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I really regret selling my fully loaded 2018 Designo Platinum White W205. W205 facelift and everything else after sounds terrible to me and it's just going to keep getting worse. Anyone else sell one they regret lately?
C63S Brabus 600, gated Ferrari 575M; gated Ferrari 430 Spider; a couple of others
That's a very very nice car. I love the seats. Were they specced from new? I don't think that was available in the UK.
There's also something to be said for an actual instrument cluster, although I quite like my digital one.
Having said that, there are advantages to the newer cars. Better gearbox, lower gears in low ratios should mean its faster, and you can fix the sound. Other updates also..Get a Brabus 640 tune, keep your warranty, and, well, you won't be sad. I am whizzing around Europe in my Brabus ATM and it is phenomenal.
But sorry to hear of your woes. Only cured by buying one!
That's a very very nice car. I love the seats. Were they specced from new? I don't think that was available in the UK.
There's also something to be said for an actual instrument cluster, although I quite like my digital one.
Having said that, there are advantages to the newer cars. Better gearbox, lower gears in low ratios should mean its faster, and you can fix the sound. Other updates also..Get a Brabus 640 tune, keep your warranty, and, well, you won't be sad. I am whizzing around Europe in my Brabus ATM and it is phenomenal.
But sorry to hear of your woes. Only cured by buying one!
Thank you. Yes the seats were specced and are a somewhat rare option. They were Designo White Pearl/Black Nappa leather. They actually had a pearlescent sheen to them that could be seen in the right light. Very nice indeed. I agree with your points however I'm still a big fan of the pre-facelift regardless.
Thank you. Yes the seats were specced and are a somewhat rare option. They were Designo White Pearl/Black Nappa leather. They actually had a pearlescent sheen to them that could be seen in the right light. Very nice indeed. I agree with your points however I'm still a big fan of the pre-facelift regardless.
I would not sell my PFL unless I’m getting a 2021 E63s or GT63S sedan. The sound on my preface lift is too addictive. Nothing out there can replace it. Now that I have the Renntech sound module, it has further enhanced the sound I’m looking for.
Just curious what did you replace your C63 for?
Beautiful car, sorry it’s gone.
I would not sell my PFL unless I’m getting a 2021 E63s or GT63S sedan. The sound on my preface lift is too addictive. Nothing out there can replace it. Now that I have the Renntech sound module, it has further enhanced the sound I’m looking for.
Just curious what did you replace your C63 for?
Beautiful car, sorry it’s gone.
Got a 2019 GT3 RS. I also put the offset stripe on it like I do all my cars. Got bored with this car fairly quickly and it's gone also. I'd take my W205 hands down over the RS any day knowing what I know now. The RS was all show and no go. You had to be wringing it out between 7-9K to have any fun which just isn't doable in normal everyday driving.
Haven't sold mine and no plans, but personally also not a fan of the PFL. The pops & bangs are artificially overdone and I much prefer my FL which pops when I'm actually driving it hard. Not to mention that it's dynamically a better car with the new transmission, traction control, improved suspension and rear diff. I get your sentiment, though. Personally I think Porsches are overrated. I get it, they handle well, but Porsche had to put decades of engineering and electronic assistance systems in these cars to make up for the inherently bad placement of the engine, that they can feel clinical at this point. Remember the widow maker? That car showed exactly what's wrong with Porsches, but they stuck with it, engineering the bejesus out of it to make it work. They certainly deserve kudos for being persistent.
Reading your post is making me feel more confident in my purchase - '20 C63S with the carbon fiber package - traded my '15 M4 and am still learning about what this car has and can do
Got a 2019 GT3 RS. I also put the offset stripe on it like I do all my cars. Got bored with this car fairly quickly and it's gone also. I'd take my W205 hands down over the RS any day knowing what I know now. The RS was all show and no go. You had to be wringing it out between 7-9K to have any fun which just isn't doable in normal everyday driving.
Sick GT3RS. I never driven one but I understand what you mean. Two very different vehicles.
A lot of C63 drivers seem to move onto Porsches. I drive pretty tame and like a nice V8 rumble with pops and bangs on normal driving. My next car would be used GT63S, similar to C63s but better imo.
My next car would be used GT63S, similar to C63s but better imo.
