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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast
not even close. Notice how he's getting CONSISTENT pops and bags during each rev? On ours we get it very sporadically, maybe 1 rev out of every 5-6.
I should've been more clear. Was not talking about the pops but rather the volume and general tone of the exhaust. It's hard to tell through video though.

If we're talking about pops and just plain revving, mine will do that too, particularly after aggressive drives. There will days that I get nothing but that's when I've been driving around normally. After almost a year of ownership, I seriously suspect the backfires are programmed to how the car is being driven rather than on demand 24/7 like the pre-FL. When I was canyon carving hard in Austin, the backfires were crazy and nonstop all over the power band. Never had the exhaust been so aggressive other than when the car was being driven that hard.

Anyways, it'll be hard to know for sure if the facelift UAE exhaust is similar to the US one, but I'm sure we'll know after rokenr releases the driving video
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 08:41 PM
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Watch this new video on the 2020 C63s Coupe, the car sounds awesome, it burbles, crackles and pops when he is driving the car aggressively. I believe he is in Netherlands, so he should be driving the same car that we are in the US.


I'll be getting my 2020 C63s Coupe in the next few days, just waiting for the vpc to release it to the dealership so I'll find out for myself soon.
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Old Dec 29, 2019 | 11:54 PM
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Got some mean non-stop crackles revving after normal driving today. Guess the car was in a good mood lol

Volume is no longer an issue for me after installing the ASR module to keep valves 100% open. All I'm missing is the pre-FL downshift pops and it'd be perfection
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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankenswat
Im not sure why that ****** remove before race pretended to care about this issue briefly months ago. Oh yeah I do know why. Because he was in cahoots with MB knowing GOD DAMN well the press car he was reviewing wasn’t going to be what the production car sounded like. He’s just as guilty as MB and in most cases more guilty considering how many people made buy decision based off his ****stick breeding videos.
Look at him. The guy is a closet poofter. Would you really believe a man with a gay voice like that?
He comes on here, pretends to give a sh*t, shared his little videos and got free clicks off you lot. Hook line and sinker.

For those who feel the need to share these click-baity videos/channels/people like Remove Before Race, please don't. We are sick of these sh*t kicker Youtubers and their bullsh*t money-hungry videos.

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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 11:41 PM
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I have 1500 miles on my 2020. If I put it in Race mode and turn on the exhaust it does all the popping and crackling I want. And I haven't really broken it in yet!
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 12:51 AM
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I have 1500 miles on my 2020. If I put it in Race mode and turn on the exhaust it does all the popping and crackling I want. And I haven't really broken it in yet!
Can you make a video for us young Bruce?
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 04:14 AM
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Just in case anyone missed it, seems like the spec that UAE gets is different from the US/EU ones you guys are discussing - the car in the video sounds a lot like the one I have.
Do us a favor and stop posting this @roken content. The guy comes on here for a few days, pretends to give a sh*t and help out but only lured people to watch his poofy videos.

We don't want to see his skinny little hand or his click-bait rubbish here.

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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by George_1992
Stop posting @roken content. Wake up son. The guy comes on here, pretends to give a sh*t and help out but only lured people to watch his poofy videos.

We don't want to see his skinny little hand or his click-bait here.
You do realize that it was posted before you joined this forum right? Calm down a little
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 04:29 AM
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You do realize that it was posted before you joined this forum right? Calm down a little
Been a long time lurker before I joined my friend. Truth is, he came on here and pretended to give a damn about the issue and threw his little videos in the mix just to get some views. Stop supporting these bullsh*t artists.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 04:35 AM
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You do realize that it was posted before you joined this forum right? Calm down a little
Just an angry little man, let him be. I’ve been on this forum for many many years, and love this community.


Apologies for not posting here more often guys, but I’ve tried to keep in touch with many of you and update my Instagram on this topic. I’ve still been talking in the background with AMG and I’m still lumbered with a C63S that I don’t like or want. I can’t see anything changing, it’s only getting worse in every new car I try. AMG engineers are crying about how things will be even worse in the future, so I don’t see much hope if you’re in the EU.

My GT R Pro feels quieter than our new C63S’ sometimes, and though it bangs on downshift, still seems to limit them as the C63 does. The AMG cars in the Middle East and Australia (apparently) seem unaffected for now, though I know the OPF has creeped into these territories it seems the software is not throttling the sound.

