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Old 03-24-2017, 09:03 AM
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Lightbulb Keyless go card to keyless go key conversion

So here, the final last step before creating a DY

I replaced the trunk keyless go module with a A230 545 12 32
I had Mercedes make me a key A230 766 03 06 9999 (black keyless go key)

they keys show up in DAS on track 5

the issue I have now is that the key only opens the car by infra red
and starts the car by insert

why ? easy !
I totally omit that the USA, Japanese and Rest of the world frequencies are different for these 3 territories
both, RF remote buttons and Keyless Go frequencies

how to solve this ? simple:

I need to find out what switches the frequencies ....

it is not module hardware dependent i guessed, because there is no difference on ANY numbers on the modules between USA and German bought

so is it firmware dependent ?
some DAS setting dependent ?
a mudule I missed dependent ?

So I guess that not many can help me but you never know

but.. here the Mercedes dealers are really ********s, they won't help !

If any of you could go to a nice and clever dealer you know and ask that question for me

So, "what switches the IR and Keyless Go frequency from USA to REST OF THE WORLD"

after this I'll make a DY explaining step by step how to convert and program with DAS

thx !
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seems to be key dependent


searching more
help welcome
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Yeah the parts are internally different, there's not a way to "switch" it, without changing jumpers inside. The parts are ordered for the correct region supposedly and come with the right frequency.

Is your car 315 or 433 originally?
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433 (
and I have a USA key
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found a specialist in the UK who can modify hardware to 433mhz

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Nice. I still want to figure out how to program the card for my car. It came with no cards, I bought one, it should program but it won't learn it no matter what I try.
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Nice. I still want to figure out how to program the card for my car. It came with no cards, I bought one, it should program but it won't learn it no matter what I try.
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when you say "I bought one"

is that from mercedes and vin programmed ?


if yes then its easy with DAS

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Originally Posted by pmercury View Post
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when you say "I bought one"

is that from mercedes and vin programmed ?


if yes then its easy with DAS

let me know
A used one off ebay. From what I've read the cards can be assigned to another keyless go module, not vin locked like the keys.

The cards show as no longer available in the MB parts system when I checked.
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ok then
but don't forget, you need a USA 331mhz card for a USA vehicule
and a Europeen 443mhz card for a europeen vehicule

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^^^ Tried all of that. Doesn't seem to work for me. I guess it could be a different card but it came from the US, I'll verify though. I haven't tried the 30-90 minute thing, at least not strictly, I've had the car sitting inside with the key out/card inside, push the button, wait 30min, nothing happened.
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should find a locksmith who can scan your card and see if it is 315 or 443 or could be Japanese
or I have been sitting on my card and it doesn't work anymore either, but lights on card work
but for me, if the cards go in rail 3 and 4, then they must be vin coded like a key, at least, that would be logical no ?
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I have tested the key with SDS and the car triggers it by both doors and the trunk, so I think it's the right freq and works.

I don't know, I thought so too but my shop foreman has been with benz since the late 90's, is familiar with the system and seems to think they should program easily. Most of the techs there now have no clue about the older cars and look at the card like it's some sort of alien device.
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my 331 key on my 433 car too
it triggers but wrong frequency

a locksmith has a scanner to find frequency
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Ok
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the specialist in the UK converted my key to europeen frequency
what he did is to gain time, he soldered the coded chip on the same, but europeen key
that did the job

from there you go in DAS and assign the keyless go track (most commun when adding a key is keytrack 5)
so keyless go track 1 or 2, set it to 5

the job is done !

now you have keyless go in your key !
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So to resume

get a upgraded second hand keyless go module on ebay: A230 545 12 32

force MB to order a upgraded key:

for USA ONLY A230 766 03 06 9999 (black keyless go key)
for europe : ???????????? black keyless go key (I will get the key order number next week, the guy is on a trip again)


replace the trunk keyless go module with the upgraded one
in DAS set the keyless go track 1 or 2 to your keyless go track (probably 5)

done !
enjoy !

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In DAS:

Body > KG
Initial setup > F2 > F2
you will see the assigned keyless go key 1 & 2 > F2 > F2
YES
Assign keyless Go Key 1 > F2
here, fill in 5 (most off the time a added key is set to 5, if not 6 or higher)
F3 > F3 > F3 > F2

it doesn't matter if you use slot 1 or two, but if you make 2 keys, use 5 for keyless go 1 and 6 for keyless go 2 (or whatever your keys have been assigned too

You can verify your keytrack by inserting the key and in EZS > drive authorization
then read 038 Current key or key track

done

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corrected the article, sorry but copy and paste went wrong. it's all fine now
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great and very interessting job.
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