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Old 10-07-2011, 02:41 PM
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If you could to help clarify things, please measure IAT's and boost. It will be the true indicator of the success of the pump if that was the problem. Also to play fair compare to outside air temps as well from when it was first tested, I know for me in NY things have cooled down alot in the last 2-3 weeks. You haven't stated if the you have any new found power at lower speeds such as 40 mph wheel spin....If you find yourself still struggling to spin the tires then you are still leaving alot on the table. Good luck with your calculations. In the mean time put the car in 2nd at around 45 mph let it coast down to about 42mph (the rpm's should be at a sweet spot) if you punch it you should have some blinking triangle action!! (thats what I would do)...Have fun!!!
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i totally agree i really want to get the temps off the mercedes computer.. hopefully soon i will..

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I have attached a datalog from awhile ago starting in second gear and going most of the way through third. You will notice the boost is around 17-18PSI at low RPM and tapers off to 12 to 14 at 5000 plus RPM. This is a stock 2006 S65.

Please note it was about 105 degrees outside during this run so the airteps are pretty warm. It was taken using the Torque App with a Bluetooth OBDII adapter.
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youre down on boost big time. Have you replaced your intercooler pump? If ecu senses high IAT temps it will bleed boost in an effort to keep temps down.
What do you know about V12 Biturbos??? Aren't you an expert now on VW's?

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Old 10-11-2011, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Flight Test
I have attached a datalog from awhile ago starting in second gear and going most of the way through third. You will notice the boost is around 17-18PSI at low RPM and tapers off to 12 to 14 at 5000 plus RPM. This is a stock 2006 S65.

Please note it was about 105 degrees outside during this run so the airteps are pretty warm. It was taken using the Torque App with a Bluetooth OBDII adapter.

my car runs at about 14-15 psi and spikes 16- maybe 17 psi MAX so i am 2-3 psi off then your 65, but since i have a ecu tune im sure i should boost more then 20 psi...
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as i mentioned allready... for $160 i will be sending my coil rail and control driver to this shop who repairs and checks if the coil rail is bad or good.... so lets see if the dealer sold me a BAD coil
Old 10-11-2011, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
What do you know about V12 Biturbos??? Aren't you an expert now on VW's?

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dont you have a chevy to wreck?
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dont you have a chevy to wreck?


That was pretty good... now go home and get your shine box....

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Old 10-12-2011, 08:58 PM
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That was pretty good... now go home and get your shine box....

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what are you guys talking about...i appriciate everyones advice even if they do not own or work on mercedes
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i will be shipping my coil, control driver and throttle body to 4mercedes.com this weekend so i will have my car out of use for a few days intill my parts come back in i hope hope my misfire gets resolved
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what are you guys talking about...i appriciate everyones advice even if they do not own or work on mercedes
We are just messing with each other...some inside jokes...

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We are just messing with each other...some inside jokes...

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sounds good with me
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We are just messing with each other...some inside jokes...

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i have no clue who you are, stop polluting this thread please. FYI this thread is about "CL65 power and performance" Im not sure youre familiar with that
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i have no clue who you are, stop polluting this thread please. FYI this thread is about "CL65 power and performance" Im not sure youre familiar with that
Sorry...I must have mistaken you for someone who had a fast car...

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Old 10-16-2011, 03:23 AM
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my car is down for 1-2 weeks, it kind blows not driving my car for that long.. i sent my coil, control driver, and throttle body to
4-mercedes.com for diag
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my car is down for 1-2 weeks, it kind blows not driving my car for that long.. i sent my coil, control driver, and throttle body to
4-mercedes.com for diag
Bummer, but let's hope it works for you, keep us updated.

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Dumb question, but have you performed a boost leak test?
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Originally Posted by Nachtsturm
Dumb question, but have you performed a boost leak test?
Right under the aftercooler on the driver side is a electronic device which I think is the boost controller. And. I took off the vacume line that travels to both turbos. And I hooked a vacume gauge to see any leaks, And I did not see any leaks... Also another way I want to check and that is in the intercooler (charge side) and find out a way to pressurize it to see any leaks. But. I haven't gotten that far, but At that point I would hear a loud sound of lost pressure. If there was that kind of boost leak... I feel like the wastgate is bleeding the boost, and not by loose parts....Any other ideas in finding boost leaks
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I think because of the misfire.. The ecu is bleeding boost with the wastgate.. I don't know guys. I got 14-15 psi of boost. And 17psi max spike. Does that sounds wrong? ( knowing factory max pressure is at 21psi)
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I think because of the misfire.. The ecu is bleeding boost with the wastgate.. I don't know guys. I got 14-15 psi of boost. And 17psi max spike. Does that sounds wrong? ( knowing factory max pressure is at 21psi)

I think 21 psi is a chipped ecu and not stock. I think stock is 14-15 psi.

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I think 21 psi is a chipped ecu and not stock. I think stock is 14-15 psi.

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If 14-15 psi is stock on the cl65. Then I guess I'm not loosing boost.... Maybe the ecu is cutting timing away because of the misfire.. And (based on members on this site ) my HP and TQ is 80hp and 120TQ lower then other tuned cl65....so that is the original issue.... And also I cannot spin tire over 25-30mph, based on everyone saying that the cl65 under 30-40mph is pointless and just spins tire... My car won't even spin tire at 40mph if it was raining.. Here is the specs on my car

STOCK: 489HP
STOCK: 585TQ

TUNE: 514HP
TUNE: 636TQ
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Ok guys. It's been. 3 weeks allready. And this (4-Mercedes.com) place I sent my parts out for repair. Was a bad idea. This shop is really bad and do not recommend them to anyone.. I wish I checked there google-yelp reviews before I sent my parts... I hope this dumb shop will send my parts back...
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Ok guys. It's been. 3 weeks allready. And this (4-Mercedes.com) place I sent my parts out for repair. Was a bad idea. This shop is really bad and do not recommend them to anyone.. I wish I checked there google-yelp reviews before I sent my parts... I hope this dumb shop will send my parts back...
WOW bummer .....

http://www.bbb.org/south-east-florid...rk-fl-92013032

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129...om-beware.html
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So I am in the market now for a coil pack for my cl65. Passénger side. New or used I guess


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