Need square set up for track use
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Need square set up for track use
So far been happy with my ECS02 at auto X but it’s time for a track set. Ideally I want square so I can rotate endurance 200 tires
has anyone fitted the rear wheels and stock 265/35/19 up front in stock suspension with no issues? My worry is rubbing and clearance. Plus will the computer throw a fit with the diameter change of 245 vs the 265. So I’d be running 4 of the rear wheels all around.
im tired of staggered, ideally 265/35/19 all around but I would also consider 275/35/19 as they are a common endurance tire size.
has anyone fitted the rear wheels and stock 265/35/19 up front in stock suspension with no issues? My worry is rubbing and clearance. Plus will the computer throw a fit with the diameter change of 245 vs the 265. So I’d be running 4 of the rear wheels all around.
im tired of staggered, ideally 265/35/19 all around but I would also consider 275/35/19 as they are a common endurance tire size.
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Do you have a coupe or a sedan? I am running 275/35/19 tires on my stock front wheels on my coupe with stock suspension. No rubbing at all. Haven't put the front wheels on the rear of the car so I have no idea of that would fit. Don't think the rear wheels will work given the different offsets, but I don't know.
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Do you have a coupe or a sedan? I am running 275/35/19 tires on my stock front wheels on my coupe with stock suspension. No rubbing at all. Haven't put the front wheels on the rear of the car so I have no idea of that would fit. Don't think the rear wheels will work given the different offsets, but I don't know.
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Compare the offsets of your front and rear wheels and see if they'll work. Or maybe a coupe front wheel compared to the sedan rear wheel. Might get you close enough that a spacer could make it fit.
Don't think the computer will care about the 19" vs 20" wheel diameter so long as the overall diameter with the tire mounted is within the range of the OEM setup.
Don't think the computer will care about the 19" vs 20" wheel diameter so long as the overall diameter with the tire mounted is within the range of the OEM setup.
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Compare the offsets of your front and rear wheels and see if they'll work. Or maybe a coupe front wheel compared to the sedan rear wheel. Might get you close enough that a spacer could make it fit.
Don't think the computer will care about the 19" vs 20" wheel diameter so long as the overall diameter with the tire mounted is within the range of the OEM setup.
Don't think the computer will care about the 19" vs 20" wheel diameter so long as the overall diameter with the tire mounted is within the range of the OEM setup.
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Someone in this thread was running 19×9.5 et30 with a 265 tire and it seems to fit pretty well. Stock rear for sedan is 19×9.5 et56. 26mm is a huge difference, so probably wont work.
Someone in this thread was running 19×9.5 et30 with a 265 tire and it seems to fit pretty well. Stock rear for sedan is 19×9.5 et56. 26mm is a huge difference, so probably wont work.
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For Track days - Keep in mind even though a Performance AMG C63S - EX FACTORY THERE IS NO FRONT Camber or Caster and no Rear Camber adjustment !
All to do with cost cutting and ever increasing speed of new car assembly lines.
Often quoted reassuring full Front & Rear '4' wheel alignment is only Toe "directional" adjustment.
Yet essential to adjust / fine tune tires for both clearance and tire contact angles - resolving costly, premature edge wear.
OR TRACK DAYS - being able to quickly dial in extra negative Camber to dramatically reduce understeer (plus increasing track width).
Allowing to hit those corner apexes every time and go deeper into the corners with increased traction and braking response in the pursuit of front row of the grid lap times.
SEE SPOILER
AUDI to VOLVO - Experience Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings (and costs) Since 1964 !
All to do with cost cutting and ever increasing speed of new car assembly lines.
Often quoted reassuring full Front & Rear '4' wheel alignment is only Toe "directional" adjustment.
Yet essential to adjust / fine tune tires for both clearance and tire contact angles - resolving costly, premature edge wear.
OR TRACK DAYS - being able to quickly dial in extra negative Camber to dramatically reduce understeer (plus increasing track width).
Allowing to hit those corner apexes every time and go deeper into the corners with increased traction and braking response in the pursuit of front row of the grid lap times.
SEE SPOILER
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AUDI to VOLVO - Experience Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings (and costs) Since 1964 !
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For Track days - Keep in mind even though a Performance AMG C63S - EX FACTORY THERE IS NO FRONT Camber or Caster and no Rear Camber adjustment !
All to do with cost cutting and ever increasing speed of new car assembly lines.
Often quoted reassuring full Front & Rear '4' wheel alignment is only Toe "directional" adjustment.
Yet essential to adjust / fine tune tires for both clearance and tire contact angles - resolving costly, premature edge wear.
OR TRACK DAYS - being able to quickly dial in extra negative Camber to dramatically reduce understeer (plus increasing track width).
Allowing to hit those corner apexes every time and go deeper into the corners with increased traction and braking response in the pursuit of front row of the grid lap times.
SEE SPOILER
AUDI to VOLVO - Experience Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings (and costs) Since 1964 !
All to do with cost cutting and ever increasing speed of new car assembly lines.
Often quoted reassuring full Front & Rear '4' wheel alignment is only Toe "directional" adjustment.
Yet essential to adjust / fine tune tires for both clearance and tire contact angles - resolving costly, premature edge wear.
OR TRACK DAYS - being able to quickly dial in extra negative Camber to dramatically reduce understeer (plus increasing track width).
Allowing to hit those corner apexes every time and go deeper into the corners with increased traction and braking response in the pursuit of front row of the grid lap times.
SEE SPOILER
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AUDI to VOLVO - Experience Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings (and costs) Since 1964 !
i’m very well aware and got your unsolicited private message about it. So far -2.2 on max summer tires is giving me even tire wear across. With endurance 200 and flipping them as needed I should be fine at the sweet spot. 1/32 and 3/32 toe has fixed inside tire wear for me. 10k on ECS02 and 6/32 deep on outside inside and center of tire. With auto X use.
if I ever bump into a open class, I’ll consider your bushings. As then I’m allowed to play with that. But in F stock class I am not allowed camber bushings.
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OK now it all makes sense - in F stock class you’re not allowed Camber adjustment.
Your initial mention of “Track Days” (and there being no OEM Camber adjustment) conjures as other owners point out plough understeer and shredding tires !!
AUDI to VOLVO - Experience Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings (and costs) Since 1964 !
Your initial mention of “Track Days” (and there being no OEM Camber adjustment) conjures as other owners point out plough understeer and shredding tires !!
AUDI to VOLVO - Experience Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings (and costs) Since 1964 !
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OK now it all makes sense - in F stock class you’re not allowed Camber adjustment.
Your initial mention of “Track Days” (and there being no OEM Camber adjustment) conjures as other owners point out plough understeer and shredding tires !!
AUDI to VOLVO - Experience Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings (and costs) Since 1964 !
Your initial mention of “Track Days” (and there being no OEM Camber adjustment) conjures as other owners point out plough understeer and shredding tires !!
AUDI to VOLVO - Experience Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings (and costs) Since 1964 !
understeer? None at all on stock alignment in my experience
the time I did experience it was on UHP AS tires. Moment you swap to summers with stiffer sidewalls and get the tire PSI right. Car was neutral with quick oversteer if you didn’t mind the throttle. Front end hook was strong.
now with super 200, those tires prefer more neg camber. Around -3.0 to -3.5 to get that scrub where it hooks and rips through corners. But -2.2 isn’t horrible.
