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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 06:34 AM
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Question WTB CL600 W215 ABC PUMP

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Can you please advise best place to buy an ABC Pump for W215 - CL600.

2003 year, part 0034665201

Any reputable sellers here able to sell one?

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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 10:51 AM
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Not sure if the pre 2003 Cl600 pumps are different but it helps to put the year of your CL600.
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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Go to www.autohausaz.com and search under power steering pump. It's a tandem pump that also drives the ABC system.

There is one on Ebay for a little cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W215-W220-S430-S55-CL55-LUK-OEM-Power-Steering-Pump-0024666001-/350610256469?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51a1fff255&vxp=mtr

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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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2003 year, part 0034665201

thanks!
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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fatjoe,
I replaced the entire ABC system and if I had to do it again
I would install struts instead. It will cost less and is 100%
more reliable.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheBob
fatjoe,
I replaced the entire ABC system and if I had to do it again
I would install struts instead. It will cost less and is 100%
more reliable.
Did you do the Struttmasters conversion? If so, please give a review and compare with the stock ABC suspension.
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PorscheBob
fatjoe,
I replaced the entire ABC system and if I had to do it again
I would install struts instead. It will cost less and is 100%
more reliable.
No kidding, well we've already purchased the ABC pump which should arrive shortly.
We're going to start there and see what happens.
From what I've read around, the expansion hoses & accumulator can be trouble parts too.
I assume you replaced all these too.

Who did your replacement?
Did you buy parts online? (if so where)

@BlownV8

There is a review on one of the forums.
In 1 line.

It's noticeably less stable than ABC.
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fatjoe
There is a review on one of the forums.
In 1 line.

It's noticeably less stable than ABC.
Yes, I read the reviews. The only person on the forum that did the conversion is very happy. It's the ones that have never tried it are giving it a poor review.
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
Yes, I read the reviews. The only person on the forum that did the conversion is very happy. It's the ones that have never tried it are giving it a poor review.
I don't think he's "really happy".
There's a noticeable difference between ABC / Struts

Originally Posted by ctravis595
conversion update:
conversion is complete, factory hydraulic struts were removed and the strutmasters struts fit in snugly. abc system was topped up after i plugged the ends of each hydraulic line, also changed out the abc filter and the power steering filter for a preventative measure.

you never really realize how heavy this car is until you take off the active suspension. the car tilts in turns and during accel/braking like any other car over 4000 pounds but you dont know it with the abc. considering i spent 1400 on the strutmasters kit as opposed to the thousands i would have invested on fixing and maintaining the abc suspension i think it might be worth it though

car does not handle the same at high speeds as it did when it was lowered with abc but i think its partially because of the amount of air thats getting underneath the car as opposed to before. no rubbing in the front even with slamming on the brakes to avoid a ticket at 130 mph. i think the combination of the sheer weight of this car and the caliber of the struts/springs keep it handling well even without the sway bars. at first i missed the abc suspension and being completely flat through sharp/fast turns but these strutmasters struts (bilstien i believe) still keep the car relatively flat without sacrificing ride quality
https://mbworld.org/forums/cl-class-...ml#post5308121
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Sounds like a positive review to me. Sure, not as flat as ABC but still good and beats the hell out of constantly throwing money at the ABC system. You could actually drive the car for a few hundred thousand miles without spending a fortune maintaining the suspension.

That's my only real beef with the 215CL. The suspension is magnificient and total crap at the same time. It was a love hate relationship.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 05:30 AM
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UPDATE:

Purchased a pump from FCP Euro last week, express international shipping.
Dad installed it today and car is levelling itself again.
Seems to be working well.

Lingering issues now.

- ABC light still on in dashboard (Guess it needs a code reset. Is there an easy way to do this? or do you need an OBD cable + software)
- driver door does not pull itself shut or close the window gap when you soft close.
door Wiring?
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You will need the factory workshop diagnostic system (STAR DAS) to dump and reset the ABC code. No malfunction message should be present as long as the system is functioning within parameters. This leads me to believe there is more afoul in your ABC system.

The soft close door problem is more likely as result of either a bad door switch, the PSE pump circuit disabling itself or a blown door lock pneumatic unit.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by awiner
This leads me to believe there is more afoul in your ABC system..
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Pop says they lost a lot of abc oil after a big leak during the pump replacement that he needs to add back. Perhaps this is a cause.
We will take it to a mechanic who can read the code and find out

Regarding door im not sure, they supposedly were working fine until the car battery was disconnected for 7 days while repairing the ABC

So i would propose a simpler problem like ECU/blown fuse/wiring. Will have to find out.

Il keep updatinf
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DO NOT, repeat DO NOT turn the car on with low ABC fluid. You run the risk of cavitation in the pump and that will make your new pump a new bad pump.

Low fluid will throw a malfunction as system pressure drops too low.

Also, did he pressurize the ABC reservoir prior to starting the engine? If not, the pump generally doesn't get the proper priming which leads to cavitation as well.

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Originally Posted by fatjoe
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Pop says they lost a lot of abc oil after a big leak during the pump replacement that he needs to add back. Perhaps this is a cause.
We will take it to a mechanic who can read the code and find out
In the words of Homer Simpson......DOH!!!! I really hope this is not the case. You may have ruined your new pump in the first 30 seconds.
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