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From a pure performance perspective, if I compare the PTG intakes <> Stock Intakes, there is definitely a performance improvement. I can't quantitatively say there is an increase of X because I did not perform a same day dyno or back-to-back dragy runs, but it feels stronger overall.
From a sound perspective (and maybe I had just gotten used to the open air design with the modalworks) the PTG intakes are much more like stock. You don't get that "woosh" turbo sound, which I honestly miss a lot. Maybe VTA adapters will give me some of that sound back? I don't know what sounds those adapters actually make, though.
if you want the "woosh", unplug those intake feedback hoses and cap the entry to the intakes. The system then becomes VTA and you get the "woosh"... and on a plus side, you arent blowing hot expelled air back into the intakes...
I would bet intake is not your issue. I run MW intakes with Pure turbos. No crankcase issues and my sensors are just hanging out somewhere near the firewall. Car runs under 6 secs 60-130 in 77* Florida weather with 1800-1900 DA.
I would bet intake is not your issue. I run MW intakes with Pure turbos. No crankcase issues and my sensors are just hanging out somewhere near the firewall. Car runs under 6 secs 60-130 in 77* Florida weather with 1800-1900 DA.
Interesting. @legit_c63s you're in the 5.9X 60-130 range? That's impressive. Still trying to crack into 6's on 93 pump - traction is a major issue.
As soon as I swapped from MW to these intakes, the crankcase codes went away and pulls a hell of a lot harder.
I would bet intake is not your issue. I run MW intakes with Pure turbos. No crankcase issues and my sensors are just hanging out somewhere near the firewall. Car runs under 6 secs 60-130 in 77* Florida weather with 1800-1900 DA.
Nice! Do you have a Dragy screen shots? My best Dragy run was a 6.31s 60-130mph on 93. I think I’m a bit faster now but haven’t made any new 60-130ph passes since to confirm.
Jeff
Originally Posted by legit_c63s
I’m actually closer to mid 5’s on e50. Traction is an issue sometimes, working on getting that resolved. I was mid to low 6’s on 93 all day.
Soft codes for Crankcase ventilation at WOT eliminated by plumbing the airbox map sensors back into the intakes. Yes, I had to extend the wiring.. It was simple. So yes, you can have the best of both worlds. PTG stg 2 tune. Downpipes and Ti exhaust.
Are the lower holes for the vents the same size as for the air sensor?
Nice! Do you have a Dragy screen shots? My best Dragy run was a 6.31s 60-130mph on 93. I think I’m a bit faster now but haven’t made any new 60-130ph passes since to confirm.
Jeff
i sure do. Those ModalWork intakes aren’t too bad after all lol
This isn’t my fastest time and the tuning is still in progress
i sure do. Those ModalWork intakes aren’t too bad after all lol
This isn’t my fastest time and the tuning is still in progress
Thats moving!! Nice!! I recently did a a couple 60-100 dragy runs and got a 2.99 and a 3.00 back to back. I should be close to a 6.0x/6.1x 60-130mph currently. Just harder to make a 130mph pass safely around here so I use 60-100mph as a comparison bc they are easier/safer to do and they are reported on 60-130mph passes. Including my dragy runs below.
I have pure 1000s and modal works intakes and I have gotten a few CEL actually for crankcase codes….may have more soft codes even but haven’t checked lately.
idk about the soft codes robbing power, but if throws an actual Cel it damn sure does LoL.
The hard cel only happened maybe 2 or 3 times so far, and usually only when I’m doing a full on 60-130 pull or something.
Though maybe there are some soft codes too contributing to me not getting below 7s, other than the traction issue, and the 3000-5000 DA and above 100F temps half the yr haha.
I still should easily be in the 6s….now with cool weather, I should clear everything and find some time to get some pulls in and see.
it’d be nice if ModalWorks made an adapter for the sensors so we could easily fix this issue, but it seems like it’s only the people running bigger hungrier turbos maybe so they weren’t as aware of the issue?
id love some of the ptg/dime or eventuri style intakes but I’d rather not have to spend another $1500-3000 on more intakes plus I would miss my extra turbo noise.
they do look nice and glad working well for OP.
I have pure 1000s and modal works intakes and I have gotten a few CEL actually for crankcase codes….may have more soft codes even but haven’t checked lately.
idk about the soft codes robbing power, but if throws an actual Cel it damn sure does LoL.
