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Maserati Gransport (2004-2007)
0-100 4.8 secs
4.2 litre v8
top speed 180mph
Kerb Weight (kg) 1680
Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 2060
power 400hp 451Nm
price 25-30k uk pounds depending on mileage
seems to be appreciating in value due to low production numbers
mercedes w216 CL63 amg (2007-2010)
6.2 litre v8
Power 525 bhp 630Nm
0-100 4.6 secs
Kerb Weight (kg) 2085
Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 2510
Top speed 155mph limited
price 22-29 k uk pounds depending on miles
both cars have 4.2-4.4 out of 5 stars owner reviews on autotrader.co.uk
its difficult to choose which car to buy. Any help on pros and cons of each car would be helpful. Pictures are of
the two cars currently for sale that I am deciding between.
Personally I don't find either model attractive. The pre-face lift W216 is to bloated with the odd looking front fenders and the Maserati looks very 90's. If you wanted something that would give you both performance and looks, go for an Aston Martin DB9, the last generation 09-16.
Personally I don't find either model attractive. The pre-face lift W216 is to bloated with the odd looking front fenders and the Maserati looks very 90's. If you wanted something that would give you both performance and looks, go for an Aston Martin DB9, the last generation 09-16.
Here's a comparison of all 3 cars currently for sale. These pictures are of the actual cars I can currently buy on the market. The 2009 db9 is double the price of the cl63 and also double the price of the maserati gransport red.
With out a doubt the DB9 should be your first choice of the three. If you CAN find a CL550 of CL500 in the UK with the facelift, buy it! Try and find one that is stock and hasn't been modified. I find anytime you see one modified, such as the wheels or body cladding, they usually have been run hard. You can expect to have a lot of issues, that will cost you even more money, than a new better looking car. The first two just look dated.
I did go back and look at the cars your looking at. The Maserati is in CA, the Mercedes is in Europe, and the Aston Martin is at Redline in Glendale.
With out a doubt the DB9 should be your first choice of the three. If you CAN find a CL550 of CL500 in the UK with the facelift, buy it! Try and find one that is stock and hasn't been modified. I find anytime you see one modified, such as the wheels or body cladding, they usually have been run hard. You can expect to have a lot of issues, that will cost you even more money, than a new better looking car. The first two just look dated.
I did go back and look at the cars your looking at. The Maserati is in CA, the Mercedes is in Europe, and the Aston Martin is at Redline in Glendale.
Not looking for a CL550, not special enough. What is the major difference between the 2011 and 2007 in terms of looks, is it just the led day time running lights? I know v8 biturbo vs 6.2 v8 na. 2011 cl63 amg and 2007 cl63 amg pictured and red maserati too. The 2009 aston martin db9 does not feel like its worth almost double the price of these cars and at that price point 59-60k gbp lamborghini gallardo is better.
Heres links to the actual cars 2011 cl63 with amg performance pack is 10k gbp more than 2007 cl63 amg.
What is the difference between the 07-10 vs 11-14 EVERYTHING!!!!! Can't compare an apple to an orange. I didn't mention a 600 or 65 because I didn't think you wanted to spend that kind of money. That black 63 that you showed me is a great deal and the one you should go with. It looks more modern and not as dated as the pre face lifted cars, and gives you leaps and bounds more technology also the 07 has an MB tex and leather interior where the 11 has full leather interior. Buy that black 2011 CL63 and be done. Trust me you will be better off in the long run, have a more exclusive rarer car and possibly be able to get an extended warranty.
What is the difference between the 07-10 vs 11-14 EVERYTHING!!!!! Can't compare an apple to an orange. I didn't mention a 600 or 65 because I didn't think you wanted to spend that kind of money. That black 63 that you showed me is a great deal and the one you should go with. It looks more modern and not as dated as the pre face lifted cars, and gives you leaps and bounds more technology also the 07 has an MB tex and leather interior where the 11 has full leather interior. Buy that black 2011 CL63 and be done. Trust me you will be better off in the long run, have a more exclusive rarer car and possibly be able to get an extended warranty.
