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Finally able to get my hands on Premier Tuning Group's new carbon fiber intakes. I am coming from Modalworks intakes, which were awesome but gave me a few headaches with crankcase ventilation codes, which was pulling a decent amount of power.
These don't have the turbo spool and intake sound that the Modalworks have but after a quick drive, I can tell that the power is back. I'm not sure if I was experiencing those codes because I am running PTG1000 turbos, but I can say now that the car is running strong.
As you can see from the pics, these intakes use the stock rubber grommets that mount to the stock rubber stand off locations, so you can pop them on and off like the stock intakes. I haven't seen another solution that utilizes these, which is really nice.
The dry carbon finish is incredible. These things weigh next to nothing. They are a very OEM looking option, with all of the benefits of a closed intake system.
Wow that next level stuff, looks amazing!! Do you know why your modal works intake was throwing codes?
Thanks! Modalworks intakes are awesome but for whatever reason (idk if it's because I run large turbos) they consistently threw these crankcase ventilation codes on Cyl 1 & 2. I know plenty of people run these intakes without an issue and make good power, so I'm not knocking them at all. They just didn't work for me. I run other modalworks products on my car and love them (they also have fantastic customer support).
Originally Posted by '1663s
Wow gorgeous, and the factory like fitment...looks reaally nice.
Yup, I was very happy with the fitment. I would tend to guess these were in R&D for quite a while, just by the way they bolt up & fit. Since they use the factory mounting locations for everything (including the airbox sensors at the top of the engine bay), installation was pretty straightforward (I completed without instructions, although they do have step-by-step with pictures).
It's not just the modal intakes. Basically any open setup will throw those stupid crankcase codes on some cars. I spent like 2 months trying to get around them and I think I did right before I sold my car. Lots of back and forth trouble shooting with modal works.
let us know if the codes come back! Those look great and wish i kept my car now but it was a love hate relationship. My car was just to picky with any mods to it but miss driving around with a xentry setup doing logs in vidiamo haha.
Ptg is good tuner and would always help me out...like the time I forced a tune on my car after the dealership flashed the latest firmware and my car didn't know what it was. Basically flashed every portion of the ecu to get me back up and running.
It's not just the modal intakes. Basically any open setup will throw those stupid crankcase codes on some cars. I spent like 2 months trying to get around them and I think I did right before I sold my car. Lots of back and forth trouble shooting with modal works.
let us know if the codes come back! Those look great and wish i kept my car now but it was a love hate relationship. My car was just to picky with any mods to it but miss driving around with a xentry setup doing logs in vidiamo haha.
Ptg is good tuner and would always help me out...like the time I forced a tune on my car after the dealership flashed the latest firmware and my car didn't know what it was. Basically flashed every portion of the ecu to get me back up and running.
that’s honestly surprising to me, because I never came across any negative feedback on MW intakes. It was incredible the power difference from just swapping the intakes out and clearing the DTC’s for the crankcase codes. I went out and did a couple test hits right after install of the PTG intakes and gained 1 second in my 60-130 times. Now obviously the conditions were different from the last 60-130 hits I did with the MW intakes but the difference is significant, solely from the fact that the codes don’t exist. It’s been a few days with the PTG’s on and so far, no issues and still pulling really hard (spinning through the top of 3rd).
I am running the ZAC intakes and have the same crankcase ventilation codes, didnt pop up as a cell but when scanned they pop up, i will be getting ptg intakes soon also
that’s honestly surprising to me, because I never came across any negative feedback on MW intakes. It was incredible the power difference from just swapping the intakes out and clearing the DTC’s for the crankcase codes. I went out and did a couple test hits right after install of the PTG intakes and gained 1 second in my 60-130 times. Now obviously the conditions were different from the last 60-130 hits I did with the MW intakes but the difference is significant, solely from the fact that the codes don’t exist. It’s been a few days with the PTG’s on and so far, no issues and still pulling really hard (spinning through the top of 3rd).
Intakes look pretty cool! I’m running the modalworks and pretty happy with them. Can we see the before and after dragy times?
I am running the ZAC intakes and have the same crankcase ventilation codes, didnt pop up as a cell but when scanned they pop up, i will be getting ptg intakes soon also
Does this ventilation codes cause any power loss?
