New '08 CL65 for 12% off MSRP?
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New '08 CL65 for 12% off MSRP?
See ebay listing.....Catena in NYC region has blk/blk, new '08 CL65 for buy-it-now price of $175K.....if true, 12% (or greater) disct smells fairly desperate when one of largest MB dealers in one of world's 2-3 wealthiest urban regions can't sell new, blk/blk 65s at/near MSRP....
Perhaps a datapoint of high-end consumer recession? Or is the codgerly, tacky quilted leather and wood steering wheel a non-starter for <75yo buyers and/or those w/semi-decent taste?....Or is this copy's mysterious lack of std Distronic/BrakeAssist (and presence of archaic, low-rent Parktronic "bulletholes") forcing greater disctg???
Makes scenario of '08 CL65 w/10-15K mis trading in for $100K in Fall08 seem rather plausible....if new 65s need >12% discts to sell, imagine the discts that a used 65 buyer will expect....
Given the travails of the real estate mkt, perhaps some developers in FL, etc should bundle a free new CL65 w/purchase of one of their unwanted houses/condos....help clear the mkt of both unwanted new 65s and real estate....
Perhaps a datapoint of high-end consumer recession? Or is the codgerly, tacky quilted leather and wood steering wheel a non-starter for <75yo buyers and/or those w/semi-decent taste?....Or is this copy's mysterious lack of std Distronic/BrakeAssist (and presence of archaic, low-rent Parktronic "bulletholes") forcing greater disctg???
Makes scenario of '08 CL65 w/10-15K mis trading in for $100K in Fall08 seem rather plausible....if new 65s need >12% discts to sell, imagine the discts that a used 65 buyer will expect....
Given the travails of the real estate mkt, perhaps some developers in FL, etc should bundle a free new CL65 w/purchase of one of their unwanted houses/condos....help clear the mkt of both unwanted new 65s and real estate....
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Very interesting......... 
But I am also glad they are dropping really fast in value because that makes these cars very affordable to a large new market within just a year or so of first sale date
But I am also glad they are dropping really fast in value because that makes these cars very affordable to a large new market within just a year or so of first sale date
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I think the economy has the most to do with it. Those other issues (distronic and parking sensors) are either negotiating points or really minor annoyances. Apparently, the interest in the car is not there at this point. I think from the cars standpoint (aside from the economy) the biggest detraction to the W216 CL65 is the carry-over powertrain. Not that I don't love the engine....but if I was going to drop $200K on a totally new model....I would want the powertrain to be an evolution over the last. Instead, the car weighs more with an admittedly better chasis. However, that by itself will not get the buyers to rush into the dealership.
Can you imagine Ferrari carrying over an engine from the predecessor model to the new model? No...Ferrari is always innovating and perfecting their technology in functional design, chasis, transmissions, engines and even quality of interiors. I think if MB is going to target the same market they should use the same tactics (the potential CL65 buyer is not comparing a Ferrari for this purchase, but they probably own one and respond well to the same ethos).
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I think the economy has the most to do with it. Those other issues (distronic and parking sensors) are either negotiating points or really minor annoyances. Apparently, the interest in the car is not there at this point. I think from the cars standpoint (aside from the economy) the biggest detraction to the W216 CL65 is the carry-over powertrain. Not that I don't love the engine....but if I was going to drop $200K on a totally new model....I would want the powertrain to be an evolution over the last. Instead, the car weighs more with an admittedly better chasis. However, that by itself will not get the buyers to rush into the dealership.
Can you imagine Ferrari carrying over an engine from the predecessor model to the new model? No...Ferrari is always innovating and perfecting their technology in functional design, chasis, transmissions, engines and even quality of interiors. I think if MB is going to target the same market they should use the same tactics (the potential CL65 buyer is not comparing a Ferrari for this purchase, but they probably own one and respond well to the same ethos).
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CL63's for sale
Last Sunday's Boston Globe listed 8 CL63's for sale at Herb Chambers, one of several MB dealers in the area.
I'm not sure that they have sold any since I bought mine in September!
I'm not sure that they have sold any since I bought mine in September!
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Your local Naperville dealer is also pretty aggressive too.
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As of 10 AM of Jan 11 I didn't see the Catena CL65 Ebay listing continued. When I saw it yesterday I was struck by the lack of Distronics Plus on this vehicle, hence the Park Assist via sensors on the bumpers. This was what WSH originally reported and it is somewhat strange to see it missing. There were no additional photos or options information on this particular car at the Ebay auction site. We have been told that all MY08 CL65 came loaded with all options as standard equipment. Edmunds says that only heated wheel an Ipod are options. MBUSA has no 'built your own' for the model. I assumed the '08 CL65 would be similar to '07/'08 S600 and the '08 S65, with all options as standard. Does anyone know why this car didn't have these features as standard? Is it a very early '08 that did not benefitted from the new policy of having all options as 'standard'? If so, could the list price been much less than the expected $198K and the reduction to $175K not as great? Z356
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As of 10 AM of Jan 11 I didn't see the Catena CL65 Ebay listing continued. When I saw it yesterday I was struck by the lack of Distronics Plus on this vehicle, hence the Park Assist via sensors on the bumpers. This was what WSH originally reported and it is somewhat strange to see it missing. There were no additional photos or options information on this particular car at the Ebay auction site. We have been told that all MY08 CL65 came loaded with all options as standard equipment. Edmunds says that only heated wheel an Ipod are options. MBUSA has no 'built your own' for the model. I assumed the '08 CL65 would be similar to '07/'08 S600 and the '08 S65, with all options as standard. Does anyone know why this car didn't have these features as standard? Is it a very early '08 that did not benefitted from the new policy of having all options as 'standard'? If so, could the list price been much less than the expected $198K and the reduction to $175K not as great? Z356
I recall from earlier threads that it happened before (i.e. on the previous CL-model) that standard-features - in that particular case, the ventilated seats, weren't included. It was some sort of 'pre-production' car. MB sells those cars as well but they have to indicate the fact that it's a pre-production model. Other CL65s I've seen so far do have Distronic as a standard feature so I guess this must be an early production exemption..
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My guess would be that it was some kind of 'launch edition' of the new body CL65. The low price could have more reasons: First, the missing features itself and second, the time the dealer is already trying to sell this car. I assume the dealer has this car on his lot for quite a while - if not, he might try to sell it at MSRP or only slightly below.
I recall from earlier threads that it happened before (i.e. on the previous CL-model) that standard-features - in that particular case, the ventilated seats, weren't included. It was some sort of 'pre-production' car. MB sells those cars as well but they have to indicate the fact that it's a pre-production model. Other CL65s I've seen so far do have Distronic as a standard feature so I guess this must be an early production exemption..
I recall from earlier threads that it happened before (i.e. on the previous CL-model) that standard-features - in that particular case, the ventilated seats, weren't included. It was some sort of 'pre-production' car. MB sells those cars as well but they have to indicate the fact that it's a pre-production model. Other CL65s I've seen so far do have Distronic as a standard feature so I guess this must be an early production exemption..
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Oh no, not again. The story you are referring to was originated from that same dealership where someone bought a pre-production CL and got a run-around about it. Claims they sold him a car where the VIN didn't match the paperwork. I'd stay totally away from this dealership from what I've been reading. Or at least take a lawyer with you to go over every step of the transaction.
Something tells me that this is NOT a coincidence..
Since the listing disappeared, I'm not sure if they mentioned the lack of Distronic and the strange thing about the Parktronic-holes.
I can only agree to stay away from this dealership - especially when purchasing a 65.
Last edited by FloridaE55; Jan 11, 2008 at 08:24 PM.