Why buy the CL600 with amg body kit and 5.5 twin turbo v12?
Its alot cheaper 2nd hand than CL63 has a v12 twin turbo but no amg tuning and brakes which are better for the track. I am going to go with the 2007 cl63 I think.
These CL600s have dropped alot more in value than the CL63 amgs and both were the same price new. This is the case for 07-10 and 11-14, is it just because no amg badge.
They don't make a 600 with AMG body cladding and the 63 is much cheaper than a 600, you have it backwards. The 63 brings about 7-10k less than a 600. At least here in the US. Which is the larger market for the higher prices 600.
Also, the 63 with every option was always cheaper than a designo 600.
It's just like the Bentley GT cost more and is worth more than its counter part V8.
They don't make a 600 with AMG body cladding and the 63 is much cheaper than a 600, you have it backwards. The 63 brings about 7-10k less than a 600. At least here in the US. Which is the larger market for the higher prices 600.
I am looking at the prices in Europe and the CL600 is cheaper than the CL63 by alot of margin in 07-10 and was wondering why that was. I believe you could order the amg appearance package with the CL600 which gave you the amg body kit, hence one is for sale here in the uk with it on. Looking at this informative article http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Merc...d/CL_C216.html the CL600 was 106,000 gbp and cl63 was 105,000 gbp.
Not in the US. They never offered a CL 600 from 07-14 with an AMG appearance package I don't think they did it where you live either. I am thinking it was done after the fact. Also, keep in mind miles and color can make or break the value of a particular car. Now from 2011-2014 only 55 CL 600 were built as the CL 63 were built like it was a C Class over 5,600 were built for the US market. The 600 and the 65 were the least built cars from 11-14 of any Mercedes and the 65 was a customer order only car. At least for the US market. So, it stands to reason the 600 is worth more money than a 63. Most 63's have MB tex interiors with only leather seating, door arm rest and center arm rest being leather, that is unless the full leather option was ordered. Also, everything was an additional option on the 63, where it was all standard on a 600, except for the Desgino interior, Designo paint, 20" wheels, illuminated door sills, split view screen and the granite option (which replaced the wood in the center stack). My car cost 195K plus 2,300 gas guzzler tax. You couldn't get a 63 up to that price. I used my car as Designo Graphite Gray (which brings the highest price) and black brings 400.00 less. and the brighter colors bring even less. I built the 2014 CL63 to the same spec as my 600 and here are the values. Each with 5,000 miles, each with the same options, each with the same color. As you can see the 63 here in the states is a common car. I have a 1 0f 1 out of 55 built from 11-14 for the US market. I will not be parting with mine anytime soon. I just noticed you are comparing a 2006 to a 2007. You can compare one year to the next. Also, your model year starts one year ahead of ours and ends one year before ours. I have a 2006 CL 600 and they are the W215 version, here in the states. We didn't get the W216 until Sept of 2006 for the new odd looking model. The pre-face lifted cars bring almost nothing here in the states. Whether it be S class or a CL. Everyone wants the upgraded engine of the 2011-13 S Class and the 2011 -14 CL Class. The pre face lifted cars are give now as cheap as the cheapest Lexus.
I saw that but you need to find a post facelift CL 600 and a post lift CL 63 with same miles and colors to compare and then see. Your market is much different. High colors here bring down the value (which I prefer color to blah dark colors and silver and white) We have a 550 and you have a 500. It's hard to compare your market to ours. I don't think you have many newer 600's and 65's but lots of 500's and 63's. I really wish I had kept my order for the Mystic red designo 65 with mystic red leather and granite but I bought the Bentley and have horrible regrets. I feel very lucky to have my CL 600 but wish they had made atleast one so I could buy it from someone. It wasn't built so you can't have what was never built.
The CL600 is a rarer car than the CL63 AMG. In Europe its showing just $1000 GBP difference between the CL600 and CL63 AMG base price new.