I’ve resigned myself to the fact that if we buy cars in the UK/EU and want nice sound then it’s either old AMGs or we have to do something aftermarket.

i personally feel we were miss-sold a product considering how the exhaust on the press cars was different, but they can probably wriggle out of that due to reg changes.

If anything changes I’ll post here for sure.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by roken
Just an angry little man, let him be. I’ve been on this forum for many many years, and love this community.
Says the poof with tiny little hands and arms hahahaha.

Finally got your attention after 6 months of radio silence. Sad that I've had to call you out just to get a response. Let me guess, you've been too busy "filming" to bother responding to other members before I started?

Post your click-bait somewhere else. Don't pretend to care just to get views on your videos here.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by roken
I’ve been on this forum for many many years, and love this community....
If anything changes I’ll post here for sure.
Mate, you either do or you don't. But don't give these fellas false hope if you're not willing to help them. You know that quite a few of these guys were irritated because you showed interest earlier about the issue and being a content creator they hoped that you were able to pull some strings for them with AMG etc. but you disappeared.

If you love the community, help these guys get a word through to AMG about this (if you can). If you can't, it's all good mate. Keep doing your thing on Youtube.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy_c63s
Mate, you either do or you don't. But don't give these fellas false hope if you're not willing to help them. You know that quite a few of these guys were irritated because you showed interest earlier about the issue and being a content creator they hoped that you were able to pull some strings for them with AMG etc. but you disappeared.

If you love the community, help these guys get a word through to AMG about this (if you can). If you can't, it's all good mate. Keep doing your thing on Youtube.
That's it. I'm not even affected by this issue but it irks me that people like this come on here, act like the GO-TO man on the issue and conveniently posts up his videos, deletes comments on his videos by other members here (or whatever happened) then disappears for the rest of 2019 without a peep, then comes back and claims to love the community? Come on. Pull the other one.

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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Xec
Sounds like the US one to me?

Can’t tell unless he gets it on the road and see what the pops are like and if it will do on downshifts

All the facelifts have less crackly exhausts, but my understanding was the major volume neutering was UK-only

Shmee found similar volume differences between UK and US cars including even the Ford GT and Senna
For sure man, can’t confirm 100% until I go out in one but if you see how the bangs didn’t stop like our cars, and also my experience with the massively loud GLC63S I had on the trip shows there’s clearly big differences between regions.

Catching up on the thread, loving the mods being done here! 😆 Will refer people looking for solutions back to this thread.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy_c63s
Mate, you either do or you don't. But don't give these fellas false hope if you're not willing to help them. You know that quite a few of these guys were irritated because you showed interest earlier about the issue and being a content creator they hoped that you were able to pull some strings for them with AMG etc. but you disappeared.

If you love the community, help these guys get a word through to AMG about this (if you can). If you can't, it's all good mate. Keep doing your thing on Youtube.
That’s fair enough buddy! I totally get that point of view.

Though I didn’t update here, I did my fair share of leg work behind the scenes including sending AMG Germany press comparison videos of press vs final, at their behest. Initially they weren’t even acknowledging it.

In the end they say it comes down to regs, but when my GT63S is newer and makes more noise I don’t know what to believe.

I’m visiting them again after March I hope, so I’ll try and push the topic a final time, just to see if an update looms.

I struggle to keep up with forums so as I always say please PM me here and keep an eye on my Instagram (as many of you here do) and this type of stuff i will post updates on.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by George_1992
That's it. I'm not even affected by this issue but it irks me that people like this come on here, act like the GO-TO man on the issue and conveniently posts up his videos, deletes comments on his videos by other members here (or whatever happened) then disappears for the rest of 2019 without a peep, then comes back and claims to love the community? Come on. Pull the other one.

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Yeah I get ya. Let's hope AMG can fix this thing up for the facelift blokes aye?

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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 06:57 AM
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy_c63s
Member @FDNewbie listed these instructions on how to check if your prefacelift C63s has the updated software.

To check, if your car has the new software, one can try the following procedure:

1. Accelerate in "S+" to ~4,000rpm and lift the throttle. You should hear at least (!) 4 exhaust pops.
2. Also, when slowing down in "S+" to a standstill, the 2->1 Shift should take place at 10mph (with the old software it was at around 15mph).

