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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:37 AM
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Supercharger bogging down after hard runs

Hi folks,

I wanted to see if anyone of you guys has experienced your supercharger to bog down/lip mood after a couple of hard runs.

I have an 03 CL55 with around 71K miles on it. I have noticed that after a long hard sprint, the supercharger feels like it is not engaging, power is not all there. After waiting 1 to 3 minutes it would be back up again.
I spoke to a couple of other AMG 55 owners and it might be a couple of things that may cause the SC to bog down or go limp mood.

1. temp senor needs to be changed (when sensing a lot hit for the SC, it will not engage the SC to prevent it from breaking) I have changed the temp senor... still bogging down/limp mood

2. Intercooler (might to go bigger or the pump for the intercooler needs to be change since it is not working well enough to keep it cool)

Any input would be helpful.

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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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i had the same problem,it's the intercooler pump for sure ,the warranty replaced it for me,it cost around $800
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by palicl55
i had the same problem,it's the intercooler pump for sure ,the warranty replaced it for me,it cost around $800
Thanks... I just found out this afternoon regarding the pump. I had my buddy in Southbay Autohaus pull up codes and found out the pump was not working.
I did some research and found some info from another forum. The pump that some of the 55 owners are using is called Johnson CM30. I will have my buddy look into it some more and hope by next week will have a new pump put in.

Thanks for the reply.
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Let me know how the Johnson works out for ya and how much, I hear it is the way to go, was thinking about doing it for preventative medicine.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 02:37 AM
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Let me know how the Johnson works out for ya and how much, I hear it is the way to go, was thinking about doing it for preventative medicine.
Will do, I will let you know if I get it in this week. Looks like busy schedule for me. But, I will update you once its in.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by palicl55
i had the same problem,it's the intercooler pump for sure ,the warranty replaced it for me,it cost around $800
$800 for the IC Pump? WHOA! No way man!
The pump costs $100 (and thats for the Johnson CM30 which is an UPGRADE) and the install is not all that hard. $300 max for the whole job...
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Raff
Thanks... I just found out this afternoon regarding the pump. I had my buddy in Southbay Autohaus pull up codes and found out the pump was not working.
I did some research and found some info from another forum. The pump that some of the 55 owners are using is called Johnson CM30. I will have my buddy look into it some more and hope by next week will have a new pump put in.

Thanks for the reply.
What codes did it throw? I was under the impression this did not throw any codes when it fails which is why people have such a hard time getting dealerships to replace these.

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$800 for the IC Pump? WHOA! No way man!
The pump costs $100 (and thats for the Johnson CM30 which is an UPGRADE) and the install is not all that hard. $300 max for the whole job...
The stealership charges around $250.00 for the pump plus installation.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Hey guys, do you know where I can locate the intercooler pump in my car and what does it look like? I'm having some problems to locate it. Thanks
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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For all the 55K engines, what is the correct volt to use when getting the Johnson CM30,
12V or 24V ??

Thanks
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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better check the intercooler pump...
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by denice25
better check the intercooler pump...
Yea, its the intercooler pump.

I am waiting for the Johnson CM30 pump to come in next week and it will be installed Heyvon Motors, this is suppose to be an up grade of the current pumps that the 55's have. I will keep you guys up dated.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Raff,

I see on the site for Johnson that there is the 12V and 24V, which one is for the 55K?
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Do you guys know where I can get the Johnson CM30 Intercooler pump in the US ?
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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apeusa has the cm30 for 149$ shipped. i would like to add if you dont upgrade the heat exchanger then none of these pumps will help cool the s/c. the oem h/e is so small and ineffective. try the crossfire forum for the woody supercooler or needswings.com for their h/e. also let has a better version of a h/e
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by benzino118
Raff,

I see on the site for Johnson that there is the 12V and 24V, which one is for the 55K?
Hey,

Just an update... I just got the Johnson CM30 in today and it was the 12V one. I had it installed by Serge over at Hyevon Motors in Westminister Ca. Most of the 55 guys over their get this upgrade. I am really happy with the out come. No more limp mode for the CL55. One pull after the other was good, even in the 83 degree weather we have here right now.
Serge is the man to go to when it comes down to having the more power for your car. I will have pics of the pump and stock pump when I download it from my phone.
He had tested the car with the current set up and he says it pulls pretty well, but the tuning could be better. THEN he takes me into one of the other cars (which was a CLS55) he has tuned along with his version of custom pulley system, front mount intercooler, headers, and ECU tuned...... This car was scary fast... traction control was going crazy with the power that this car was putting down.
Results are.... I am happy with the pump working like a champ... but sad in the same time knowing I can pull more power out of the car... back to the retuning drawing board.
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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How much did the whole package cost, pump, install, etc?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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How much did the whole package cost, pump, install, etc?
Cost was around $250.
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