According to the article in my previous reply. I think these CL's are exceptional cars and huge respect man for buying a 2014 in their final year of production. You are right its very difficult to find face lift CL600, there are however facelift CL65s http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...code=p&adPos=7
Yeah different markets for sure. Here they are totally opposite. Personally I just cant stomach the preface lifted cars. To me and this is just my opinion, they look like they are so over bloated and have such a pinched *** and the front fenders are cartoonish. Where the later style was deflated, all those cuts in the bumpers were eliminated and the hood deflated. The pontoon fenders were removed and finally the electronics and engine were upgraded. Not to mention the 63 here unless ordered was Airmatic not full ABC like on the 600 and 65. I don't know why they have to spend more money making different cars when they don't have to. One for all and all for one. Only thing that should be different is LH and RH drive. You guys have different options than we do. Also, when you go on YouTube, the only people that are drag racing or tuning these cars are mostly EU not the US. You guys love modifications. Not a bad thing just not my thing.
With the CL65 you never ordered their is one option. You could buy a used CL65 get it painted Mystic red and buy replacement mystic red leather and granite interior from Mercedes. Mercedes will always have parts for these cars even though they are out of production.
I looked into it the interior would be 20k plus repainted would be another 12k as the car must be totally disassembled. The car is worth almost half of what I paid. I would never throw good money after bad. Not a smart move. Thanks though. Maybe if I had bought the car used and got it 20k under wholesale I would consider it but not a 5k mile all original car that I paid full price for. Good thinking though.
I was looking at 2011-2012 CL550 or 2008-2009 CL63. I bought the 63 and I absolutely love the car. I have, afterwards, driven 2012 CL550 and 2011 CL600, both with facelift. I found out that AMG is different to both, feels more special, handles a lot better, it is sportier, louder, gives you sportier experience. Would I trade my CL63 pre-face to a facelift non-AMG model? Never. The 550 is just too ordinary, the 600 to me is just the 550 with the bigger engine that is only about torque, otherwise very quiet, relatively boring engine (sure it is very fast, but the way, it delivers power, is very different to an AMG engine).
I also find quite funny the fact, that some of my friends, who bought facelift CL's (non-AMG), liked my car a lot more than theirs. In case of equipment and technology, pre-face and facelift have some differences, but you won't notice during your every day life. Some functions like Split View and other are available in 2009+ prefacelift CL63.
So, my advice would be go for a facelift 63 AMG with 5.5 Bi-Turbo and if that is too expensive, go for the 6.2 N/A 63 pre-facelift.
Speaking of Maserati, forget about it, it is not even close - interior, dynamics, quality.
They don't make a 600 with AMG body cladding and the 63 is much cheaper than a 600, you have it backwards. The 63 brings about 7-10k less than a 600. At least here in the US. Which is the larger market for the higher prices 600.
This is interesting,
because here in Europe (Germany), the 600 is cheaper than 63 by relatively noticeable amount of money. I can buy 600 from 2007 for about 10k USD less than CL63 from 2007. Nobody wants the 600 here. Also, we don't get CL63 without ABC, I have never heard or seen anyone with 63 and Airmatic. I have, on the other hand, seen CL600 with airmatic and a lot smaller brakes compared to an AMG.
Sorry that I am so annoying. Here in the states the CL63 is now going for much less money in any year than the 600. IN fact KBB just bumper my cars price up per options and color 4K since the last cycle. I guess they realize at auction they were only 55 made in total from 11-14. So, to find one is very rare. Looks are subjective. I personally wouldn't take a pre-facelifted car even if given to me in any form. Its not that I'm knocking the car it's just my preference. There are major mechanical differences and suspension differences here in the states and NO 600 was ever made with AIRMATIC. Please consult MB if you question that.
Just thought Id share a little something that I exchanged my Old man Bentley for last month. So now I have a Super luxury car that is had been tuned and a Super Sport luxury that has been Super tuned.