Unfortunately too heavy by a lot. Only becomes apparent if you drive them back to back. I went to an AMG track event in June at the Nürburgring. We drove the GT63S and GT63S E Performance on the track. Got home a couple of weeks later and took my C63 to the canyons. It felt like a new car after wrestling 4800 lbs around the track, 5300 lbs in case of the E Performance. The C63 is not light by any means, but you feel 800-1300 lbs. You can't hide that.
Unfortunately too heavy by a lot. Only becomes apparent if you drive them back to back. I went to an AMG track event in June at the Nürburgring. We drove the GT63S and GT63S E Performance on the track. Got home a couple of weeks later and took my C63 to the canyons. It felt like a new car after wrestling 4800 lbs around the track, 5300 lbs in case of the E Performance. The C63 is not light by any means, but you feel 800-1300 lbs. You can't hide that.
I’ve never driven a GT63 but it’s a car in my radar to test drive and consider in the future. I like the looks and sound of the GT63 and while it is heavier than a C63s, the GT63 still handles pretty good for a heavy car from what I hear. Besides I don’t do aggressive carving on the roads.
Spirited driving from time to time is more my style.
Having owned my car for 4 years, an upgrade is in my sights for 2023.
I’ve never driven a GT63 but it’s a car in my radar to test drive and consider in the future. I like the looks and sound of the GT63 and while it is heavier than a C63s, the GT63 still handles pretty good for a heavy car from what I hear. Besides I don’t do aggressive carving on the roads.
Spirited driving from time to time is more my style.
Having owned my car for 4 years, an upgrade is in my sights for 2023.
It does handle well for what it is, at least the GT63S. The E Performance was terrible, though. If I wanted a larger 4-door it would be at the top of my list, but I'm a coupe guy and I mean proper 2+2 with 2 doors.
⏱️ 700HP Facelift converted C63 S Coupe with Drexler 3.06 plated LSD
Originally Posted by benzbell
I really regret selling my fully loaded 2018 Designo Platinum White W205. W205 facelift and everything else after sounds terrible to me and it's just going to keep getting worse. Anyone else sell one they regret lately?
Can you buy another one mate? What a great looking car you had. Original 2018 baller package as well with those seats 👏
Try and get another one if you can. Even if it doesn't have those nice seats or same spec, check out the auctions and see if you can get one even just as a cheaper restomod and restore her as a project. That's what I would do.
I'm never selling mine I've had my fair share of supercars and sports cars but this one, for some reason, has a special place in my heart. I don't know I guess because it's looks beautiful and has so much road presence and goes hard.
Even if she needs a few parts here and there every so often.......
I'll still be here in 40 years with my C 63 S even when you blokes are flying around or whatever 😋
Sick GT3RS. I never driven one but I understand what you mean. Two very different vehicles.
A lot of C63 drivers seem to move onto Porsches. I drive pretty tame and like a nice V8 rumble with pops and bangs on normal driving. My next car would be used GT63S, similar to C63s but better imo.
I have a hard time to believe the GT3 RS is not enough fun but understand if you typically drive from stop light to stop light never reaching 4kRPM. Maybe the Turbo S would do the trick....plenty of go on those and in particular 992. I have a 992 Carrera and can directly compare to the C63s (tuned) and while the C63s just felt more brut power it actually was not faster. The 992 is much more controlled and I can put mid 3's on the 0-60, which I never got from the C63s. Also, in the sound category - yes, nothing sounds like the AMG C63s (maybe the F-types...) but after adding an IPE valved exhaust on mine its very enjoyable (including pops and bangs like in the AMG in sport mode but also high pitch "supercar" shifting sound in sport plus).
PS: and as much as I loved my C63s its just a different car than the Porsche, which is designed as a sports coupe from ground up and you can recognize the difference quickly. I never could turn into corners as fast with the C63s...even with lowered, stiffened suspension it just is much more top heavy and the heavy engine in front vs the rear engine in the Porsche are just too big differences to overcome. The 992 might be a little too good in a sense that its not as violent as older generations and just handles so much better that until you really reach its limit its pretty easy going.
Can you buy another one mate? What a great looking car you had. Original 2018 baller package as well with those seats 👏
Try and get another one if you can. Even if it doesn't have those nice seats or same spec, check out the auctions and see if you can get one even just as a cheaper restomod and restore her as a project. That's what I would do.
I'm never selling mine I've had my fair share of supercars and sports cars but this one, for some reason, has a special place in my heart. I don't know I guess because it's looks beautiful and has so much road presence and goes hard.