I went out tonight to check if I had the updated software in mine. Apparently so, as my car will downshift into 1st at around 18-19km/h (11mph).

Don't know if mine sounds the way it should or if it's been neutered? In S+ when I accelerate to 4,000rpm and lift the throttle, I only get one "bang"
In P, in S+ this is a video of mine at a 5,500rpm rev i did tonight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrzjW2OEWsI
I updated my software on my pre-facelift about 2 months ago, I get 5+ bangs at that rev range, really loud ones!
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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Not sure what are you angry about, I've never even had a thought that one guy (roken) will change the mind of EU regulations lol. Imagine him walking into their office and asking to change regulations because a few people on the car forum are not happy 😆 wtf is wrong with you all. It has absolutely nothing to do with AMG, its just the way it is. Or you think AMG engineers are happy to make the brand they love not as loud as it was?
Btw I'm at 5k miles now and cars pops, bangs and crackles a lot just not as loud as the pre facelift.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 10:16 AM
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Not sure what are you angry about, I've never even had a thought that one guy (roken) will change the mind of EU regulations lol. Imagine him walking into their office and asking to change regulations because a few people on the car forum are not happy 😆 wtf is wrong with you all. It has absolutely nothing to do with AMG, its just the way it is. Or you think AMG engineers are happy to make the brand they love not as loud as it was?
Btw I'm at 5k miles now and cars pops, bangs and crackles a lot just not as loud as the pre facelift.
AMG hate that they have to do it! They really hate it. Can’t tell you their feelings on the 4 cylinder C63...

ah it’s all good man, all of you guys are awesome just ignore the bad eggs; and I did go quiet last year after getting busy, so it is what it is!
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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George!!! I can tell your mad because you completely changed your stye of post! I like the letters you post here, its a breath of fresh air! No need to get angry at Roken.

Roken is a content creator! He received a press car and filmed it! Do you think he knew the production cars would sound different? Of course not!

And you guys really have to be blinded with rage to think the guy doesn't love AMG and isn't as angry about this as the rest of us. The reality is, NONE OF US can make it change. Its extremely sad, but the change in sound seems to be a reality we just have to accept. I came to the conclusion that, even though my car is a lease, I had no choice but to take a knife to the exhaust. If it was financially realistic for me, I'd get an aftermarket setup. But for now, ASR and secondary cat delete is all I can do.

Do I feel I was misled into choosing this car? Absolutely! Is it all Roken's fault? Absolutely not!

There were several videos posted of press cars which misrepresented what we were buying into, but we can't blame the content creators because at the end of the day, maliciously or not, the were unknowingly used by MB to portray these cars as something they aren't.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 01:34 PM
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AMG hate that they have to do it! They really hate it. Can’t tell you their feelings on the 4 cylinder C63...

ah it’s all good man, all of you guys are awesome just ignore the bad eggs; and I did go quiet last year after getting busy, so it is what it is!
Yep you are right, sound to me like this guy bought is facelift trusting sound issue would be fixed sooner then later.

Must be kind of frustrating though, I understand that
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 03:38 PM
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Just an angry little man, let him be. I’ve been on this forum for many many years, and love this community.


Apologies for not posting here more often guys, but I’ve tried to keep in touch with many of you and update my Instagram on this topic. I’ve still been talking in the background with AMG and I’m still lumbered with a C63S that I don’t like or want. I can’t see anything changing, it’s only getting worse in every new car I try. AMG engineers are crying about how things will be even worse in the future, so I don’t see much hope if you’re in the EU.

My GT R Pro feels quieter than our new C63S’ sometimes, and though it bangs on downshift, still seems to limit them as the C63 does. The AMG cars in the Middle East and Australia (apparently) seem unaffected for now, though I know the OPF has creeped into these territories it seems the software is not throttling the sound.

I’ve resigned myself to the fact that if we buy cars in the UK/EU and want nice sound then it’s either old AMGs or we have to do something aftermarket.

i personally feel we were miss-sold a product considering how the exhaust on the press cars was different, but they can probably wriggle out of that due to reg changes.

If anything changes I’ll post here for sure.
agree. This is why I sold mine.

My 18' GLE63s coupe still sounds like a God of Thunder

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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 08:51 PM
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