Yes, as confirmed by PTG as well.
Originally Posted by AMGMD
Intakes look pretty cool! I’m running the modalworks and pretty happy with them. Can we see the before and after dragy times?
Perhaps someone can tune for open air intakes? I’m not entirely sure.
Here’s a quick before and after. To be honest, 7.6x is not great and I’ve done 7.1 with stock intakes and no cooling mods (albeit way better conditions and DA).
Once it cools down a bit I expect to be in the high 6.x range.
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Originally Posted by noremaC
Finally able to get my hands on Premier Tuning Group's new carbon fiber intakes. I am coming from Modalworks intakes, which were awesome but gave me a few headaches with crankcase ventilation codes, which was pulling a decent amount of power.
These don't have the turbo spool and intake sound that the Modalworks have but after a quick drive, I can tell that the power is back. I'm not sure if I was experiencing those codes because I am running PTG1000 turbos, but I can say now that the car is running strong.
As you can see from the pics, these intakes use the stock rubber grommets that mount to the stock rubber stand off locations, so you can pop them on and off like the stock intakes. I haven't seen another solution that utilizes these, which is really nice.
The dry carbon finish is incredible. These things weigh next to nothing. They are a very OEM looking option, with all of the benefits of a closed intake system.
You're on fire dude. What an engine bay. Those PTG intakes look a lot more functional than most others seeing as they are more closer and compacted towards the front of the bay.
Tell us, does it sound/feel different after the install? Honestly?
You're on fire dude. What an engine bay. Those PTG intakes look a lot more functional than most others seeing as they are more closer and compacted towards the front of the bay.
Tell us, does it sound/feel different after the install? Honestly?
Ha! Thanks Jimmy.
From a pure performance perspective, if I compare the PTG intakes <> Stock Intakes, there is definitely a performance improvement. I can't quantitatively say there is an increase of X because I did not perform a same day dyno or back-to-back dragy runs, but it feels stronger overall.
From a sound perspective (and maybe I had just gotten used to the open air design with the modalworks) the PTG intakes are much more like stock. You don't get that "woosh" turbo sound, which I honestly miss a lot. Maybe VTA adapters will give me some of that sound back? I don't know what sounds those adapters actually make, though.
From a pure performance perspective, if I compare the PTG intakes <> Stock Intakes, there is definitely a performance improvement. I can't quantitatively say there is an increase of X because I did not perform a same day dyno or back-to-back dragy runs, but it feels stronger overall.
From a sound perspective (and maybe I had just gotten used to the open air design with the modalworks) the PTG intakes are much more like stock. You don't get that "woosh" turbo sound, which I honestly miss a lot. Maybe VTA adapters will give me some of that sound back? I don't know what sounds those adapters actually make, though.
*****The turbo "whoosh" sounds come from the more open air design filters like in the pic below. VTA adapters will give you a "blow" off sound, but the whoosh sound comes from the spooling of the turbos versus the bleed off through the VTA adapters. They are related, but are not the same.
I personally like the "whoosh" sound and have open air elements myself, but they don't look as nice as what you have. Nobody really looks under my hood, except women, and they aren't looking under the cars hood.....
*****The turbo "whoosh" sounds come from the more open air design filters like in the pic below. VTA adapters will give you a "blow" off sound, but the whoosh sound comes from the spooling of the turbos versus the bleed off through the VTA adapters. They are related, but are not the same.
I personally like the "whoosh" sound and have open air elements myself, but they don't look as nice as what you have. Nobody really looks under my hood, except women, and they aren't looking under the cars hood.....
Haaaa! I bet.
Yeah, it's a big trade off and takes away from the overall driving experience without that sound that comes with the open air design. I say that in the same breath as performance, to me, is more important than sound and there wasn't an obvious way to get both with my setup.
Soft codes for Crankcase ventilation at WOT eliminated by plumbing the airbox map sensors back into the intakes. Yes, I had to extend the wiring.. It was simple. So yes, you can have the best of both worlds. PTG stg 2 tune. Downpipes and Ti exhaust.
Anyone know if the crankcase ventilation codes for open intakes can be tune out? Or is this something that happened on few cars as this is the first time i’ve seen anyone with modalworks intake mentioned this
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