Even if she needs a few parts here and there every so often.......
I'll still be here in 40 years with my C 63 S even when you blokes are flying around or whatever 😋
Totally agree
But what about a GTc? I sometimes think on selling mine to get one….🙈
OP had some sick rides. Think you need a GT Black Series to keep you satisfied.
Although the sound isn’t that good on the BS 😕, but can be fixed I’m sure.
Not a good daily so perhaps getting into another C63S would be a good idea.
2010 BMW E63 M6 Coupe 2023 AMG C63s Coupe 2005 YZF-R1
I love my 2021 FL magno white coupe. it just brings a smile to my face every time I take it out for a spin. Its commanding road presence turns a lot of heads, many more than my black E63 M6 which is more of a sleeper.
I test drove a couple of PFL’s before deciding to just pay the extra cash for much more car. I’ll admit the sound is better in the PFL, but I heard the FL starts opening up with more fireworks once you reach the 5-10k mile range. I’m about 1k away from there at the moment so we’ll see if the sound picks up.
Superswiss, you say the pops and bangs seem artificial, yet we have artificial sound piped through our FL speakers. Which I don’t think was necessary, in my opinion that’s one of the only cons the FL has over the PFL.
Superswiss, you say the pops and bangs seem artificial, yet we have artificial sound piped through our FL speakers. Which I don’t think was necessary, in my opinion that’s one of the only cons the FL has over the PFL.
That has yet to be confirmed. So far it's hearsay as far as I'm concerned. But even so, AMG pumps in the real sound into the cabin. I don't really have an issue with that. That's not fake to me, that's just amplifying the real sound. Fake to me is what BMW is doing which is a modulated recording. The US spec FL also don't have the GPF, so I think the sound being pumped into the cabin might be a Euro spec thing. I actually drove Euro spec C63S coupes at the Nürburgring in June, but I didn't really pick up on sound differences to be honest. Maybe they were a bit quieter.
I love my 2021 FL magno white coupe. it just brings a smile to my face every time I take it out for a spin. Its commanding road presence turns a lot of heads, many more than my black E63 M6 which is more of a sleeper.
I test drove a couple of PFL’s before deciding to just pay the extra cash for much more car. I’ll admit the sound is better in the PFL, but I heard the FL starts opening up with more fireworks once you reach the 5-10k mile range. I’m about 1k away from there at the moment so we’ll see if the sound picks up.
Superswiss, you say the pops and bangs seem artificial, yet we have artificial sound piped through our FL speakers. Which I don’t think was necessary, in my opinion that’s one of the only cons the FL has over the PFL.
I don't see that happening and any perceived improvement would be strictly placebo in my opinion. Most modern exhausts are made with stainless, inconel, titanium or whatever material and there is nothing to change or "break in" over time. Some might be thinking of old school mufflers that would have fiberglass packing and over time the fiberglass would break down thus making the car louder.
I realize we might have gotten sidetracked from the topic but in case anyone is interested in hearing PFL exhaust and FL exhaust difference. The video below demonstrates with a Renntech exhaust valve on and off for both.
I realize we might have gotten sidetracked from the topic but in case anyone is interested in hearing PFL exhaust and FL exhaust difference. The video below demonstrates with a Renntech exhaust valve on and off for both.
Just skip to
Can't stand this gimp please don't share his videos here.....
Once upon a time the bloke promised owners here to help out with his "inside amg" info on the exhaust sound of the facelift but ended up being a charlatan and couldn't do it. Our boy Jimmy told him straight over here
2010 BMW E63 M6 Coupe 2023 AMG C63s Coupe 2005 YZF-R1
Originally Posted by superswiss
That has yet to be confirmed. So far it's hearsay as far as I'm concerned. But even so, AMG pumps in the real sound into the cabin. I don't really have an issue with that. That's not fake to me, that's just amplifying the real sound. Fake to me is what BMW is doing which is a modulated recording. The US spec FL also don't have the GPF, so I think the sound being pumped into the cabin might be a Euro spec thing. I actually drove Euro spec C63S coupes at the Nürburgring in June, but I didn't really pick up on sound differences to be honest. Maybe they were a bit quieter.
Very fair points. I wasn’t aware that the piped sound in FL’s was just speculation, I was under the impression that it was confirmed, so that’s good to know.
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