The hard cel only happened maybe 2 or 3 times so far, and usually only when I’m doing a full on 60-130 pull or something.
Though maybe there are some soft codes too contributing to me not getting below 7s, other than the traction issue, and the 3000-5000 DA and above 100F temps half the yr haha.
I still should easily be in the 6s….now with cool weather, I should clear everything and find some time to get some pulls in and see.
it’d be nice if ModalWorks made an adapter for the sensors so we could easily fix this issue, but it seems like it’s only the people running bigger hungrier turbos maybe so they weren’t as aware of the issue?
id love some of the ptg/dime or eventuri style intakes but I’d rather not have to spend another $1500-3000 on more intakes plus I would miss my extra turbo noise.
they do look nice and glad working well for OP.
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⏱️ 700HP Facelift converted C63 S Coupe with Drexler 3.06 plated LSD
Originally Posted by noremaC
Finally able to get my hands on Premier Tuning Group's new carbon fiber intakes.
Originally Posted by noremaC
Thanks to this thread and your in depth photos I've purchased a set last night. I forked out the extra cash for the PTG intakes and they even gave me a bit of a discount which was dope. Can't wait to install these and just sit and look at my engine bay.
By the way @noremaC how's the fit with the pressure sensors? Just couldn't see a spot on the airboxes for them to plug in on the pics but they fit at the back with no issues aye?
Last edited by Jimmy_c63s; Nov 28, 2022 at 11:47 PM.
Thanks to this thread and your in depth photos I've purchased a set last night. I forked out the extra cash for the PTG intakes and they even gave me a bit of a discount which was dope. Can't wait to install these and just sit and look at my engine bay.
By the way @noremaC how's the fit with the pressure sensors? Just couldn't see a spot on the airboxes for them to plug in on the pics but they fit at the back with no issues aye?
Thanks to this thread and your in depth photos I've purchased a set last night. I forked out the extra cash for the PTG intakes and they even gave me a bit of a discount which was dope. Can't wait to install these and just sit and look at my engine bay.
By the way @noremaC how's the fit with the pressure sensors? Just couldn't see a spot on the airboxes for them to plug in on the pics but they fit at the back with no issues aye?
Love it, Jimmy!
there is a port in the OE location on these air boxes. They slide in just like OE - smooth as butter!
You mating these up to stock frame turbos or larger frames?
⏱️ 700HP Facelift converted C63 S Coupe with Drexler 3.06 plated LSD
Originally Posted by noremaC
Love it, Jimmy!
there is a port in the OE location on these air boxes. They slide in just like OE - smooth as butter!
You mating these up to stock frame turbos or larger frames?
Ah! Good to know about the sensors man thanks. I've got hybrid turbos on mine with a custom dyno tune running about 700hp so I'm hoping these little guys will help the engine breathe better because I'm currently using the stock intakes.
I wouldn't have chosen them without your post and pics.
Tuner told me I won't need a retune when installing new boxes to the hybrid turbos. Did you have to retune after installing the PTG boxes with your turbos? You don't need to aye?
Ah! Good to know about the sensors man thanks. I've got hybrid turbos on mine with a custom dyno tune running about 700hp so I'm hoping these little guys will help the engine breathe better because I'm currently using the stock intakes.
I wouldn't have chosen them without your post and pics.
Tuner told me I won't need a retune when installing new boxes to the hybrid turbos. Did you have to retune after installing the PTG boxes with your turbos? You don't need to aye?
you may need a reducer from intakes to turbos. Although, you may already have those on your current setup. I already had PTG1000 turbos installed with the larger couplers (as you can see in my photos).
No retune required. Intakes should be good with the stock intake air calibration strategies.
Share some pics and your thoughts when you get them installed and out for a rip!
⏱️ 700HP Facelift converted C63 S Coupe with Drexler 3.06 plated LSD
Originally Posted by noremaC
you may need a reducer from intakes to turbos. Although, you may already have those on your current setup. I already had PTG1000 turbos installed with the larger couplers (as you can see in my photos).
No retune required. Intakes should be good with the stock intake air calibration strategies.
Share some pics and your thoughts when you get them installed and out for a rip!
For sure man I'm pumped to install it tomorrow!! Will update the thread too.
When you took off the wire cover below the EVAP hose, did you wrap up the whole wiring? What did you use mate fleece tape or just electrical tape?
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