I was looking at 2011-2012 CL550 or 2008-2009 CL63. I bought the 63 and I absolutely love the car. I have, afterwards, driven 2012 CL550 and 2011 CL600, both with facelift. I found out that AMG is different to both, feels more special, handles a lot better, it is sportier, louder, gives you sportier experience. Would I trade my CL63 pre-face to a facelift non-AMG model? Never. The 550 is just too ordinary, the 600 to me is just the 550 with the bigger engine that is only about torque, otherwise very quiet, relatively boring engine (sure it is very fast, but the way, it delivers power, is very different to an AMG engine).
I also find quite funny the fact, that some of my friends, who bought facelift CL's (non-AMG), liked my car a lot more than theirs. In case of equipment and technology, pre-face and facelift have some differences, but you won't notice during your every day life. Some functions like Split View and other are available in 2009+ prefacelift CL63.
So, my advice would be go for a facelift 63 AMG with 5.5 Bi-Turbo and if that is too expensive, go for the 6.2 N/A 63 pre-facelift.
Speaking of Maserati, forget about it, it is not even close - interior, dynamics, quality.
Wow thats a stunning looking CL63 amg in tanzanite blue. My GL500 (GL550) is the same colour its beautiful colour but hard to find in CL. I like the preface lift because of the 6.3 and think it looks good. My aim is to buy a facelift CL63 in January next year when I move to London from Melbourne. I am originally born in London. In January, If I can buy the 2011 black CL63 with performance pack for 38,000 gbp I am pretty happy with that.
Yes, I actually like the Designo Mystic Blue. I didn't think I did but it has grown on me. You mentioned there was no difference between the 500/550 but a 550 is nothing even close to a 600. The 600 has a fully active hydraulic suspension, the interior has a different leather and sew pattern, Alcontera headliner that is sewn to match the seats, full leather interior through out, RWD and torque to beat the band. The CL500/550 has MB Tex interior except for seat surfaces, arm rest and steering wheel. The headliner is cloth the suspension is Airmatic/4matic on 11-14 models (10-13 in EU). The base is about 60K US dollars less before adding options. So, there is a massive difference in the two cars. The 63 unless ordered with a Designo interior, also has MB Tex interior except for the afore mentioned. These things to me are important. Some people could careless. I like more refinement and distinction. Again, it's personal preference. I am not judging. I am just saying, Id rather have a facelifted car over a non face lifted car and a 600 over a 550 or 63, that's all. My car may be boaring to some but to me it perfect (except Id rather have it in Designo Mystic Red)
Thanks but you don't know s**t about beans. No, the CL63 only comes with full leather if you order the option or designo. So, next time do your research. As for your opinion, that I have no issues with. I had the 189k and it was the only one I could get.
I was looking at 2011-2012 CL550 or 2008-2009 CL63. I bought the 63 and I absolutely love the car. I have, afterwards, driven 2012 CL550 and 2011 CL600, both with facelift. I found out that AMG is different to both, feels more special, handles a lot better, it is sportier, louder, gives you sportier experience. Would I trade my CL63 pre-face to a facelift non-AMG model? Never. The 550 is just too ordinary, the 600 to me is just the 550 with the bigger engine that is only about torque, otherwise very quiet, relatively boring engine (sure it is very fast, but the way, it delivers power, is very different to an AMG engine).
I also find quite funny the fact, that some of my friends, who bought facelift CL's (non-AMG), liked my car a lot more than theirs. In case of equipment and technology, pre-face and facelift have some differences, but you won't notice during your every day life. Some functions like Split View and other are available in 2009+ prefacelift CL63.
So, my advice would be go for a facelift 63 AMG with 5.5 Bi-Turbo and if that is too expensive, go for the 6.2 N/A 63 pre-facelift.
Speaking of Maserati, forget about it, it is not even close - interior, dynamics, quality.
Wow...awesome colour...anyway...i had EXACTELY the same problem when I had to choose between a CL500 biturbo facelift and the CL63 AMG 2008...in the and the AMG was the way to go for me...the facelift just looked to "ordinary" and did not inspired me in any way...as the power goes...in spring I will go with the Weistec Supercharger...end of the story... Take care and choose with the heart...
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