. But I would need some kind of 4 seater just for going to restaurants etc together. That’s a bit of a dilemma. But yeah, I can’t keep cars stock for too long. Have to work in 4 right now - even my wife likes hers done .
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If going for GT, you gotta go GTR. Yes it costs more but GTR is just at whole another level.
I would keep c63s over GT.

I would love a GT63s but too expensive. I would never opt for GT53 or 43.

I’ll probably get a FL E63s later.
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If going for GT, you gotta go GTR. Yes it costs more but GTR is just at whole another level.
I would keep c63s over GT.

I would love a GT63s but too expensive. I would never opt for GT53 or 43.

I’ll probably get a FL E63s later.
GTR is like double the price. Oh, while at the dealer we had to move a G550 square with factory lift. That was a beast of some other sort.
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If going for GT, you gotta go GTR. Yes it costs more but GTR is just at whole another level.
I would keep c63s over GT.

I would love a GT63s but too expensive. I would never opt for GT53 or 43.

I’ll probably get a FL E63s later.
I couldn't agree more! The GT63s is SO BADASS! And like you, I could never do a 53 or 43......would have to be a legit AMG But yeah....they are pricey! I'm hoping to score a nice used one in, oh......4 years I've been driving a 63 for almost 10 years, could NEVER go lower than that!
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I couldn't agree more! The GT63s is SO BADASS! And like you, I could never do a 53 or 43......would have to be a legit AMG But yeah....they are pricey! I'm hoping to score a nice used one in, oh......4 years I've been driving a 63 for almost 10 years, could NEVER go lower than that!
GT63s are nice but not my thing. Too big of a sedan, like a whale. No interest in 43/53 either and I am looking at the GT/GTS because it’s likely the last of its area before we all need to get used to the silent electric killers.
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GTR is like double the price. Oh, while at the dealer we had to move a G550 square with factory lift. That was a beast of some other sort.
Agreed GTR is like double the price. If going for GT, I believe 2018 and newer comes with the panamericana grill. If you can find one with the fixed GTR style wing, looks pretty sick.
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I couldn't agree more! The GT63s is SO BADASS! And like you, I could never do a 53 or 43......would have to be a legit AMG But yeah....they are pricey! I'm hoping to score a nice used one in, oh......4 years I've been driving a 63 for almost 10 years, could NEVER go lower than that!
Yeah hopefully they come down a little in price but good chance they will hold their values like our C63.
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